Hi John
Re HEVC codec
The specs for MEP do say that the fee is for export only, import is already there with no further fee.
JohnCB said:-
I could not import into MEP2019 as it wanted me to pay for a CODEC.
The Help files in MEP say:-
The HEVC codec requires a one-time, fee-based activation to be
used.
You will be asked to activate HEVC the first time you import a video created with the codec or export a project with the codec.Click "To the shop" if you want to activate the codec online. (Alternatively: Click "By Post/Fax..." to receive an activation code by post or email and follow the instructions that appear.)
The only reason I thought that I didn't need to activate it in MEP was because it had installed when VPX was installed. Was I wrong? I don't know because it didn't appear to have installed in @browj2 case.
Good to see you have found a solution that works for you however it would be good to get to the bottom of why it does not work in MEP on some members setups. I presume they are forwarding the problem to their engineers to find a reason.
Now that you have VPX installed is there any change to the way the file behaves in MEP?
Of course, as I was expecting - contrary to MEP performance in Intel, Video Pro X with Nvidia is flying. So far no single hiccup.
I hope that you appreciate that MEP and VPX are quite different in that only VPX can utilise the separate NVDEC hardware decoder chip (and NVENC encoder chip) on the Nvidia cards...… and yes the preview performance increase with HEVC files is impressive. On VPX12 they have extended the NVDEC capability to include H.264 decoding as well, but sadly not NVENC encoding. We hope that this technology will eventually become available in MEP as well.
Every test I make, the performance on Nvidia dedicated graphics is of course better, since it's much more powerful.
It is not in MEP - a point you seem to be unable to accept!
Which codecs are from Magix that I can buy? Where is it?
See my quote (above) from a section called "Codec activation" from the MEP Help files. There is also the Main Concept MPEG4 alternative encoder from the Install extra content > Additional Downloads in the top Help menu.
In fact I wondered if @browj2 and @emmrecs might not have this Main Concept installed on their versions of MEP that might be making a difference to whether your file plays or not, but that's a long shot.
Charging for encoder is OK but not allowing decoding until you pay for encoder sounds like a Nigerian scam where you need to deposit $x amount to withdraw $y amount.
I am not sure I agree with you - if Magix need to pay for a licence to use it then they would be justified in passing this on the same as they charge for the DVCPro and AVC Intra codecs in VPX. Anyway isn't this what Microsoft did with the MPEG2 codec in early Win 10 versions....
Peter
well there are a lot of free H.265 codecs as well as decoder. You get even look at the source code at x256, but i am not sure of it's GNU Licensing meaning, not a coder myself. I may be mistaken but I had the option to encode either H.264 or H.265 previously but now I suddenly have to pay for H.265 -- because of changing the name(!!???) to HEVC.
Asking for payment to use it to decode is not on when other can do it. Just need to know how to use other decodec with MEP and issue is solved.
Those programs that do not charge possibly belong to the group that developed HEVC, but the codec is charged for. Magix is not one of the companies that helped develop HVEC. H.264 does not come into that arrangement.
More information can be found here.
[Edit] That last statement of yours is only true if you do straight decoding with no added effects.
. . . . Wow... just chanced on this blog.... I am missing so much . . . .
Not sure what the connection is here - the blog is referring to a different OS - Linux - and all the information there on how to set it up is not applicable to Windows.
John EB
Not sure what the connection is here - the blog is referring to a different OS - Linux - and all the information there on how to set it up is not applicable to Windows.
John EB
What i mean is that MEP NOT USING GTX960 makes me miss so much... that all.
So do you have any information about making MEP use external codec ??
I surely hope you do. 🙂
Anyway isn't this what Microsoft did with the MPEG2 codec in early Win 10 versions....
well, if A bashes up someone... does mean that B should follow bashing someone else.... knowing it not right.
That's not really good practice but companies need creative ways of making money. I get it.
Hi John
Re HEVC codec
The specs for MEP do say that the fee is for export only, import is already there with no further fee.
JohnCB said:-
I could not import into MEP2019 as it wanted me to pay for a CODEC.
The Help files in MEP say:-
The HEVC codec requires a one-time, fee-based activation to be
used.You will be asked to activate HEVC the first time you import a video created with the codec or export a project with the codec.Click "To the shop" if you want to activate the codec online. (Alternatively: Click "By Post/Fax..." to receive an activation code by post or email and follow the instructions that appear.)
The only reason I thought that I didn't need to activate it in MEP was because it had installed when VPX was installed. Was I wrong? I don't know because it didn't appear to have installed in @browj2 case.
Good to see you have found a solution that works for you however it would be good to get to the bottom of why it does not work in MEP on some members setups. I presume they are forwarding the problem to their engineers to find a reason.
Now that you have VPX installed is there any change to the way the file behaves in MEP?
Of course, as I was expecting - contrary to MEP performance in Intel, Video Pro X with Nvidia is flying. So far no single hiccup.
I hope that you appreciate that MEP and VPX are quite different in that only VPX can utilise the separate NVDEC hardware decoder chip (and NVENC encoder chip) on the Nvidia cards...… and yes the preview performance increase with HEVC files is impressive. On VPX12 they have extended the NVDEC capability to include H.264 decoding as well, but sadly not NVENC encoding. We hope that this technology will eventually become available in MEP as well.
Every test I make, the performance on Nvidia dedicated graphics is of course better, since it's much more powerful.
It is not in MEP - a point you seem to be unable to accept!
Which codecs are from Magix that I can buy? Where is it?
See my quote (above) from a section called "Codec activation" from the MEP Help files. There is also the Main Concept MPEG4 alternative encoder from the Install extra content > Additional Downloads in the top Help menu.
In fact I wondered if @browj2 and @emmrecs might not have this installed on their versions of MEP that might be making a difference to whether your file plays or not, but that's a long shot.
Charging for encoder is OK but not allowing decoding until you pay for encoder sounds like a Nigerian scam where you need to deposit $x amount to withdraw $y amount.
I am not sure I agree with you if Magix need to pay for a licence to use it then they would be justified in passing this on the same as they charge for the DVCPro and AVC Intra codecs in VPX. Anyway isn't this what Microsoft did with the MPEG2 codec in early Win 10 versions....
Peter
Yes, Magix is looking into it, that is what they told me.
As for MEP, I will try later to play it again on MEP.
Hi
. . . . So do you have any information about making MEP use external codec ?? . . . .
There is no option in the program settings to use a codec that while install may not be usable by the program, and, AFAIK, a way to force the program to use a codec. Additionally using third party alternative codecs is likely to cause more issues with poor quality and instability.
John EB
Thanks John
🙁