@CubeAce

That is the whole point of resizable bar and the Intel Quick Sync system.

Ray, maybe so, but the GPU itself is a standalone GPU like an NVidia, which you suggested be used as well. Why have both? The was the point of my "pointless" comment.

@CubeAce

The red dot has been in the program since MEP 2004. It signifies that that file is in use. The new file icons do look tacky and in the case of MP4s, I see your colour point.

So far, I think I'd rather have saved my 23 quid. Is there a way of reversing the installation and returning to my old software that worked properly?

Check your Magix account: if you registered your MEP 2016,

Thanks for your response. Yes, I was certainly aware of the red dot - it's just a bit daft to have it on a pink background which requires a n active look at the file list to see where you are.

My gripe is that the software appears to look almost exactly the same to me, and has all the menus in the same places, and does exactly the same things, but now has some "features" like the little icons on the popup menus that slow it down considerably. I do not see any advantage of using this version, which I'm kind of disappointed about because I expected that, after several years, things would be radically improved in all sorts of directions.

Like the example I gave of being able to quickly select "all clips from here to the end" in order to move them along and insert a new cllip into the middle of a project.

I also notice that when I'm editing volume curves with half-waveform displayed the waveforms flicker on and off as I move, sometimes disappearing then coming back a few seconds later. In my old version, they just sat there while you moved nodes on the volume curve.

Still, there we are. I'll be looking to change back, I think.

@AAProds, @pmikep

Hi Alwyn, Mike

. . . . It is a shame Magix (nerds in control) canned it's smart rendering of MPEG 2s . . . .

Definitely an out of date can 😬, the smart rendering option was dropped with the introduction of MEP 2016 leaving only Smart copy, which is still available in MMS 2023.

As has been discussed before Smart Rendering and Copy do have limitations on when it is actually used.

However under the right conditions it is very capable, eg I used Smart copy to create a BD disc in MEP from pre-rendered BD compatible .mts video files (32 movies total runtime approx 2hrs 15 mins) - total time to create and burn disc - 45 mins.

John EB

@AAProds

Hi Al.

No, Xe is inboard in both desktop and mobile processors, Arc is the graphics card which I pointed to for an explanation of Quick Sync as there is no explanation that I could find regarding that with information on the inboard Xe graphics pages. If you can find an explanation to that with regards to the Xe graphics die then I will amend my post above.

I was not suggesting both an Arc and nvidia card but a XE plus a graphics card, although two graphics cards could be used with that system. Not sure what the advantages would be though as the drivers for Arc are still apparently very buggy.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Xe is inboard in both desktop . . . .

According to Intels list of Xe GPU equiped processors, they are either mobile or embedded, no desktop CPU's are listed. Also see this article.

Quick Sync is Intel's brand name for the dedicated video encoding and decoding hardware core.

The Xe spec pages indicate that HWA acceleration for h.264 and h.265 is available, and there is confirmation here that the Arc chips are also using Quick Sync - scroll down to last but 2 paragraphs.

John EB

Hi John.

Thanks for the clarification.

I see now I should have put Intel® UHD Graphics for 11th Gen Intel® Processors or higher as they have the same capabilities. I assumed wrongly those processors had the same naming for their GPUs.

My point still stands that you really need both types of GPU (Intel as well as another Intel Quick Sync capable graphics card) to get the full benefit of the system. How far off target anyone would be without one or the other I have no idea.

Apologies to Al but I was at a cross purpose I think.

Ray.

Thanks, all, for your replies.

I don't know what "resizable bar" is. (I remember looking it up earlier this year when I saw that MS needed it. But I've since forgotten.) So I'm sure that my 'old' (stripped down) Dell PC Mobo doesn't have it.

Costco here has a sale on a new Dell PC with an 11th Gen i5 and Win11. ($550 USD.) But it has a small Power Supply, which I would have to upgrade (and trick to turn on - there's a special dongle needed to do it) to run a separate 3000-series graphics card. ($100 + $200?.) And I really, really don't want to 'upgrade' to Win11. (I have my stripped down ('ntlite'd) Win10 running very nicely, thank you, and don't want to spend the next two years debugging Win11.)

So even if MS 2023 were free, I'm not going to spend almost $1000 to upgrade to benefit from it. And besides, I keep reading of persistent bugs that haven't been fixed. (Although I have never run into them for what I do. But still, I don't want to pay for unfixed software.)

Ironically, this morning I received an email offer lowering the price of MS Platinum to $30 USD.

@pmikep

Hi mike.

Apparently a few (very few)9th gen motherboards can be set to resizable bar, but unless the processor can take advantage of that there seems little point. If you can get a Gen 3000 nvidia card between those price points please let me know 😂.

One or two earlier bugs have been fixed in the 2023 version and not 2022 or earlier.

As far as I'm aware only the nvidia 4080 and 4090 cards need that mod as they have separate connections to exchange data from smart power supplies so as to mange power requirements better when the GPU is under a heavy load. Technically there is little support from Microsoft for Win 10 any more and less support from Intel for 10 Gen CPUs and older. Although I too am running Win 10 I'm expecting to see what will effectively be Windows 12 within the next two years due to the changes in the last three generations of Intel and whatever gen AMD CPUs as AMD has had the ability to use resizable bar for longer than Intel.

Those of us who have not upgraded yet have seen the offers over the past few days. I personally think the VPX offer is actually better value and there could be an actual export time benefit over my copy of MEP2022. If it runs OK. I may try that next week.

Ray.

It seems that the bug list for VPX is much larger than for MS. But if it works for you and if Magix should offer me a $35 USD upgrade to VPX, I might consider it.

I was just guessing on prices for a 3000 series nvidia card. If they cost more than $200, then No Way.

The mod that I was talking about was to be able to use a conventional 300 W PS in a Dell. Apparently Dell has some custom stuff on their mobo (even the PS connectors are not conventional) and they have a different way of detecting when the power On button has been pushed. (Apologies for plural vs singular conjugation of verbs relative to companies. Here we say "Dell has ..." You all say "Dell have...")

@pmikep

Hi Mike.

I'm not aware of VPX having had more bugs than MEP / VPX. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will correct me.

The offer price is more for VPX. Nearer $60 than $35, but as a percentage against buying it normally is a much better offer. VPX, generation for generation against MEP has always exported faster and the code seems more developed as well as the basic included tools being more refined, no HEVC codec to buy, better audio handling, two monitor setup and now comes with a heap of included NB third party effects as standard and handles more file types than MS.

You have been away from video editing for a while. Prices and performance differences now have skyrocketed as well as power consumption which is even worse although 13gen Intel CPUs are now more efficient than the previous 12th gen and apparently twice as powerful again. At least if you believe the advertising and online benchmarks. Mileage as they say, may vary.

Now the nvidia 4000 series is out, some 3000 series cards have seen a price drop and the 3050 I believe is currently cheaper to buy than a 2060 and as powerful. At least in the UK.

Ray.

@pmikep

Hi Mike

. . . . when I saw that MS needed it . . . .

MMS does not 'need it,' however if it is implemented wth 2 GPUs (one can be an integrated GPU in the processor) that support Re-Bar then it can be used to enhance performance.

John EB.

The first thing I noticed after the installation of the latest version is no improvement, unfortunately. As usual, I imported a video which I shot with my DSLR camera and then I created the waveform in order to see the audio and synchronize it with the audio I recorded seperately with better equipment. But instead of the waveforms I used even this morning with an earlier version, the new version created just black blocks that do not indicate exact audio. Is there a "real" waveform available or do I have to downgrade in order to get it, it is essential and I do not want to give up on it.

@dirk-albrodt

Can you show us a screenshot of the timeline so we can see these black blocks? Do you have the video and audio on separate tracks?

My initial reaction is that the audio is "over-modulated", i.e., too loud if the waveform image is literally a series of solid blocks but without a screenshot that is merely a guess.

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Thank you for replying, this is the screenshot. The track above was taken by a Canon DSLR camera with a shotgun microphone, the track below with Rode podmic

@dirk-albrodt

Hi

From you image it looks like the file that is the overlay for the waveform display may be corrupt.

With the program closed use Windows File Explorer to browse to the folder where the video source files are and delete the files of the same name as the video files but with .H0 and .HDP file extension - see image below.

Please note that this topic is for feedback to Magix about the program, for future issues please create a new post/topic so your posts do not become lost in long topics such as this.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Indeed, that worked, I would never have thought of that myself, thank you very much!

MMS didn't make PC Mag's Review of Best Video Editors this year.

I am being offered an upgrade to Movie Studio 2023 Platinum, two question

1. is this a subscription or perpetual license?

2. i already have Movie studio 18 installed. will this upgrade my previous ver 18 or is the upgrade meaning since i already have a previous product. i would like to use both side by side. i downloaded the 30 day trial. waiting to install

Thanks in advance 👍

@Bill-the-repair-guy

I am being offered an upgrade to Movie Studio 2023 Platinum, two question

1. is this a subscription or perpetual license?

That is up to you to decide. You can choose either. Look at the Magix.com site - in detail. There are differences between perpetual and subscription.

2. i already have Movie studio 18 installed. will this upgrade my previous ver 18 or is the upgrade meaning since i already have a previous product. i would like to use both side by side. 

MS2023 Platinum is an upgrade to previous versions of Movie Studio. It will likely replace your version 18, assuming that your version 18 was also Platinum.

MS2023 has different hardware requirements that you may want to review first. It would have been better for you to create a new post rather than raise this question under "feedback..."

John CB

It would have been better for you to create a new post rather than raise this question under "feedback..."

John CB

Oops. (Because I ask something similar earlier.) I now see that I should have posted my version of the same question at https://www.magix.info/us/forum/anyone-uploading-the-2023-movie-studio--1305079/

@pmikep

Hi,

It's okay. It's just that these questions and the follow up get lost in the mass of feedback. Better to have a separate thread with an appropriate heading, making it easier to follow up, resolve, search for, and help others with similar questions/problems.

John CB

Is it me, or does this version not have the 'edit wheel' ?