@AAProds @Mimi-Steel

Hi Al.

I just tried the same file in VPX 12 and that did have native 5k resolution export support in HEVC and hardware encoding which was as fast as exporting MP4 in MEP (MS).

The pause was caused by my method of opening Task Manger. Ctrl + Shift+ Esc.

It was the nvidia card doing all the video encode / decoding. No idea if a Matrox GPU can do the same. The website seems to indicate it does. Anyone with a Matrox GPU to confirm?

Ray.

@CubeAce

Ray, does it matter? The file can be opened and exported. 5k or 4k isn't going to make a lot of difference as long as the bitrate is up there. It is only a GoPro video after all.

@AAProds

Hi Al.

It doesn't matter to me or you but I don't presume to know what @Mimi-Steel needs or wants quality wise.

Why chose 5k for recording when 4k or lower could have been chosen? Another is 5k may not be possible recording on the Go-Pro using MP4 as apparently it is not a supported resolution for MP4. One reason for needing the higher resolution could be to digital zoom in on the action when the dogs are working further away. I can say with experience of using that trick myself and then exporting to 1080p that process slows down the export further. I am only showing what happens on my system. On the plus side it had been the best behaved Go-Pro footage using H265 I have tried to date, so the camera settings seem fine. Working within MEP 2022 the playback has been exceptionally smooth. The export speed problem would persist using a lot of other editors on the market but not all as I saw using VPX.

Ray.

@Mimi-Steel,

Hi

Looking at your YT channel, are you exporting at 1080p resolution?

@CubeAce, @AAProds

Exporting to 5k (screenshot) and 4K downscaling, with correction for the lens, both take 14 secs on my laptop.

. . . . .  It is only a GoPro video after all. . . . .

There's a man tempting fate ! 😲

. . . . . The export speed problem would persist using a lot of other editors on the market but not all as I saw using VPX. . . . .

Export to HEVC 1080p with same correction as above - 4 secs.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

That's even better news if the difference in export time is in the variation of the new program compared to my one gen behind version and not the difference between your nvidia GPU and my own. Your card is rated 50% more powerful than my own.

Ray.

Lagging, freezing and crashing? The issue may be Microsoft One Drive.

When I first logged onto my brand new computer I was blind to the fact that Microsoft Windows set up my user account in One Drive, which a cloud server storage network running through my already sketchy wireless broadband connection. My bandwidth gets throttled from time-to-time.

In the Program Settings, I changed all of my folder links to a local external Sandisk SSD.

The test edit I did yesterday was a disaster, but I repeated the steps after performing this change and it worked with no problems this morning. We shall see.

Timeline Playback Cursor Behavior

Currently when I preview a scene and stop the playback with the Space Bar, the cursor jumps back to where it was instead of stopping at the point where I stopped it.

It might be right in front of me, but I can't seem to find where to change this.

@fred-slocombe

Program settings , playback tab.

Ray.

Found it. Thank you.

Greetings

If this is the wrong place to post this comment I apologise. I used this topic because i think this is feedback.

I'm a little confused. Since before Movie Studio 2023 was released I've been badgered to buy it by Magix for £59.99 (English Pounds) to include Mercalli 6.

Then a couple of weeks ago I was pestered by Magix to buy it for £63.99 to include something else but can't remember what because I deleted the emails.

For the past couple of days I've been emailed saying it's the final days of the offer inviting me to purchase Movie Studio Suite at £63.99 to include Mercalli 6 again.

This morning I've been informed that it's "Black Weeks" and I can upgrade to Movie Studio 2023 Suite for £29,99 but with no Mercalli or any other extras mentioned. I assume the coupon that's offered is for the NewBlue 5 Stylizers & Essentials that comes with the standard purchase during "Black Weeks". I already have those.

For £29.99 I think I may be persuaded.

AndyW

ps has £29.99 always been the price to upgrade or is this a genuine offer?

@me_again

Hi Andy.

I have given up on trying to find out what price the next offer will be on the Magix site but this would not be unusual. I have checked the price in my own account and it it genuine.

Ray.

@me_again

HI Andy,

I received the same offer. Go to Magix.com. No details given.

John CB

@browj2

Hi John.

The details are on the logged in upgrade ordering page.

Ray.

@browj2 @CubeAce

Thanks John & Ray,

I swallowed my pride and upgraded to MS2023, well at virtually half price I couldn't really refuse, and it had NewBlue Stylizers 5 Ultimate and Essentials 5 Ultimate included.

The installation of MS2023 went well as did the installation of the 2 NewBlues, although I already have Stylizers installed - it seems to have added 3 extra effects.

However NewBlue Essentials 5 is playing silly b*****s in that it loads, the effects work but it's not activatiing for some reason and the effects show a watermark. MEP has no activation button to press, and my account at NewBlue shows the serial number but states no activations on this computer.

I've sent an email to NewBlue to see what they think. I was going to raise a ticket with Magix as well but I thought I'd wait for a reply from NewBlue first as there are comments on here that they have the occasional problem.

Not really tried MS2023 yet

AndyW

I'm still not sure if I'm in the right forum to post this. My original post stated that after updating to Movie Studio 2023, I found that the program would always freeze as soon as I would move an object on the timeline. I was advised to use MediaInfo, which I have, and here are the specs of the object in question:
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1)
File size                                : 736 MiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 8 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-10-06 10:00:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-10-06 10:00:09

I am not the only one having this kind of problem, according to other posts in this forum. I reverted back to my previous version of Magix, as the upgrade to studio 2023 had proven to be useless.

 

@Duke-Marsh

Hi

. . . . I'm still not sure if I'm in the right forum to post this. . . . .

You are in the correct forum, however you have commented in another topic which is for feedback on Movie Studio 2023.

Please start a new topic (post) here using the New Post button top right of the page.

The MediaInfo information you have provided above does not give us the information we require on the video file - follow the tutorial I linked to and post all the MediaInfo data.

Thanks

John EB

I, too, recently received an upgrade offer - $35 USD.

I haven't used 'Movie Studio' in ages. (Although for a minute last week I loaded a file that I ripped from a DVD. MS stuttered something terrible.) For what I do, a competitor's editor (which has SVRT) is fine. Although I like MS's Editor better.

But being kind of a computer geek, I'm always interested good technology.

Am I going to notice any performance improvements with my "old" system if I pay $35 to upgrade? (i5-9400, GTX Super 1650.)

I never use the NewBlue stuff. So I don't care if the deal includes those or not. I would want to see a 50% improvement in rendering time to make it worth it.

@pmikep

Hi Mike.

Check if your motherboard supports resizable bar. If it doesn't I doubt you will get the advertised speed difference as the advertising as always say's 'speeds up to'. Also ideally you would need CPU with a chiplett design like an 11th Gen Intel®™ Processor with Intel Iris Xe Dedicated Graphics and a 3000 series nvidia card that can also take full advantage of the Quick Sync Video technology system. Win 11 would also be good to be running to take full advantage of Direct X 12 ultimate.

However that is not to say some improvements have not been made and some patches exist for old problems not sorted in the 2022 version. For what it is worth I am still running MEP 2022.

Long time, no see.

Ray.

Given the upgrade offer price of £23, I felt it was finally time to cough up and update my 2016 Movie Edit Pro.

I now have Movie Studio 2023 Platinum. it takes easily four times as long to load, opening a file takes approx 10 times as long as it did before, and (what I use most often during editing) right-clicking on a transition takes approx 5 seconds to open the context menu instead of appearing immediately - perhaps because it has graphic elements in it now? A proper nuisance.

Preview of a series of videos on the timeline is just as jerky as it ever was, and gets held up at every cross-fade transition. Woe betide the user with more than one clip running overlaid with effects (such as cookie cutter with faded edges on a reduced-size clip which you want to move around the screen while the background clip remains constant). I have changed the preview display options accordingly - these weren't ported across from my previous version and it took me a good while to figure them out again. No difference.

Export of an mpg takes approx 1.5 times as long as it did previously. 30 minutes for a 10 minute 1920x1080 29fps file compiled from video clips with the same properties, rather than max 20 minutes previously.

A non-useful thing is that mp4 clips display in the chooser box with a little pink icon to the left of them in the "Details" view. Once I've used a clip, it gets a litttle red dot on it which is hard to see against the pink background. Couldn't it just have been left grey? Perhaps I can change the colour somewhere, I'll look.

I still don't see an option to select all clips "from this point to the end", which means inserting a clip in the middle of a project is still a cumbersome process. That alone would have been worth the asking price.

Most importantly, the whole thing looks exactly the same (except icons being used here and there instead of plain text to slow things down), and appears to do exactly the same things - just a lot slower.

I was looking forward to using the new Travel Route app, because the one in my old version had stopped working (licensing iussues with the maps?). Unfortunately, when I try to add a Google Earth KMZ file it wheezes for a minute then just closes itself down, as if pretending nothing happened. A GPX file that I created by merging a series of GPXs from my dashcam (which works perfectly well in Google Earth) shows me only the final destination rather than the route track, with the little car spinning in circles. Disappointed.

Finally, if I try to open "Help", I get "Failed to open app".

So far, I think I'd rather have saved my 23 quid. Is there a way of reversing the installation and returning to my old software that worked properly?

@Hengist

Hi.

Have you come from using a previous version of Vegas Movie Studio?

If so you should be aware that the minimum hardware requirements are a lot higher than for Vegas MS 17 and earlier.

I ask because the 'red dot' as you describe it has been a part of the current program (previously marked as either Movie Edit Pro or Video Deluxe in Europe) for some generations of the program now.

Colour schemes can not be changed within the program. It sounds like you are on a machine that is possibly at least seven years old. That could be a problem for response times when using the program but a lot would depend on the components used in the build.

Refunds will vary from one country to another depending on the consumer rights of that country. To try for a refund try emailing infoserve@at magix.net.

Ray.

Ray.

Have you come from using a previous version of Vegas Movie Studio

@CubeAce Actually mention was made of updating from 2016 Movie Edit Pro, not VMS.

Sadly Magix, and other comparable editors, are in my opinion pushing themselves out of the consumer market. Their software increasingly requires high spec machines above what the average consumer home user with a moderately priced machine has, especially if it's a few years old. I only makes a few videos a year so cannot justify spending more on a high spec system and I only replace my pc when it starts to wear out. Usually after six years.

@ericlnz

Hi Eric.

Missed that in the first line.

A business has to move forward to generate cash or die. That is the consumer model, 😉👍 love it or hate it.

They can't rely on people buying add on products such as templates or realistically charge for updates to cure code that should have worked in the first place.

Also they have to make programs capable of supporting newer hardware and operating system changes which in turn are made to support the manufactures of those products who are also trying to acquire more purchases of their products to keep their workers in employment.

Six years is below industry standard. Think more three years from their viewpoint. Unfortunately from the consumer standpoint, your six year proposal is probably seen as too soon.

There are a lot of falsehoods that the industry never started but consumers did regarding the use of computers and more so regarding digital photography and digital videography.

My two favorites are.

The idea that everything should be backwards compatible to me is the lie we tell ourselves. Certainly the industry has never hinted it should be.

People on the internet were always saying 'Digital photography is brilliant because once you have the equipment you never have to pay for processing again'. People have also seemingly moved that idea across to video editing as well, neither taking on the unrelenting pace of industry standards changing as we go from processors having millions to billions of transistors in both products.

Although you don't see the second one mentioned too much today on the net, the idea I think is still in the back of our minds and is the source of resentment when we find out none of it is remotely true.

Thankfully we are never likely to see 8k television in Europe at least for some time but the computer world is driven by gaming and not video editing by a wide margin, so computer specs will still advance at the rapid current rate, along with video camera capabilities on phones at least if not actual dedicated cameras that try to stay ahead of the phone market to prevent themselves from becoming redundant. The latter being a losing battle.

The result is that photography and serious videography will become as as it was when it was first invented as both serious cameras and the resulting software capable of handling them become more expensive to produce and the market share shrinks until the second 'Golden age' comes to fruition.

That at least is my take on the subject in general.

Intel has now dropped support for 10th gen processors and older as the newer chiplett dies come into the mainstream to compete against Apples offerings. Nvidia and AMD already have two generations of compatible graphics cards and Windows may yet go to Windows 12 sooner than later.

As the general globalised market has slowed down due to recent unfortunate world events, this may slow things down a bit but personally I don't think by much as processors requirements are still improving for other market uses other than public consumerism.

Ray.