@johnebaker Hi,

I mentioned subtitles & transparent background just as an example relating to the title of this post 'Video Pro X and Vegas Pro exports' that is all, it wasn't really anything to do with srt subtitles etc. that just happened to be the latter subject mentioned in this post which has drifted from it's origin, so seeing as the fact that VPX doesn't export with Alpha & Vegas does I just thought it was worth mentioning, but saying that sometimes I do add subtitles that are permanent, they're more because you can't hear me or i forgot to say something when filming.

Yep I understand what the srt file is, & i can only show how it works in Vegas, I didn't want to get involved with subtitles+Vegas in this thread because this is MS/VPX forum & beyond how they work in Vegas I know nothing of how they're used in broadcasting...

srt files are imported & land on the top of the timeline as blue items (.txt import the same) , I don't know the tech term, each can be adjusted, then the CC can be Exported using the scripts as .sub .txt .smi .srt,...

Transcripts can be copied from YT vids & pasted in a Text Document .txt

I downloaded this srt from one of my vids on YT,

@Former user

Hi Gid.

I wonder if that was what Al (AAProds) was after, some time back?

Ray.

@CubeAce Dunno , I don't recall what he was after 🤷‍♂️, I don't much more than in that vid, the scripting only exports the imported text that's in the blue boxes at the top, I think to export text events that are on a track that come from Media Generator Titles & Text as a .srt file you need to use Vegasaur,

I was entering sub titles in VPX as I have heard a lot of people use them if they are in noisy areas. I get that this is different from closed captions which can be turned on or off. I am just exploring what is possible or desirable. For instance if I put it out on my own and not Filmhub it might be good to have the subtitles if they aren't distracting.

I wonder if that was what Al (AAProds) was after, some time back?

@CubeAce Ray, I was only after a better looking/functional title feature for adding a title as a burned-in subtitle. I'd like a black rectangular background/edging on every letter, instead of having to set up a black image/box behind the text to act as a background.

@AAProds Yeah it'd be good if MS/VPX did a background to the text like Vegas does. I've wanted that for yrs to help make text be more visible,

Fairly simple to do... but what I would like is the ability to draw rectangles, ovals within the text editor.

@Former user

That's exactly what I mean. 👍

@AAProds 👍 Yep we all had this conversation a while back, was it cookie cutter needed to make the coloured background corners rounded? long time ago n i've forgotten.

@Reyfox You mean like the text to follow a path?

Edit - just read your comment, "within the text editor" 👍🤦‍♂️

@Former user.. and be able to have a Gradient on the colors...

@Reyfox 😁👍 I think that's asking for a lot tho seeing as MMS/VPX can't create masks or gradients,

I opened NB Titler earlier after reading your msg just to see how it goes, I normally open it from Vegas or as the standalone, all was fine but returning to VPX, VPX froze & had to be closed with Taskmanager, I didn't try a second time.

I do like MMS/VPX tho, it's a good basic editor with a strong engine, I think it's good for people to have to learn the basics of masking with a B/W image, with that a gradient can be created & text can be used as a mask too, so with a bit of creativeness a lot can be achieved, I think this helps when using other software to understand what a mask does, It's that fine line between learning to do it with a bit of faffing vs pushing a button & it's done for you,

@Former user while pushing buttons works sometimes, a lot of the time it doesn't. If it were that easy, push a button and it's done, there would be no need for plugins and special effects.

I'm a long time user of Pinnacle Studio. Since Avid Studio, the title editor has been slowly evolving. Now, you can add shapes, gradient anything, keyframe animation, built in animations/text styles, etc..

First image is of the title editor, and it's not showing everything.

The second image of of the title on the timeline.

@AAProds

Hi Al

. . . .  I'd like a black rectangular background/edging on every letter, . . . .

Edging on every letter is easy -

For background have you looked at the Subtitles Basic and Captions Basic - you can adjust these to how you want them to be.

HTH

John EB

@doug_mccarron

Hi Doug,

We seem to have strayed from your original topic. So be it.

You mentioned VOB files way back and I had a thought. VPX and some other programs allow multiple language audio tracks that, when creating a DVD, add a Language button and allow the user to change languages for playback. This removes the need for multiple video files as only the audio track is created for each. Somehow, some of the VOB files should be just audio with each language track. I did a quick test for 2 languages (encode in directory) and was not able to find out which files contained the particular language track. This may what was meant by VOB files - various languages.

Other than CC, did you want to include multiple languages?

I did one project way back with narration in English and French and have more to come, if I ever get to them.

@johnebaker

Hi John EB,

The templates for Subtitles Basic and Captions Basic, do not do the same thing as the others have mentioned. The Subtitles Basic do not have the background, only effects on the title, often with a png to help make it.

The Captions Basic have a background and use an mp4 or mxv video file plus a mask and the width and height is not automatically adjustable to the text.

Text has a rectangular box that resizes with the text, but we can't access it. As pointed out by the others, we should be able to access the box, give it colours, opacity etc. There are some effects that, when placed on a title, make the rectangle appear, but there is usually little control over the colour and opacity, but at least we see the rectangle. I'll have to go on my other computer and hunt down a couple of examples.

That said, it is past time that Magix work on this (and much more).

@Reyfox

Yes, Pinnacle Studio has made leaps and bounds over the last few years, and not just with titling. Magix seems to be lagging behind with relatively few new features. The last main new feature was the overhaul of the Size/Position/Rotation effect with anchor points and XYZ combinations, and Magix made a hash of that that took a new version of MMS to resolve most problems but with some bugs still present (motion tracking has at least one bug).

John CB

@browj2

John, re "VOB"s...

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/video-pro-x-and-vegas-pro-exports--1324934/?page=2#ca1867460

@AAProds

Hi Al,

Thanks for the link; I hadn't opened it. Yes, that is likely what they meant.

I was just wondering, though, about multi-language audio. Is that even an option with Filmhub? And which files are they in a DVD compilation?

@johnebaker

John EB, Al and others,

I found two effects that add the rectangular background to a title using the title box itself, so it resizes. Not Magix effects, but no need to add a background and resize it.

New Blue Dream Glow creates a black box:

New Blue Duochrome creates a white box - use Blend Mode Hard Light and you can adjust the opacity of the background using the Blend slider:

NB Vignette allows you to change the background colour with transparency. I added an outline to the text to make it stand out:

John CB

@browj2, the title editor in Pinnacle has been available for close to 10 years with small improvements in the UI over the years. I posted the same thing in Vegas forum, and it has always been a feature request to have a good "stock" title editor.

Vegas relies on third party title editors (NBFX Titler Pro or Boris Title Studio) for comprehensive title work. Then there ProType Titler in Vegas. It does some nice things, but it's old and Pinnacle is still a better title editor, and is easier to use, without any 3rd party assist.

@browj2

JohnCB, thanks for that, that's what I was after. I'll check it out. Due to my old system I never really got into any of the third-party effects apart from Neat; I'll have to revisit them now.

@browj2

Hi John

. . . . The Subtitles Basic do not have the background . . . .

If you look at my response to Al you will see the first part I mentioned was 'Edging on every letter', which I took to mean the Border feature.

The second half I should have clarified 'you can adjust these to how you want them to be' ie you can remove/change the keyframing or replace the component parts that create the background with your own, with or without the keyframe animations.

John EB

Hi I have been away. Yes this is sprawling from my original question but I am learning a lot, as it seems all of you are learning and sharing so I think that is a good thing.

Can someone tell me how to reach vegas support again? I had a support ticket with them working out why vegas wouldn't load and we were working it out, but suddenly the ticket is marked as closed so I can't continue to resolution.
 

@doug_mccarron

With apologies to you but I have removed much of the content of your latest post, because a) it included the name of Magix personnel, publication of which to the forums is explicitly forbidden, b) you included material which could be considered advertising and/or irrelevant, and c) you are asking in the details of your post about Vegas Edit whose correct forum is here.

That linked page includes a Support header which, when clicked, leads to a page where you have the option to Contact Support.

Since the email thread which you copied to your post included an email address from which you received a reply, have you tried simply emailing that address again?

Jeff
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