OK. So I've rolled back to the previous version and it seems stable. But, and this is a big BUT! I've lost the last four plugins I bought at the MAGIX shop on line mentioned in my previous post and they now don't appear in my shop window to re-download so part of the last update must have been for those effects as well. Now what? I've tried looking for a contact email address. I don't mind not having the effects but I'm bummed I paid for them and possibly won't get them back. OK, they weren't expensive but I was looking forward to using them.

@CubeAce

Looking at the messages, I noticed that the update to 213 included "Available now in the Store: Design elements." It's quite possible that the Store doesn't recognize these with an older patch, or something.

John CB

@CubeAce

Just following up on what @browj2 has written; are these the "plugins" you bought?

If so, they are, as John said, apparently "new" to this latest version. Hence, their current absence.

However, if you do manage to resolve the problems you have with this latest patch, since you have already "purchased" them, they will be permanently linked to your Store account so can be redownloaded in the future.

Jeff

@browj2 and @emmrecs

Yes John, that is the conclusion I came to, that the patch is needed to have the plugins and yes Jeff, those are the ones I now can't get to but assume if there is another updated patch at some point, that should come back. I've files the receipts at least :-) To be honest I only got them for possible future use, or for ideas to base making my own transitions on. I've already experimented with making my own simple masks and animating them within MEP. Once I got used to the structure and how they work it seemed simple enough and MEP allows you to make and store your own effects. I really like this program. Just a bit frustrated with the last update. Maybe it's a Win 7 thing which is why I asked which operating sytem Jessarr was using.

@CubeAce, Oops, sorry, didn't see your request for operation system - Windows 10, with all current updates.

Cheers, J

@Jayessarr

Thanks for the info. So, not an operating system problem then. Are you using a Sandy or Ivy bridge processor? I'm stuck at present with an Ivy bridge processor.

@CubeAce

Mine's a SandyBridge:

@Jayessarr

Not that then either :-)

I'm concerned that it appears to be just us two suffering but with two different setups. I had my antivirus turned off during install so I doubt it was that either. At least you get hardware acceleration :-) Still, it appears there will be another update coming in December sometime. I will have to wait and see. Again, thanks for the information.

Hi @CubeAce,

I'm concerned that it appears to be just us two suffering but with two different setups.

Yes, how odd. But if the bug only affects title objects, maybe most users are unaware of the problem. I'm hoping the next update will fix it, and that you get your transitions back.
How did you hear about the December update BTW? Thanks! J

@Jayessarr

One of the other threads mentions there will be an update to the titles of all things. Apparently, it was an answer to a question made on the German forum.

@CubeAce

The only problem that I'm getting is with 3D titles in MEP2019, 18.0.1.213, is that the second one, different template, is a copy of the first one, for some strange reason. Delete the second one and do it again, and it works. Put in a third title, different template, and it shows the second one. Etc. For now, just delete and do it again. Don't bother changing the text the first time.

I don't have any problems with the non-3D templates.

See this video that I will report to Magix:

Is this basically the problem? Or is there more on this topic?

John CB

I don't have any problems with the non-3D templates.

Is this basically the problem? Or is there more on this topic?

@browj2 I found that if I stretched a title object by dragging the right edge, MEP froze. Do you find that?

J

@browj2

Hi Jeff. That is the beginning of it yes. Then try this. Try correcting the second effect as you did and then save the project. Re-open the project and it will have reverted back to the first effect and text on the second effect. Also as Jayessarr is saying, dragging an effect to lengthen it freezes the program almost immediately, as does copying and pasting the effect side by side to make it longer. I also lost other effects further along the timeline on a project I had already finished once in an earlier version of MEP.

Hi,

I don't have any crashes by lengthening the 3D titles or copying them. However, editing has slowed down dramatically.

If I redo a 3D title, like delete and select the correct one, it works and it still works after restarting the program. Of course, if I add another different 3D title, it takes on the properties of the previous one, and so on.

I see that there is the same problem in VPX, patch 304.

With further playing around in VPX, I managed to crash it. I added a title to another track. Opened it, changed the text, accepted, and froze.

Not good.

I'll do another test by copying some 3DS files elsewhere and importing them onto the timeline.

John CB

@browj2

Thanks, John, Sorry for getting your name wrong earlier. This is much appreciated and at least now seems to have something to do with the Magix update itself with at least, repeatable problems. That is a relief from worrying it may be my PC not coping somehow. Maybe it's some sort of memory cascade. I've only got 16gig of ram.

I just tested by copying some 3DS files elsewhere and importing them onto the timeline. This gives the same problems. I imported Party, Crimescene and Crimescene again, and they were all Party.

Then I deleted the second one and imported Crimescene again to the same location. It worked but MEP froze. I did some chores, came back, and it was working. So it may be that it takes quite a while to process something.

I deleted the third one and replaced it with Crazy. Worked. Changed the text; worked. Extended it out; worked. Typed this and moused over MEP - frozen. I wait to see if it comes back.

John CB

I've only got 16gig of ram.

If it helps to know this, @CubeAce - I've only got 8Gb ram. J

I waited 15 minutes, MEP didn't come back so I closed it from the Task Manager.

I just tested this in MEPP2016. No problems whatsoever, and they don't drag down editing. So, it's a problem with the current MEP and VPX. I also copied one and stretched a couple of the titles without problems.

I have 16GB on my desktop, which is now getting quite old. 16GB is plenty. 8GB on my laptop, Surface Pro 4.

John CB

@Jayessarr

If John has more than 16gigs of memory it could be a memory overflow stack problem, like a feedback loop. Even so, it's odd as I've never normally used more than about 4.6gig of ram using MEP so I thought I was well within operating limits. The problem is when the program freezes it doesn't generate a crash report, and the other times it doesn't crash, so again nothing shows as wrong.

@browj2

Hi John. This happened within a project using at least 20 different titling effects including the three different problematic ones. The project was only using up around 4 gig of ram at the time and only three minutes long.

I notice MEP allows project sharing. I'd gladly share the project for you to test if I knew how to set that up.

@CubeAce

This is how to ‘set it up’.

Make a small, non-confidential project exhibiting the issue/problem/whatever. Then use File > Backup copy > ‘Copy project and media’ into a folder. Zip it up and upload it to a host site. Like several of us here, I use Dropbox for example. Anyone can then download it and then run the project in their local version of MEP.

Terry, UK

@terrypin

Hi Terry,

Thanks for jumping in.

@CubeAce

Share - I think what you're referring to is the Share item in the top menu. That only allows you to share with certain other Magix programs on your computer. See my tutorial on using MEP with MusicMaker.

Further to what Terry said, any video files that are used in your project should be fairly small, because what we will get is the entire video clip, even if you used 10 seconds out of 1 hour.

John CB

@browj2

Hi John.

Actually, I was refering to a recipient via Share \ Send with send anywhere \ Send current Project and media and generate a key.

Then send the key to the recipient and they press the Send Anywhere button on the import section and it tells them to load the key. The project would then be downloaded to them. At least I thought that was how it worked as long as both had adequate internet connections. Possibly both machines would have to be on at the same time. If I've misunderstood that I apologise. I used to do this type of thing within Cubase many years on collaborative projects long ago and I just assumed that was what the 'send project' was about.