@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

Take no notice of me. I was just throwing in an angle from someone who has spent most of his (wasted?) life in pursuit of performance.

I am not saying that these are tasks everyone should tackle but as much as we like to think that a computer's hardware should perform it's tasks from day one with next to no maintenance needed, for years of use, through many iterations of complex and demanding software, the sad fact is that it needs fettling from time to time to keep it on top of it's game.

Bios has become a lot less scary with UEFI interfaces and EZ Flash and recovery utilities, and I would suggest that it would need to be a pretty customised bios that would not give you a working system when set to Defaults, but if like most people you felt it was beyond you then take it to a computer technician or enlist someone like your son as you have done.

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

No, I'm stubborn I am and will continue to read and try to learn and try to get independent of my son eventually. 😀

Yes, UEFI and Easy bios has helped me a great deal and the actual bios interface is a huge improvement to my last set of bios screens. I still don't know what half of the connecting pins on my motherboard do or are for or how much stress I can put onto one power supply cable plus another half dozen things I'm still not sure about but I will learn.

Ray.

@browj2

Hi John

. . . . I have found that opening up the computer case once a year and vacuuming and blowing out the dust improved performance . . . .

That is good practice and no you are not imagining that the performance is better - the heatsinks get clogged/covered with dust and the heat transfer rate drops, sometimes dramatically, resulting initially in the cooling fan speeds ramping up, and if bad enough, the processor and/or GPU clock speed ramping down to avoid overheating. You may even notice that the fan noise is less after a good clean.

John EB

Hi all,

Ray, you have enough material here for a book.

The screen rf problem was just dust on the screen. I now keep a Swiffer in my office to dust the screen, the desk and other places where dust quickly collects. That reminds me, my Surface Pro screen looks just terrible with fingerprints all over it. No, wait, the light isn't hitting it right so it looks fine.

John EB, I just hate crawling under my desk, removing all of the umpteen wires, opening the computer and dusting.

My computer is getting quite old now (who isn't). A few years ago, I replaced the RAM, upping it to 16GB, and replaced the failing main drive with an SSD. I had to reinstall almost everything. I updated the graphics card driver to the latest one that works, but AMD keeps sending me updates that I don't think actually install as the card is too old.

The only disks that I've burned in the last 2 years are backups of video and image files on BR disks. Burning DVD's with my external ASUS was a failure as many people complained about not being able to play the DVD's. Strange, they work fine on our 3 DVD/BR players, but as soon as they leave the house... My one BR that I did for someone else didn't work on his BR player, only on mine. I tried different types and makes of disks. So there is another thing to consider if you have a new burner: testing to see if the burned DVD's and BR's work on various players.

My office is upstairs and susceptible to external noise when I record audio, including some background noise from the computer and external hard drives. I now have a noise print in VPX for the DeNoiser for the mic in my office. You may want to do the same with the new set up. Just record nothing, then record voice with some blank areas, create the noise print in the DeNoiser, save it with an appropriate name, test it to make sure that the absorption and reduction do not distort your voice, and save the result.

I also have a problem recording as a dog will bark, a phone will ring, a noisy car or truck will go past, etc.

And, this morning Bernadette was greeted by white dust outside. Just the start of the winter season.

Mondays!

John CB

@browj2@browj2

First, fans can suffer from dust I agree but on average seem the most robust of components. I have more fans than I know what to do with so I rotate them taking some out and replacing them with ones I've cleaned. I don't do it that often though.Fans that look like the sides of a golf ball are quieter but less effective. Ones with ridges along the blades seem to be quiet and effective. There are a total of six small fans on my case. Three pushing air in and three sucking it out. Then the fan for the CPU and one for the GPU and one for the power supply which very rarely comes on. I also have acoustic panels on the inside of the case all the way around and I don't get much more than a whisper out of it. It is probably quieter with the i9 in it than when I was running the i5 as the whole thing runs much cooler now.

Do you use DVD+ or DVD- disks? I've always used DTK disks with no problems, not that I do it often. Most DVD players use - disks. At least in my part of the world. Second I would say never use a fast speed to record and avoid too much multitasking while burning. I've never had an Asus burner. I've had Sony, Yamaha, LG, and currently an HP unit.

As for leads under the desk 😆 I've had to wire my editing room an a separate mains loop with its own circuit breaker. As a list of everything I can switch on but not have activated unless I need it.

PC: 2 monitors, printer, DVD/CD printer (Prints onto the face of disks) three amplifiers, two turntables, two graphic equalisers. One tuner, one mini disk player. One CD player, one cassette deck, one VHS VCR plus TV and converter for PC. One open reel Revox. A 12 into 2 analogue mixing desk, a 4 into two analogue mixing desk. Currently missing from the mix is my 5.1 surround system.

No, I don't go under or at the back of my desk either. I don't even know how many redundant cables I have hanging at the back. I'm leaving that job for when I retire at which point I'll have a good clean out.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . .fans can suffer from dust . . . .

Bigger fans are better - they shift more air at a slower speed and are easier to clean. My power pack and the case fans(2) are all 5" and you do not hear them running when the internal case temperature rises, the fan that does make audible noise when spun up to full speed is the CPU's.

For my 2 cents worth:

. . . . Do you use DVD+ or DVD- disks . . . .

For DVD I use Verbatim DVD-RW and Ritek full face printable DVD-R discs - never had one fail yet or be unplayable in a variety of players.

For Blu-Ray I use Verbatim BD-RE and full face printable BD-R for movies over 25 - 30 mins and the above Riteks for movies less than 30 mins - and yes you can burn BD to DVD discs direct from MEP and VPX and also BD ISO images - my preferred method using Nero - the only thing you do have to do is tell Nero to burn a DVD disc not BD after that it does not care what the actual file structure is.

My burners are DVD - Pioneer and LG, Bluray - LG.

. . . . I've always used DTK . . .

I presume you mean TDK.

. . . . As for leads under the desk . . . .

I have a corner computer desk and extension with the PC's and UPS on hangers, all wiring is in cable trays screwed to the underside of the desk and bundled in cable tidies - all from IKEA. Power strips are also screwed to the underside of the desk - no cables on the floor - makes for happy hoovering 😁.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I don't disagree that larger fans are quieter and my fans are only 3" but they are very quiet and running on a monitored speed controller. If I'm working with no sound on in my room I can hear my smartphone text 'microwave ping' go off in the kitchen twenty feet and two rooms away and my room is soundproofed from noises outside of the house but if I leave my room's door open I can hear anything else going on in the house. That is not to say the PC's silent, it isn't, but I record with mics in my room from time to time and they don't pick up the PC noise until a normal voice would be too loud played back to be comfortable, and the PC is on my desk to one side, not underneath. I could I suppose change the smaller fans to larger ones but if I needed absolute silence I'd record to mini-disk. Because the room is so quiet though I accept that I can hear my PC until I go past the door of my room where suddenly it cuts off.

Yes I did mean TDK but the spell check refuses to accept either 😢.

Verbatim work but I'm not sure about shelf life. TDK use a metal substrate and not dyes so I've tended to stick to those in the past. I'm sure all makes have improved a lot over the time since I last bought any so I can't comment on current disk life spans. Talking of which, cleaning the DVD/Blu-ray out is also a good idea from time to time. The great thing about having an artist airbrush is I can direct both the width and force of the air jet. Since normal magnetic storage became cheaper and on the whole somewhat more reliable as storage,( Well at least easier to check for corruption than running through hundreds of disks) I've dropped using DVD or Blu-Ray and prefer using memory sticks to plug into TVs over Blu-Ray even though I buy the odd feature film now and again. That reminds me, I must get season three of The Expanse on Blu-Ray.

My audio gear has been in place for over 35 years. A bit longer than IKEA has been on our shores 😆 but as most of the cabling is at the back and sides of the desk where I can't see or trip over it I haven't found it an issue so far, beyond that of remembering what is exactly plugged into what. My main problem was getting a mains supply from the main board above me in the garage where I had to drill through a foot of concrete to get to my sound room.

Not that it matters. My floor plan to this room is 7 feet six inches by 10 feet by seven feet six inches in height and my desk that is one foot away from one end is 6 feet six inches width by four feet six inches length. U shaped with two feet wide worktops all round. Side walls have six inches of RockWool behind 12" acoustic tiles. Ceiling is seven feet above me with another three feet above that with more RockWool above the false ceiling. The one foot of space in front of my desk has a floor to ceiling shelving unit I made from mahogany (from repurposed school lockers and desks from the 50s) and houses about a third of my Album and CD collection. I have to stand on my desk to get to most of it. It was my first DIY project when we moved in.

I can run cables out into the kitchen for mics and a more live sounding environment when needed. Not that I've recorded much live music in the past fifteen years. Most of my friends that played together have now moved to other parts of the country. So initially the room was built as a control room for recording audio to tape and the PC came later when I started photography and now video or until recently, it was my personal home cinema which without the benefit of the 5.1 sound system I prefer to watch in the lounge with a larger screen now.

As for hoovering. I have to get on my hands and knees to do that and to get to the lower shelves of that book case. Not easy 😩. I didn't really plan that far ahead 😔.

@Scenestealer @johnebaker@johnebaker

Latest Update.

Hurrah! Nearly completely finished now.

I finally got the DVD drive up and running. I put the old and I think cheap and unbranded PCie card with the IDE interface on it to work. I just changed the slot it was in but put the card in on its own and booted. It can up as unidentified but no sign of it not working. So then after turning off I connected the DVD drive and added power to the drive and rebooted. Hey-Presto, a DVD drive correctly identified and ready to go.

So I first tried putting CD in to play and immediately panicked when no sound came out. Then I realised I hadn't turned my amp on 😊. So far, so good. So then I loaded my Asus support disk and added various monitoring programs and added driver updates and then checked they were the latest drivers on the Asus site. Now I'm rockin' and emboldened. I get my copy of Cubase out from its dusty box and place the disk in. It reads but doesn't auto load the program. No problem. I open the drive folders and find the windows install section but then realise I should probably read the 'Read Me First file' as I have a vague memory I may have forgotten something.

I'm Glad I did as it reminded me not to have the SycroSoft Authentication dongle placed in the PC when I load the program. Took the activation key out of the PC. and clicked the exe. file. W*!*F? I get 'Windows Cannot Open This File' (or something along those lines) No I don't have the latest version of Cubase but it ran on Win 7 and is a 64bit program so why won't it load?????????????

A quick panic search of the net showed that right clicking such an exe. file and use the 'Open in compatibility Mode' (Needs Administrative Rights) should do the trick. It Did. Cubase then started to load all content. Cubase was fine, it was the loading program that needed the compatibility mode. Houde hav thunk it?

Anyway it was loading well when I got an interruption to the download with some sort of warning saying another program was stopping a part of the download and I needed to close down the program and start again.

I had already checked (or so I thought) than nothing else was running. Do you know what it was? Magix Network Sync.

So I tried again. Success! Rebooted the PC to make sure everything was loaded and inserted the SyncroSoft Dongle. Started Cubase and a 'NO AUTHORISATION CODE' came flashing up. Looked at the transparent Dongle and it's little red LEDs were flashing away as they always did so went to the SyncroSoft eLicenser program I had installed a few days before to see the issue. I should have five keys from previous versions as well as the current one on there. So I shut down Cubase while trying to see what was wrong.

First problem was it asked me for an activation code. So first the first thing to always remember is whether you have a hard copy or downloaded version of a program that needs activation codes is to have a printed copy somewhere. I dutifully entered my activation code and waited to the key to be updated.

This is what I got back.

Hmmm! Only the last version showing. Not surprising as the earlier versions are not on this machine and are 32 bit programs anyway so of limited use. (Yes I've blocked off my serial license number as unlike some other programs you can de-active the license and then sell the program on, unlike most other software.) The great thing I like about Steinberg is it is very good at allowing its customers complete control. With the key I can get to Steinbergs ftp servers and download anything I've bought in the past as well as get to the relevant updates I want or don't want. It's only been when operating systems don't allow or accommodate earlier coding that parts of the software won't work. Even then there is a community of people that produce open source and free downloads to help out where possible. Remember it was Steinberg that opened VST to everyone. Anyway, enough of stating why I like some software over other software where there is a choice.

So, opening Cubase again and Viola! Now it will only take me about another ten months of setting the thing up!

Now, as I don't have a working sound-card compatible with Win 10 I opened the ASIO section to see if anything was available. Thereupon was a surprise,well at least to me.

I knew Magix must be using an asio driver but had no idea they had developed their own. Is it also used in MEP as well as Music Maker? I guess it must do. Just no option to change to another asio driver in MEP.

Anyway. I can now monitor the PC more closely than before, set alarms if need be etc.

One thing I found out that I didn't know before is that the PCH Chipset (the successor to the Intel Hub Architecture, which used a northbridge) often gets hotter than the CPU or GPU.

So I went online to see if is a problem or could be one. The only reference I found online came from gamers using the same series of motherboards I'm using and the only advice was to make sure there was plenty of ventilation around the area or an additional fan if needed.

So I made a 4K video project to load and export to see what the readouts would be like.

Not too bad as I haven't been tempted to even try overclocking the system. But I can also monitor GPU and CPU speeds as well as individual core loads in real time.

So there you go.

All that's left to do now is await the M.2 drives and get the programs talking to each other. That will probably be my last update to this topic.

I tried to get Music Maker to find external VST plugins from Cubase but the dialogue box I remember seeing before to search for additional plugins is either missing or I've got a different version of the program this time around. Not sure which yet. X-Phraze, my favorite soft synth, loaded with no hassle at all. Now no longer available, it has a unique set of sounds and settings that still sound good after all this time.

Anyway, thanks for all the earlier help guys and if nothing else I feel more confident if the system falls over in future of being able to sort it out on my own.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray.

Great to hear that you are (almost) now running at full capacity!

I knew Magix must be using an asio driver but had no idea they had developed their own. Is it also used in MEP as well as Music Maker?

I don't think it is. At least, I've never seen it as an option within the driver window of either MEP or VPX. (I've just checked VPX again and it's not there.)

HTH

Jeff

@emmrecs

You may be right Jeff but one choice is to use System X and another I think is EAX while only one gives an option of using more than one buffer which is normally associated with ASIO but I'm willing to concede I may be wrong as it hasn't picked up on my copy of ASIO4ALL. There again, the audio in the PC must be capable of using ASIO to show up. The motherboards audio is ASIO compatible thankfully as I prefer using ASIO as I can then use the rewire function.

It's interesting to note that Music Makers Effects rack looks identical to MEPs though, assuming Music Makers effects are VST based.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

That encode seems very slow - 6 minutes to render 1 minute of MP4. Are you sure HW encoding is actually happening? What sort of load are the two GPU's showing?

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

The beginning and end of that video is very graphics intensive Peter with a lot of effects thrown in, about ten seconds of each at either end. That's when it slows down right down. I'm convinced that is where the NVIDIA card seems to be doing more processing than the Intel graphics chip and where it literally crawls almost to a standstill. The rest is done much faster and that estimated processing time you see drops as it goes along but then increases again as the end graphics kick in. It doesn't seem to matter whether it is exporting at 4K or HD. Render times are more about the render quality settings. If I leave everything on MEPs own settings it is much quicker but the uploads to YouTube are much worse to look at when played back over the net.

Things may improve with a higher spec graphics card. I'm surprised my current card is doing anything at all but it will do until I can afford to upgrade it.

Here are the two offending parts.

Actually I put the wrong start in. The newer opening has two more effects added to the background hexagons to make the colours do a galaxy swirl but you get the idea.

@CubeAce

Excellent effects! I think that you're a good candidate for BluffTitler.

To speed things up, especially if you have to export a project several times (my case), I suggest that you do the Intro and Outro in separate movies, export to mxv, and use the mxv files in the main movie.

John CB

@browj2@browj2

Hi John.

Thank you.

I may have one more go at the beginning of that one as the intention was to get the word TECH to have a beat movement to the music, A bit like a heartbeat but at the time I did it I was still and still having audio to video sync problems with the audio stutter at slow speeds. It makes using the Keyframe editor almost impossible for precise editing and have to rely a lot on visually inspecting the waveform of the audio to get positioning.

I use the project as a template. When it fades to black is where the footage fades in. I edit a two minute piece in place and then export the whole thing.

Can you use external fonts in BluffTitler? That may tip it for me. Otherwise I prefer to use MEP as I have a lot of fonts on there which I could animate in other ways. I'm sure it takes more time and slows down the export but I can alter things more easily when I need to tweak then within a project.

I confess I may not use MEP the way other people do.

I was wrong about one thing. My graphics card is doing next to nothing and all is handled by the Intel chip.

Here is the layout of that portion of the project.

That is showing which bit of the PC is doing what.

Those are the amount of track involved.

This is the proper beginning with the background colour swirl. .

[Edit] Video now changed to correct one. (I didn't get it right the first time)

This is what the Intel chip was doing. Doesn't seem overtaxed.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

BluffTitler can use almost any font. Whatever is in your Windows Fonts should be accessible. However, what you can do with text, photos, video clips and effects is simply amazing.

For accuracy in lining things up, do you use snap markers (Ctrl+P) to help? Place one on the audio track where you want something else to start, like the text, and the text will snap to the marker when you move it. Put a snap marker in the text object where it should line up with the snap marker in the audio, and drag the text and the snap markers will snap into place.

If you have keyframes for size/position on an object, turn on the curves in the Timeline. Go to the keyframe in the keyframe area, the playback marker will be at the right place on the timeline, Ctrl+P to put in a snap marker. Etc.

On the main topic of a new setup, I recently added a smoke detector in my office above the area where I have the power bars.

As for cooling the computer, Greta Thunberg came to Canada and solved global warming. Now we're freezing (8 inches of snow on Monday, -11C yesterday felt like -20C). I use my computer to heat my office.

Cable trays - hmmm. My system needs some work.

Turn the image upright.

John CB

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Yes very nice intro sequence and seeing the timeline SS certainly explains the slow rendering, for the first 7 seconds anyway but maybe not for the simpler(?) talking head shots. It is certainly not untypical for intros like that to clobber all of the rendering hardware components at a time when you would have thought they should all be pulling together, still there doesn't seem to be much happening on the Intel in any of your ScreenSs. I ask again if you are sure HW encoding is actually occurring on your Intel GPU as I have seen cases where it is reported in the mixdown window but it is not a happening thing. Have you tried the same render with the Calculate VFX on GPU unticked? Which plugin were you using to create the titling?

Render times are more about the render quality settings. If I leave everything on MEPs own settings it is much quicker but the uploads to YouTube are much worse to look at when played back over the net.

Do you mean the quality settings in Advanced in the export window? I tend just to use Balanced or Better as I could not see any quality difference in Best when I tested with 50P HD material some time back but Best did make export slower and Fast did not make it much faster. I admit that I do very little YT uploading though.

I am a little intrigued about your stuttering audio problems though as I have never really experienced this and I think Magix coming from an audio software background have always seemed to have given smooth audio the priority over picture. I presume you have Wave Driver instead of Direct Sound selected in your Program Settings?

@browj2

Looking at your wiring setup I might suggest 2 smoke detectors!!

Thanks for the tips about the snap markers as I have not delved into their usefulness.

Greta....!.I like to go up to young people and say "How dare you take away our single use plastic bags". Mine never got used only once and I am bereft without them, plus I am now having to go out and buy plastic bags to use only once in my waste bucket. I grew up in a household where my mother never threw a plastic bag away. We had a huge draw full of them. Something has changed.

Peter

@browj2

Hi John.

That sounds what I might be after. If it reads the Windows fonts section as well then it works with fonts in a similar way to Photoshop CS6 (I stopped updating when they when online only). Can I sync what I create to a soundtrack within the program?

The keyframes in MEP I could work with if I could get a smooth slow-mo playback, which I can't, and at normal speed playback my reaction time isn't fast enough, and the frames are too jumpy to see how it will play back in real time. Some things are easy to do fast in real time but changing expansion rates of a graphic within a frame back and forth doesn't appear to be one of them.

I don't know if a dedicated sound card would solve at least the stuttering audio but I doubt it as the scroll wheel and slow motion playback of audio in Cubase is excellent. It could be that the audio is spat out in chunks equaling a frame length in MEP, I don't know. I would prefer a lower frequency, continuous audio playback in MEP in slow-mo rather than it being kept at the original soundtrack frequency and in chunks. I edited tape on open reel machines for years so that seems a much more natural way of working to me.

I have the same problem with using curves. If I expand to the point where drawing a curve is easy, it's impossible to make sense of the waveform visually. I know what you mean about using markers as well. If I could colour them it might be useful so I could tell if it's somewhere to expand or contract a frame. When I try do do a lot of movement over a short time interval I find it easy to get lost. I know there is a limit to the shortest period of time I can edit to as there is only so much movement you can do from frame to frame.

I do use keyframes a lot but sometimes depending on the effect it isn't always easy to work with.

The back of your PC seems OK to me 😏. I just counted eighteen leads coming out of the back of mine and two from the top.

My room is underground (Garage above me) and doesn't suffer from too much heat or cold as the room was originally the boiler room before I divided it about two thirds down to lose the boiler noise.

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

Yes very nice intro sequence and seeing the timeline SS certainly explains the slow rendering, for the first 7 seconds anyway but maybe not for the simpler(?) talking head shots. It is certainly not untypical for intros like that to clobber all of the rendering hardware components at a time when you would have thought they should all be pulling together, still there doesn't seem to be much happening on the Intel in any of your ScreenSs. I ask again if you are sure HW encoding is actually occurring on your Intel GPU as I have seen cases where it is reported in the mixdown window but it is not a happening thing. Have you tried the same render with the Calculate VFX on GPU unticked? Which plugin were you using to create the titling?

I hadn't, but I've just tried and both GPUs are hardly registering and the export time has now tripled. It does speed up when the graphics stop quite considerably. Also notice the jump up in CPU usage.

The titling was from a 3D titling option and I had another two effects on the two sets of yellow titles to both warp and change the text size and position at the same time(using the keyframe editor). Then the background colour overlay was also warped at the same time to produce a colour swirl within the hexagon background as well as introducing a slight colour shift during the swirl. Then at the end, the vibrating, hexagons were individually cut up alternately expanded and contracted and faded to produce the shimmer effect as the last chord of the music died away. (That bit was easy and quite quick to do)

Render times are more about the render quality settings. If I leave everything on MEPs own settings it is much quicker but the uploads to YouTube are much worse to look at when played back over the net.

Do you mean the quality settings in Advanced in the export window? I tend just to use Balanced or Better as I could not see any quality difference in Best when I tested with 50P HD material some time back but did make export slower and Fast did not make it much faster. I admit that I do very little YT uploading though.

Yes, those settings, and I agree there is next to no difference between better and best to my eye either except when you upload to YouTube. Then, whatever they do to it hits the quality hard, producing quite large blocks of colour where there should be detail as well as colour banding in some sky sections and other large background areas that have similar exposure variations across the frame.

I am a little intrigued about your stuttering audio problems though as I have never really experienced this and I think Magix coming from an audio software background have always seemed to have given smooth audio the priority over picture. I presume you have Wave Driver instead of Direct Sound selected in your Program Settings?

Yes I have wave driver selected with four buffers set to 65536 on multi-track and multi-cam, and the Auto-scroll during playback set to slow which is easier to hear than when set to fast but still not great. I suppose the word stutter is technically wrong, it's more like the the same block of audio is repeated a number of times before the next block of sound gets released. As I replied to John CB, I think it's because MEP is keeping the audio at the same frequency rather than playing it back at the lower frequency a slow scroll should produce so it gets released in blocks rather than as a continuous audio file. I think that's the crux of the matter. Why Magix chose to do it that way I'm not sure. Maybe it has to be done that way so audio can only be edited to the frame if a frame came half way through the sound of a kick drum for instance. I really don't know. A 24th of a second shouldn't be noticed audibly to visually if out by that much so don't understand why the audio seems to be behaving that way.

If I scroll back and fourth across a section to narrow down the spot I want to alter, I also introduce lag in the audio so I'm never sure which drumbeat I've heard (as at that point I may hear the next beat while actually moving the timeline backwards) and as you may have noticed on that particular soundtrack some of the drum sounds are very close together and similar in sound. Another audio track may be much easier to edit to.

So a revision of what I told John CB above.

If the buffer size seems excessive, I spent a long time getting it not too large or small . Too small and the audio sounds like it's coming from a low quality vocoder. Too large and as I add more tracks I get longer response times from the playback controls. Adding more buffers and less buffer size sometimes trips the project into freezing the controls but will continue to playback until I force a stop with task manager.

Ray.

@CubeAce

BluffTitler with audio, like this?

Scroll down in the link below to see some of the things that can be done.

https://www.outerspace-software.com/audiolayer

There is a steep learning curve, but plenty of help on the forum and plenty of templates to play with that come with the program. No or little need to buy the packs.

In MEP, I was thinking along the lines of using the curves as the nodes correspond to the keyframes, and then lining them up with snap markers on the music. There is a snap marker on the audio object just to the left of the playback marker.

John CB

@browj2

OK John.

That is very impressive but can it be overlaid to video rather than stills? I only see still images being used in the examples or animated backgrounds. I do like the motion to sound though. Very smooth looking.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Have you tried the same render with the Calculate VFX on GPU unticked? Which plugin were you using to create the titling?

 

I hadn't, but I've just tried and both GPUs are hardly registering and the export time has now tripled. It does speed up when the graphics stop quite considerably. Also notice the jump up in CPU usage.

Hi Ray

I didn't mean turn off HW acceleration altogether. I meant take out the tick next to "Calculate Video effects on the GPU" at the bottom of the MPEG4 export template window. The mixdown window should still say HW Encoding but it should all be happening on the Intel GPU via Quick Sync.

Peter

Hi Ray,

I'm another Bluff Titler fan. While John is no doubt sleeping off his latest snow-shovelling exhaustion I can answer your question with a Yes. Just export the appropriately prepared BT result and import into MEPP for the usual chroma key treatment.

Two screenshots from this long thread
https://www.magix.info/us/forum/logo-animations-with-mep-2017-are-there-any--1202512/
provide more detail:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1rrq6dc03izvob/ChangeBackground.txt.jpg?raw=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/syz7nypurohxurw/ChromaQueryJose-1.jpg?raw=1

Here's the full set of examples I made for José:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/51nx2ai9y2cfo4l/Jos%C3%A9-BluffTitler.mp4?raw=1

Terry