@johnebaker nothing is removed. If something is a part of an update, and later changed/removed in a later update, you can always access the past patched version, no problem. As an example of how it is done, go HERE and scroll down to #7. Listed are updates for VP19 and 18. If someone is have an issue with a current build, they can go back to a previous build, and it's complete. Nothing edited or removed from it. So far for me, each update has been fairly stable so no need to roll back to a previous update. And AC3 is still there with the latest patch Build 550 for VP19 and the last build of VP18.

One thing about Vegas, if you install a new version, it doesn't overwrite the "old" version. I have VP17, 18 and 19 installed. I had 14-19 but uninstalled 14-16 because I don't need them. Next to go is 17.

@CubeAce I "think" the reason for the two forums (Vegas and Magix) is that the software for each of them is different. There used to be a path to upgrade from Vegas Movie Studio to Vegas Pro if you need more "professional" features. Now, there isn't VMS. It's just Vegas Pro/Post. While in Magix (I wish they would get the naming down to just one), MS to VPX, it's an obvious and easy upgrade path.

The Vegas forum is fairly busy with upscale editing questions/needs/answers. VP19 supports BRAW (BlackMagic RAW) and ProRes. The options for customization are overwhelming. One trip to the Preferences can have someone new scratching their heads. There really isn't any "canned" (and it's not a knock) templates and the like in Vegas. But it can use an overhaul for sure of the title editor and if it could "borrow" the Infusion Engine, that would help a lot. Then there is Post (Hitfilm Pro/Vegas Pro).

I've been editing since a/b roll with the Amiga/Toaster. When I went NLE, throughout the years, Vegas was never ever on my list. Butt ugly confusing interface. I could edit in Premiere or anything else.

Can things be learned between the two software? Oh yes. I am not one for reinventing the "wheel", and will use a template if it suites my needs. Also on a technical level, an exchange of ideas would be welcomed. Maybe a shared "Post Your Creations" section where people and post what they are doing, answer "how" questions, and have it critiqued if they like. This was done in Vegas by one of the moderators (Set). After 2:38..just credits... a lot of credits.

@Reyfox

Hi.

While I understand the arguments against combining the forums I think the arguments are pretty weak personally.

The video section has no resemblance to the audio section or the web building section but they are all here. Surely adding a Vegas section would not add much more complexity to the forum as we seem to get half of the new Vegas users ending up here to begin with.

My main point was for the codecs available as you go up the price chain across platforms and maybe a reason why some have disappeared from other products. There seem to be distinct lines now where once there were crossover points between software options.

On the main website if you use a search engine looking for Vegas or Magix there is no easy option from within the sites' own webpages to find the other line of products so it is not easy to see the differences in compatibility. Not taking into account of new users knowing what they need anyway which is always an understandable dilemma for anyone entering Video editing. For people thinking of switching to a new vendor though it could be beneficial as could being able to switch between Vegas and Magix as a cross grade option.

Ray.

@Reyfox, @ericlnz, @CubeAce

Hi

. . . . For a few years now Vegas has been using Windows components for ac3. . . . .

I believe this is for decoding only - the Dolby vs Adobe case had extensive ramifications throughout the software industry, resulting in the withdrawal of the AC3 codec for encoding by many companies, including Microsoft who also dropped the availability of the AC3 encoding being available due to licensing issues.

Does Vegas still use the MainConcept decoder/encoders?

John EB

@CubeAce, ok... I think I understand your request better. I thought that you meant combining this forum (VPX) with Vegas Pro and everything would be in one location. You are thinking of adding another tab for Vegas Pro with all the other Magix products. . In that case, I see nothing wrong with that, but you would have to have it as a "sub" group? There is more than just Vegas Pro. See first screenshot.

@johnebaker the screenshot 2 shows the encoders for rendering.

@Reyfox

Hi.

Yes I would expect it to be sub grouped. Definitely 👍

I think just having everything in one place would benefit everyone and avoid some of the sometimes awkward re-directing and bemused inquirers we get here. Then also those that use both product lines can give more open opinions on each products strengths and weaknesses without feeling disloyal to a given product. They all fall under the same umbrella so to speak, so why not?

I have never visited the web design or music editing sections of this site. I have no interest but I do not resent their presence. Why should I? But what if I suddenly had a need? It's a one stop shop! Or at least a starting point looking at Magix products first.

I personally feel there is some amount of loyalty to each branch of the product lines that sometimes leans to some not overly kind replies (though not necessarily intentional) brought on by frustration of having to constantly deal with people using the wrong forum. It would then be easier for the mods to just place the inquiry into the correct section if people missed the topic headings at the top of the page or individuals to give them a link.

Of course I would expect objections from both sides but any video editing program is just a tool and it would be good to be able to look at all the available alternatives on one site with people who use the programs to give their perspective of the plus and minus points of each.

I feel the same way with the main Magix website with Magix seemingly pushing Vegas more than Movie Studio or VPX. If you do a random internet search I feel one is more likely to land on a page giving information on the Vegas lineup over the MS / VPX pages. Once on those pages it is extremely difficult to find pages with other products on them.

Ray.

I have no "axe" to grind with anyone using any editor. It is their money, their choice. It's a tool. I have several, and I use the tool I think is right for me in the project I am working on. And, a few of of those tools are not found under Magix umbrella.

Having everything in one place certainly would get rid of all the Vegas posts here. People just don't know where to post, and Magix isn't clear on this either. If everything was in one place, main tab Magix, the other Vegas Pro, it would appear to be a "no brainer" for everyone to find the right forum. But then, that would be too easy.... maybe. I don't know what migration would need to take place or to set things up. But it's a great idea and one I favor.

When I go to the main Magix page, I see in Video, Magix on top of Vegas. As for the internet, it goes by "hit" requests. Vegas probably does get more search hits than MS/VPX. Mention Vegas Pro to editors, they've all heard of it. Mention Video Pro X or MEP/MS, no one outside of Europe know about it.

@Reyfox

I agree Magix is not the only choice for any of the tasks and sometimes not even the second best solution dependent on requirements of the user. It is always wise to do one's homework before any purchase but unfortunately that is very difficult for any beginner and anything that makes making a choice easier to research or more informed for those people should be welcomed.

If I just type Vegas into my search engine this is my top result. See any links for MS or VPX?

If I type in Magix into my search engine this is my top result. At least if I click on the little //// MAGIX logo at the top of the page I can get to Vegas products as well.

Mention Vegas Pro to editors, they've all heard of it. Mention Video Pro X or MEP/MS, no one outside of Europe know about it.

That may be generally true but Magix is still in second place out of the 'Big five' video editing packages according to the 2022 report on global sales taking 65% of all market share between them and the commercial segment accounting for 67% of those sales. We do get quite a few people on the forum from the US, so some people have heard of Magix. 😂 I agree those people may well not be production editors.

Ray.

@CubeAce I believe that while Magix is the parent company, VEGAS Creative was left to it's own devices, to basically remain separate and independent. It's own website, etc.. That's why you don't see anything Magix related.

I was formally US based and knew of Magix and it's consumer and pro editing software. But name recognition in the States for Video Pro X isn't as great as Vegas Pro. But in the professional editing world, Vegas is known.

@Reyfox

I don't disagree. It's a bit like when Ford bought Volvo. It made you wonder who the boss was. 🤣🤣🤣

Ray.