Fwiw, the X12 manual only shows V2. I have also emailed proDAD support to ask abut this.

The folks at proDAD said to reach out to MAGIX, so I did that this morning. We shall see...

Also, with the download, it says "HumbleBundle" with the file.

With previous HB's you would not get the "extras" that came if you bought it from Magix when it was released.

My version does have Mercalli 2.0 listed. And the "real time stabilization" I think refers to the Vegas one included.

It handles 10bit just fine for me, and I agree with @browj2. Once you use it, it's hard to go back to MEP.

BUT for me, NBFX TotalFX 7, Titler Pro 7 just doesn't work well with the software. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

Is it worth the $25USD? It's a "no brainer".

@Reyfox 100% agree! It's been very stable for me and has great additional effect options. It's an awesome compliment to VEGAS Pro 19 too, for when I don't really need the additional functions. I haven't messed with TP7 in VP X12 yet, but I will, and I'll post back if it's working (or requires some kind of workaround or something).

I just uninstalled and reinstalled VP X12 using the file directly from my MAGIX account and it definitely does say that the proDAD Mercalli V5 Suite is included (see below). It didn't install it for me though, and proDAD had also told me that it needed to be installed from here: http://www.prodad.de/support/mercalli/mercalli-50-magix64bit.exe, and that the activation code needed to come directly from MAGIX.

@Photo_G, I have several editors to choose from depending on the project. Each brings something where they excel better than the others. And yes, this is an excellent complimentary editor with Vegas Pro 19.

@Photo_G @Reyfox

Hi guys,

I just remembered another difference between MEP and VPX; VPX has the Samplitude audio engine. If you know Samplitude at all, then you'll know that this is about the best there is.

John CB

BUT for me, NBFX TotalFX 7, Titler Pro 7 just doesn't work well with the software. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

@Reyfox I just did a basic test of NB Titler Pro 7 (OFX) in VP X12, and it appears to be working fine. I added a dynamic intro template, waited for it to pre-compile (the green circle around the TP7 transport play button), then clicked the green checkbox in the lower right corner of TP7. It closed and imported the title to VP X12 and plays back nicely. For good measure, I went back and edited the intro title again, changing the name text field, and it worked fine.

What kind of problems are you having?

I did a quick comparison of the free proDAD V2 and (included?) V5 Suite plugins for VP X(12), and there are more similarities than I expected. The V2 plugin also appears to work really well on my shaky clips, at least as well as the Mercalli Pro stabilizer in the (currently locked, watermarked) V5 Suite version. I really do wish that the NewBlueFX Stabilizer worked on Video Pro X though (that, and the free VisionColor LUT plugin). 😕

@Photo_G with TP7, I get a constant " CPU Preloading" blue bar at the bottom of the VPX window. And while this is happening, nothing can be done within the editor.

Then VPX just locks up each time I move the cursor and the Preloading starts all over again.... if there is a way to avoid this, I would love to know about it...

@Reyfox Here are a few threads that seem to reference similar behavior to look over, although not all are specific to VP X. Also, do you have the little "lightning bolt" selected in the Program: monitor?

Audio buffers? https://www.magix.info/us/forum/movie-edit-pro-2017-plus-pre-loading--1213235/#ca1410376

Settings? https://www.magix.info/us/forum/going-so-slowly--1259817/#ca1609315

Reinstall plugs? https://www.magix.info/us/forum/updatec-to-mep2020-hitfilm-movie-essentials-not-usable--1231005/

@Photo_G I just tried the same TP7 with the same clip in Vegas Pro 19.The same with Resolve 17 Studio. So TP7 is installed correctly. Everything was instantaneous. I also tried it in MEP2022 and the same wait for TP to load up, and timeline playback was stutter...pause.... pause, to the point of using Task Manager to kill it.

Maybe my settings are messed up in MEP/VPX. I'd love to reset to default, but don't know how.

@Reyfox Would this one do it, maybe? I don't know whether it's a full reset, like in VEGAS Pro though.

Fwiw, the X12 manual only shows V2. I have also emailed proDAD support to ask abut this.

proDAD will probably tell you to contact the reseller (Which in this case is Humbebundle)

@Reyfox

Hi.

Here are my observations of using NB Titler Pro 7.

Just opening and loading a preset title is relatively quick on my system but seems to exclusively use the Intel internal HD chip to process any data even though my program settings are set to nvidia, nvidia, nvidia.

Just changing the text within a preset does little to change the effectiveness or loading times.

Changing a font, background image, or animation though slows the whole process down to a crawl. Still all of this is seemingly only being tackled by the Intel processor. Even on playback once NB Titler Pro 7 has finished and been applied to a clip, when reaching that part of the video on playback I see the Intel GPU spring back into life and the section slows and becomes jerky during that period of playback.

At that point if I do a pre-render for that section it takes as long as the initial render from within NB Titler Pro 7.

Once the pre-render is finished playback is smooth over that section and the Intel GPU is doing nothing along the timeline during the pre-render section but instead my nvidia card shows increased activity, particularly doing mainly 3D rendering.

There is now also a very strong DRM copied into each mov. file if you export a rendered title as a video clip.

If you now try to use such a clip as an overlay it produces a NB Titler watermark in the bottom right hand corner of any portion of video using such a clip. It is very well implemented and so far I have found no effective way around it. No watermark is produced just placing such a clip on the timeline if no blending method is used.

Ray.

@Reyfox I have an Intel 10850K with the built-in GPU and an RTX 3060 in my system. I was seeing some weirdness a while back (in VEGAS Pro at the time), so I went into the BIOS and disabled the Intel GPU - and the issue cleared up. I can't recall the specifics of the problem now, but it appeared to be GPU related and this seemed like a logical step at the time. I may have been lucky but, if you have a similar setup to @CubeAce and I, maybe that's contributing to the TP7 issues.

Thanks @Photo_G and @CubeAce.

With Vegas Pro, it's almost "instant" when doing anything and playing it back. Resolve takes a little more time, but once it's on the clip, playback is smooth. I am talking about 4K 10bit 422 with Resolve.

I've tried 1080 with the same results in both MEP and VPX. Preloading takes a long time and barely uses the CPU. Zero on the GPU. @CubeAce you have a separate GPU, what if you disable the iGPU?

@Photo_G my computer specs are in my signature below. It's an all AMD computer. Resetting did nothing to improve the performance of TP7. I can't do anything if it's on the timeline.

@Photo_G @Reyfox

Hi,

A little aside here. This is something that I wanted to mention to you on the Vegas forum about resources in MEP/VPX that can be used elsewhere.

Templates, Movie Templates & Editing Templates

Under Templates, Movie Templates & Editing Templates, are two categories - Editing Templates Basic and Film Templates Basic. The first one, Editing Templates Basic, has selectable durations from 15s to 180s and is interesting for anyone wanting to just fill in the placeholders, change the title and export. The second one, Film Templates Basic, is intended to be used for making trailers for a video that can be added to a DVD/BR menu to preview a film before selecting it, or just making a short movie using a template. Of course, each is completely editable once you switch to the timeline. Each comes with an intro, outro, music and sometimes sound effects.

As soon as you open one of the on the timeline, all of the assets become available Projects as shown below:

So, if there is anything interesting to you, like the music (some with lengths from 15s to 180s), note them, copy them elsewhere and put links to them.

While on the topic, each time that I have tried to use one of these templates, I ran into the problem of not having filmed extreme closeups and closeups amongst other things. One should review the template to be used first, take notes, then go out and shoot. Of course, I edit them to taste and they usually end up longer than the template.

3D Titles - 3d Maker

I haven't had any problems with these in VPX13. If your timeline is 29.97 or 30fps, try changing the Animation options of frames per second to 30. I have to pre-render the part with the title on the timeline to get smooth playback. Extending the duration has not been a problem.

Of course, MEP does not give access to the full version of 3D Maker, so one is limited there. I got the full version in a Humble Bundle but have not installed on my new computer. I just use VPX13 which gives me full access. Hmmm, did I forget to put 3D Maker on the list of differences?

John CB

@browj2 templates can be a great timesaver in editing. Instead of doing things manually (as most pro editors require you to do), you can drag/drop a template on the timeline.

I have the .ogg music files from MEP2015/2016 still on my computer. But I mainly use Smartsound music in the videos I do. I wish there were a plugin for Magix....

But I mainly use Smartsound music in the videos I do. I wish there were a plugin for Magix....

+1 on this!

Has anyone received a reply regarding the issue with Mercalli V5 Suite which is advertised to be included in HumbleBundle offer ? I am also still waiting for a proper reply from HumbleBundle support. The Magix support claims that it´s HumbleBundle´s responsibility to provide the product key.

@Daniel-Kehl Nope.

Has anyone received a reply regarding the issue with Mercalli V5 Suite which is advertised to be included in HumbleBundle offer ?

March 8, 2022, 7:30am ACST, I got a reply from HumbleBundle regarding my ticket saying that they are “ experiencing a much higher volume of tickets than normal”

Gee, I wonder why?

So basically they are saying that they are currently being hammered, and to hang in there.

My guess is that the outcome will either fess up and say “Sorry, sir, we stuffed up. Here, have a Mercalli V5 Suite product key”.....or they’ll say, “all care but no responsibility and errors are allowed. Sorry, no dice”.

The former would be nice.

IMO, it's Magix that should provide the key when a valid serial number is registered. Their own installer says that it's included with the program, so...