Hi, I had an old monitor that i didn't use since getting the 2 bigger ones. I tried plugging it in to the motherboard ages ago n it didn't work but after enabling the internal graphics i thought I'd try it again, it works 😁 I always fancied a 3rd monitor, don't know why 😏😁 but i do intend on getting a bigger monitor for running Magix, as it is when i have a preview screen that i can see ok it only leaves me with 4 tracks visible, I've tried juggling the layouts, this 3rd screen might mean i can split the parts up from standard layout but i do like the preview screen above the tracks, i need a monitor that's taller not so much wider. have you any thoughts on adding this 3rd screen, for n against? thanks

The only prob i have is how to fit 3 on my desk, I'm a joiner so I'll come up with something 👍😂

@johnebaker

I agree, the right tool, where possible, for the right job but is it always possible?

Some audio editors won't allow a video import to sync to, and again depends on the drive if not an internal one. Ideally you wouldn't want to do that but some may not have much of a choice.

How many do we see here clearly struggling, trying to keep older systems and programs alive?

@Former user

I would be interested to see what type of performance impact a third monitor would have. I think larger screens with more pixels would be the way to go though. I Like the glowing stack of red lights in the background 👍.

Is that a speaker in the alcove in the background? B&W by any chance?

Ray.

@Former user

Hi

How are you running MEP with your dual monitors?

This is my preferred dual monitor layout, left main interface, right Preview monitor

John EB

I tried stacking it on top of the other to get an idea n i think even if a made a mount with the bottom screen hard onto the desk, the combined size of 50mm of the 2 screens black borders puts the preview monitor in magix a little too high, with this i get 10 tracks but i only need maybe 5,6 or 7, vid clip with audio, subtitles, a pic n maybe a mask, It gives me a rough idea tho of what size screen I'd like though, that's something I've been pondering on & at the moment 3 screens seems to work, the little one is old so the specs are prob dated, I don't know if this pic tells you anything

The Cambridge amps above are connect to 2 BOSE on the wall, 2 Telefunken TLX 3 Profesional on the floor, 2 Goodmans under the desk & a pair of mall JBL's in the kitchen, I used to work for a firm that fit pubs n clubs out 😁 everything in my house is covered in dust & cobwebs so I've blurred the unsightly 😂

@Former user

Hi.

You can save different work spaces within MEP and easily switch back and forth when needed. Why not open the time line editor to a full screen. You could then view 17 to 18 tracks.

Ray.

@Former user

Then I don't recognize those Bose units. I know they do very small units now but only seen those in white.

Never owned a pair of JBL speakers of any size.

I have an early Cambridge P50 amp in good working order. 😀

Ray.

Yeah I've juggled with different layouts over the yrs, been using Magix for about 15yrs, you'd think i would have it sorted by now 😂 I like the preview at 1080i half 960x540, that's a comfortable size, in this pic you can just see the top of the preview o the top screen with the 7 tracks I'd like, i just need a bigger screen, 👍thanks

The bose are pub speakers from the 90's, 430mm wide x 270mm high, when they put speakers in shops quite often they're good quality, performance is needed and the shops just right the price off in expenses etc, the JBL's are really good little speakers i acquired when gutting a shop for refurb,

@Former user

I had a pair of those in the late 70s. In the corner section there is a rotatable paddle accessible from the top. They don't take much wattage. Swapped them for a pair of Acoustic Research speakers that were worse. Then I went to a pair of Goodmans LS35a speakers. Those were then swapped for a pair of RAM acoustic studio monitors that I'm using right now. The Bose sounded OK, they just didn't have much volume in the room I had them in at the time.

I wonder why I didn't recognize them. Do you have the corner panels off and standing sideways?

Ray.

No they're as in the picture, keeps the dust off, the amps are set about ½ volume, there's no no's on the dial so @ 5 if it went to 10, it's only a small room, 14ft-ish sq n the kitchen attached, with all these 8 speakers i don't need to turn the pc volume much 🙉😂 the Bose give clarity high up, the Telefunken give the base on the floor., the Goodmans are my general pc speakers so they're not set high n the JBL's in the kitchen have good base but a clear too, more than fine for the kitchen & the sound isn't lost when i move between rooms, between them they give an all round sound, I'd like the RAM speakers but its £s n I tend to acquire things, 👍

@Former user

I've gone through so many bits of kit through the years and still have stuff I've never used and one or two bits in need of attention. That's the problem with accumulating too much kit. The thing I can't get on with are some of the newer amps. They are just bit too clinical and brittle sounding. My version of those Bose speakers didn't have their logo on the front like yours. They just had small raised lettering in gold. Nice to see I'm not the only person using older audio equipment.

Ray.

😁👍 There's a pair of Wharfedale speakers upstairs, they're a bit rubbish, not very clear but for some reason i can't get rid, 🤷‍♂️🤔 Just been playing to see what works fine or not after the changes, In the Effects tree i have NewBlue effects stuff, it's never worked well for me, the inboard tuff with the newblue label next to it used to crash my program or just not work, it works now as long I disable the GPU but that means my NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 card looks like it's doing some hard graft n it isn't perfect, esp if i mess about with it, would a better card work better? & what are the key no's I'm looking for,? I've just been going through what CCL online cards but there's too many, i don't play games, it will be purely for movie editing, the NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 i have is 2GB, if you could point me in the right direction I'd be grateful, Thanks

My motherboard https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Motherboard/GA-B250M-DS3H-rev-10/sp#sp

& the card i have https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-1030/specifications

I use CCLonline https://www.cclonline.com/category/430/PC-Components/Graphics-Cards/

I searched video editing graphics cards, https://www.cclonline.com/product/231270/RX-580P8DFD6/Graphics-Cards/XFX-Radeon-RX-580-GTS-XXX-8GB-OC-Graphics-Card/VGA3779/

@Former user

I am like you in that I feel the 960x540 preview is optimum, do not use many tracks, and prefer the preview to be over the timeline as opposed to having the timeline on a separate screen, plus I tend to mainly use VPX which has 2 x monitors. I have my Media Pool and Effects window on a second monitor and that allows me to full screen the main preview on my main monitor with a double click and still access the Effects adjustments for critical tweaking.

You got me thinking though about the fact that some monitors like my HP ZR24W have a portrait mode allowing them to be swung 90 degrees which might work quite well with MEP, if the monitor was big enough to give you a reasonably wide timeline with preview above it.

@johnebaker

uncompressed WAV ~ 0.4 MB/s (360 kb/s) per file,

That should be 1536kbps shouldn't it? That is what our Sony AX53's record with and I think this is why the UHD footage plays so well in MEP/VPX ie no compression to need additional decoding during preview.

your DJI at 25 MB/s (100 Mb/s) per track.

Aren't there 8bits in a Byte?

Peter

@Former user

I am like you in that I feel the 960x540 preview is optimum, do not use many tracks, and prefer the preview to be over the timeline as opposed to having the timeline on a separate screen, plus I tend to mainly use VPX which has 2 x monitors. I have my Media Pool and Effects window on a second monitor and that allows me to full screen the main preview on my main monitor with a double click and still access the Effects adjustments for critical tweaking.

You got me thinking though about the fact that some monitors like my HP ZR24W have a portrait mode allowing them to be swung 90 degrees which might work quite well with MEP, if the monitor was big enough to give you a reasonably wide timeline with preview above it.

 

Hi, Yeah, the other resolutions are jut a bit too small, I've considered turning it like that, 90º. it didn't really fit with me, i like to be able to see ahead, I've just shuffled the timeline along to the size it would be, I think i need a screen as tall as it is wide 😊

Tried rotating the screen, the track wasn't long enough & the preview monitor was a little high, lots of wasted space at the top so tried the media pool in there but not quite enough height 🤷‍♂️🤪😁 back to the way they were, i just need 4" or 5" extra on top of the screen i have,

@Former user

I presume your screen is 1920x1080 - mine is 1920x1200 so would be a little more practical.

Re: a replacement graphics card - it might help with the NB FX. I have an Nvidia GTX1060 and can preview without crashing. I would stick with an Nvidia as Magix do have some optimisations that are tailored to these cards. Among them the big one is using the hardware chips NVENC for encoding and NVDEC for decoding when working with HEVC. At present this is only in VPX but this feature may trickle down to MEP in future. @emmrecs has a Radeon and that seems to perform well in his tests with encoding and playback but Magix seem to have always leaned towards Nvidia. The Radeon does not have the NVENC and NVDEC however and BTW the NVENC chip is missing on your GT1030.

Hi, I need to wake up properly but i saw this, https://www.cclonline.com/product/298892/GTX-1660-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC/Graphics-Cards/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1660-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC-6GB-Overclocked-Graphics-Card/VGA5688/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/graphics-cards/gtx-1660-super/

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter

Thanks for the heads up on the conversions - they have been corrected - used a calculator this time 🔢.

. . . Aren't there 8bits in a Byte . . . .

For some reason I used a factor of 4 !

John EB

@Former user @Scenestealer @johnebaker

Good morning all.

Hi Gid.

The Warfdale's main problem was always cabinet resonance and not an easy fix. You could try additional internal bracing or extra dampening materials but the bass drivers always flexed more than was good for crisp bass. Warfdale never even made my top 50 in choice of speakers but there are a lot worse out there and I haven't heard a modern pair in the last 20 years so my opinion may be well out of date.

Even though I recently updated my motherboard and CPU as my old system was over ten years old and not that high end to begin with I am currently using the same graphics card as yourself with no problems. Your processor and motherboard are not that old and top clock speed not bad. Just make sure you have all the latest drivers for your system including bios but especially for the Nvidia card which is currently the DCH driver which should be version 432.00. Don't be bothered about game drivers. Having an SSD or M.2 drive to put your project on to work from is probably a cheaper upgrade to do if you don't already use more than one. They don't have to be that large for this or that fast. My C: drive SSD is currently £34:00 or thereabouts and only around 250GBs. Even with everything I use installed I still have over half the drive empty. Just don't ever store additional program data on it. Save everything you do to other drives. Keep the C: drive tidy and free of junk. Clean regularly.

To see the whole project have you tried using 'Shift +A' to get the whole project showing in the preview monitor window. Pressing the combination again or just pressing play will bring back the normal view.

Of course, it won't harm to upgrade the graphics card but unless you are using or exporting HEVC I don't think it will make a great difference at this stage. It should help for smoother playback but doubt it will help in export times that much.

Ray.

Hi Ray & John, Thanks a lot with what we went through in this thread 👍, I haven't been on here because you prob understand that once you finally have get the PC up n running a bit more how like how you'd like, then you can crack on n do some work & stop messing with it, 😁 Everything has been fine, filming work & editing i can't speed up, apart from trying to film things in one take 🙊😂 but reducing the final export time to almost ½ has made a big difference. There's been a few very minor glitches generally with all programs, i though maybe i was pushing the GT1030 a bit much, i use CAD, GIMP, MAGIX, Explorer. PHOTOS, Google, sometimes all open at the same time, so i decided to update my Graphics card, i got in touch with magix, giving them my PC specs, they recommended a NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX card, so i went with a NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 Super, Thanks to what we discussed i could go through the different settings, I exported a 4min vid, in about 2mins but putting internal graphics as disabled or on Auto it went back up to 1½ times the length of the clip for export,

😂 i tried with all settings i could think of & the new graphics card doesn't seem to make any difference with exporting, I ended up back with exactly the same settings as before with the internal graphics enabled

😂 Hopefully this card will help generally with the other programs tho, I'll have to watch it n see,

Just thought i'd let you know, thanks again 👍