Endless Stream of Vegas posters

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PATIENT-X wrote on 4/26/2021, 9:26 AM

I would say that there are some Moderators who are experts within their knowledge of certain software apps including many Users with similar skillset who provide a great prompt service to users in the forums. 👍 Now that's commitment guys.

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ericlnz wrote on 5/4/2021, 6:36 AM

Three "Magix" posters on the Vegas forums tonight all in German. You'd think with Magix being a German company there would be be less confusion in the home territory.

Former user wrote on 5/6/2021, 3:55 PM

Three "Magix" posters on the Vegas forums tonight all in German. You'd think with Magix being a German company there would be be less confusion in the home territory.

I don't see any point in having VEGAS Forums separate from the rest of the MAGIX forums. This is the cause of the confusion. MAGIX owns the product, but they have it on a completely different forums.

The same thing happens with Samplitude Pro. People come here posting issues or asking questions, only to be told to go register on another forum.

I think it's unreasonable that people have to register on potentially 3 different forums simply to be supported when they buy your products.

They need a better forum software, and they need these forums to be together - like at Steinberg or Avid.

The current situation is understandably confusing, and the results of that are completely expected.

Nalmcruto wrote on 5/9/2021, 11:01 AM

We need these. 😄 

emmrecs wrote on 5/9/2021, 11:33 AM

@Nalmcruto

No, we don't need what your second graphic suggests, sorry.

Jeff

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Nalmcruto wrote on 5/9/2021, 11:38 AM

@Nalmcruto

No, we don't need what your second graphic suggests, sorry.

Jeff


@emmrecs Hello, It is just a button containing a link. It can direct Vegas users here to their home.

emmrecs wrote on 5/9/2021, 11:41 AM

@Nalmcruto

Unfortunately, it seems that many posters do not notice the buttons or pinned messages, hence the problem of posts to the "wrong" forum.

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wabu wrote on 5/9/2021, 3:57 PM

When a user coming from outside eg Google

he does not see any box 😇

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CubeAce wrote on 5/9/2021, 4:04 PM

@emmrecs @wabu

Hi Jeff, Wabu.

If the people posting do not notice the buttons why do so many of them choose 'Other Products'?

One thing I noticed typing on a phone for the Vegas forums is while the correct forum comes top of the search list Magix is not mentioned at all, whereas the second hit for our forum does but does not mention Vegas. It does say though Search the Magix community for answers (blah, blah blah) and with Magix insisting it is called Magix Vegas I can see why people would select the second option.

Ray.

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Nalmcruto wrote on 5/9/2021, 6:47 PM

Doing more measures is always harmless.

emmrecs wrote on 5/10/2021, 3:25 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray.

I suspect the answer to your question is simply "because they must choose a product category in order to post".

Jeff

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CubeAce wrote on 5/10/2021, 4:17 AM

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff.

Why by definition means they are looking for buttons, yes?

Ray..

 

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

ericlnz wrote on 5/10/2021, 5:29 AM

Why by definition means they are looking for buttons, yes?

Maybe not, as there's the New Post button at the very top of my screen, on the right.

CubeAce wrote on 5/10/2021, 6:04 AM

@ericlnz

Hi Eric.

What phone browser are you using?

I get News. Video. Audio, at top of page.Immediately underneath I see Other Products. ATTENTION!! THIS IS NOT THE VEGAS FORUM-PLEASE READ!!. all in blue on white. When it works.

It's no wonder people who can't use the programs also seem to have an educational need as well. Will just have to sit back and try hard not to be too hard on them. After all, no-one has to answer anything here. It's just demoralising to repeat oneself so often.

Ray.

 

 

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

ericlnz wrote on 5/10/2021, 6:20 AM

@CubeAce Sorry I should have said this is on my pc. Checking my Android phone with Chrome I get the same as you.

johnebaker wrote on 5/10/2021, 8:47 AM

Hi everyone

. . . . . After all, no-one has to answer anything here. It's just demoralising to repeat oneself so often. . . . .

I would agree with this and I suggest it is time this topic on Vegas users is brought to a close.

The many varied suggestions, that in theory should work, are hampered by the fact that we are trying to accommodate human nature in a modern 'instant on' environment where there is a (large) section of the public, who if they cannot find something within a couple of clicks, do not know which program they have or the correct name, or don't bother to read the obvious,on screen or in the manual, will post anyway.

John EB

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CubeAce wrote on 5/10/2021, 9:03 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I would agree with this and I suggest it is time this topic on Vegas users is brought to a close.

You know it will just open a new one 😂😂😂😉😇😇😇

Ray.

 

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Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Scenestealer wrote on 5/10/2021, 9:36 PM

@johnebaker @CubeAce @emmrecs @wabu

Hi Mods

Would anyone object to us going through and deleting the locked Vegas posts a couple of days after they have been locked? It would tidy up the topics list and be less eye catching for new Vegas posters that "accidentally" start topics in the wrong forum.

Peter

 

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ericlnz wrote on 5/10/2021, 10:06 PM

Just hiding them is preferable as they are then still visible to you mods but not visible to the rest of us.

Scenestealer wrote on 5/10/2021, 10:22 PM

@ericlnz

I am not sure we need to see them again plus we still see the clutter....?

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ericlnz wrote on 5/10/2021, 10:48 PM

@Scenestealer Deleting them removes them for ever. You may not need them again but you never know, and they could be useful for statistical or reference purposes.

CubeAce wrote on 5/11/2021, 1:11 AM

@Scenestealer

Tidy would be nice and simpler to find relevant older posts.

Ray.

 

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Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 5/11/2021, 2:40 AM

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter

I am with Eric on this one.

There are a few I left open waiting for a reply on how they got here I will hide them as there has been no response in some of them.

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KeithH wrote on 5/11/2021, 5:01 PM

This is why Its confusion to people. First Magix own both Movie Edit Pro/ Video Pro X and Also Vegas Movie Studio/ Vegas Pro. Magix's Movie Edit Pro software is not sold in Best Buy in the United States, but Magix Movie Studio software is, right there on the store shelves right next to Adobe Premier Elements, Corel VideoStudio, Cyberlink Powerdirector, and Pinnacle Studio. So this alone helps bring Magix into the brand awareness of the US (although My first hurra was Xar Phot and Graphic Designer, and I loved it so much i Upgraded to Designer Pro, and now I have Designer Pro X)

So a user goes to magix site because thats on the box and the Brand that sells their software. Now in the us yo on the homepage, you scroll down and clearly there are three side to side boxes comparing 1. Movie Pro X, 2. Video Pro X, and 3. Vegas Pro..... Now scroll to the footer and you see Magix Community (no Vegas Community). So yes magix owns both, Everyone knows that "community" means forum, so that is why they are coming here for Vegas questions.

Magix should either add a "Vegas Community" link right below "magix Community" link in the footer or they should combine the two forums and subdivide them within the same forum.

People forget the users are coming here for this exact reaon and being harsh to them will probable give them a bad taste in their mouth and leave the brand for that reason alone