@johnbaker

On a separate note but still within the confines of a new system build query but more within the operating system side of the build.

The new build now plays 4K exports when I export them as MP4 files but won't play an HEVC exported file.

However, in Windows 10, I'm not sure what is playing the files back but I get this message instead.

So two questions. What is trying to play the file and would it be safe to but yet another HEVC codec to put on the system as it's potentially another codec pack that I know John Baker has warned against in the past.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

Pending expert advice from John, Peter and others I’d suggest first trying one of the other free players that I gather support HEVC, like PotPlayer or MPC-HC. And I think VLC too.

I don’t have an HEVC file but i use all of those three mentioned and if you can upload a sample I could test and report back.

Terry

Hi Ray,

That pop-up is for your actual Microsoft Windows 10, letting you able to "Utiliize" the HEVC codec on your system. You do not need to "Buy it" from the Microsoft Store. Use this , follow the video, and it will show you how to download for "FREE" and install. The guy, Barnacles Nerdgasm is a Former Microsoft Employee. He has lots of tips about Windows 10 on his channel.

Oh, and if you just need a M.2 PCI-e NVME drive for storage like your "source" files, and not using it for constantly reading/writing, if y'all have it at your PC Shop, try the Intel 660p SSD in 1 or 2 TB flavor. It is inexpensive here in the states (most places have the 2 TB at $179.99), and despite the "negativity" of its lower performance, especially once the drive has gotten "half-full", runs pretty good. I've got two on my "Signature" rig, and a 1 TB for Boot/OS/Apps on my other rig, with a 2 TB on that one for storage/work/source/scratch, etc. I have had all of them now for over 6 months and doing well.

And congratulations on that new machine. Seems the Intel i9-9900K is a popular CPU with a lot of editors, should they opt for the "Blue" Team. Guess "Big Red" Team builders are really going after the 1700x/1800x/2700x. To me, doesn't matter "which Team", as long as it gets the job done, for the price I was willing to pay. Heck, AMD Threadripper in one rig, an Intel Broadwell-e (High End Desktop - HEDT) in another!

Happy Editing!

Mike "The Chief" O'Sullivan

@terrypin@terrypin

Hi Terry.

Thanks for your thoughts as normally one reply kicks of another one and one thing I've learned over time is what works on one machine doesn't always work with another machine. Too many variations in PC building and setting up of operating systems and hardware almost makes it inevitable. I will try out Mike's suggestion first and see if it works as aac import into MEP now works on my new machine and didn't on my old one. Magix says there is no support for aac on their software so no idea why it should iether work or not.

Hi Mike.

I will check out that link and let you know how I get on. Thank you for the information.

I am fortunate in having a ready source I can call on for M.2 drives. I will have access to quite a large bunch of SanDisk ones that normally have a 5 year guarantee I think. Actually my son intends to set it up to use for the page filing system. Will see how it goes.

A lot of people think the i9900k is the middle of the road i9. It's much lower down the pecking order than that but I'm not Pixar or industry so those processors are off the table, even if they cost around £53,000 each.

Intel Broadwell-e? that's an old server processor isn't it? What board are you using with it? I thought server boards used four or more CPUs? Either way, interesting. 😃

My main thing at the moment is getting MEP to use the Intel graphics chip.

I think I know how to do it. I've just got to get around to doing it.

Thank you for the pointers gentlemen, but now I have to dash. I have a deadline and 500 still images to process.

Ray.

Hi Ray,

No, the "Broadwell-E" is for the older Intel X99 Platform (5820K, 5930K, 5960X, 6800K, 6850K, 6900K, and 6950X Processors). Though, some of the board partners did have support for using the Xeon Processors, something Intel "TOOK AWAY" for the X299 Platform. The X99 platform was released in August 2014, so now over 5 Years Old. Basically, it allowed for better SLI/Crossfire support due to the available PCI-e bandwidth and number of "Lanes" to the CPU. I'm running the "lower end" i7-6800K, which unlike it's bigger brothers', only has 28 PCI-e lanes directly to the chipset, compared to the 40 on its siblings. Just an upgrade to the older X58 and X79 platforms that you may have heard about. Really, what it helps with is using extra GPU(s), or more add-in cards like capture, RAID, etc. Just like how the current X370, X470, X570 (and stepped-down boards) from AMD are compared to the X399 "ThreadRipper" platform.

And I would not think of your processor (i9-9900K) as middle of the road. If it is doing what you need of it to do, for the price you wanted, then it is the "RIGHT" processor for you, no matter what all the Internet Troll Pundits say!

Heck, for an example of longevity, if you have seen posts from "Dr. Zen" of MovieStudioZen website (a.k.a. Derek Moran) - posted some about Acid Pro here on the Magix Forums - he is still using an old i7-2600K, of which I remember watching his build video!

So, who cares about the speed, how many FPS in games, or how fast it can render? If the quality, CONTENT, sucks, it doesn't matter and no one is going to watch your creation. I look at it this way, I can always hit render, then go watch a movie on the "boob-tube", do dishes, cook, clean, take a walk, read some more in a book, etc.

Mike

@CubeAce, @mmcswnavy24

Hi Ray, Mike

. . . . I'm not sure what is playing the files back but I get this message instead. . . . . .

That is the Films &TV app that comes with Windows 10, you can see the player controls at the bottom of the screen.

It is a replacement for Windows Media Player (WMP), however IMO it is not as good as WMP which is still available in Windows 10.

If you prefer WMP then you need to set this as your default player in Windows 10.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

@mmcswnavy24

@terrypin

New developments.

I have found all the relevant emails and found I paid for both of the extra codecs and have the activation codes.

They no longer work on the new machine. Possibly because it will be recognised as a new machine and possibly not owned by me. Not Magix's fault as such. I tried Mike's link and the page, indeed site does not exist any more. Probably got a take-down notice from Microsoft. So be aware that additional codecs may need to be paid for again unless anyone here know different. I even logged in to Magix to see if it could be re-ordered without payment but could not find any links. On the other hand all other content I think I'm entitled to has reinstalled without a problem.

I have found that depending on how I set MEP up, the program is registering differing amounts of CPU and GPU usage. It's worth running Task manager alongside running MEP to see what is in use and what is not. Even surprised to see my humble graphics card being used both in playback and exporting. Can't currently see any sign of the Intel graphics at present. Will try to sort that this week.

As such with the CPU doing most of the work, my render times using the best realistic rendering possible without going over the top has been cut by approximately 7/8ths. So 16 hours in now two hours. Only in HEVC at present am I getting the 'No Hardware Encoding' message at the top of the preview export box.

Any comments or thoughts appreciated.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Exciting times with your brandspank machine!

Only in HEVC at present am I getting the 'No Hardware Encoding' message at the top of the preview export box.

This will probably be because your GT1030 does not have an NVENC encoder chip in it. Magix say GTX1050 or higher for this function.

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

You may have inadvertently answered a previous question of mine on my old PC build which was, Why does my machine not play HEVC content in Windows Media Player at the end of a render even though at the time I had the HEVC codec. Could it have been lack of graphics card support? If so that confirms my next bit of kit to buy on my editing ability list.

The other thing I notice is however I set the PC up (old machine or new) Neither is/was close to maxing out on either disc, graphics or CPU. Most of the time less than 40% of resources are used. Even ram doesn't get that loaded. I think 6gig at the most. Disks barely touch 25% of available speed. The clock speeds of the CPU does increase to around 4.1 GHz as opposed to it's base 3.60GHz but that's about it. Even on exporting it seems to be on idle. Is the graphics hard holding it back or am I just being paranoid?

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

You may have inadvertently answered a previous question of mine on my old PC build which was, Why does my machine not play HEVC content in Windows Media Player at the end of a render even though at the time I had the HEVC codec. Could it have been lack of graphics card support? If so that confirms my next bit of kit to buy on my editing ability list.

I did respond to that previous post at the time and I think the reason you could not play HEVC may have been that you were on Win7 which, like recent Win10 builds - "Movies and TV"as alluded to by @mmcswnavy24, did not have the codec built in to it. I think your GT1030 should at least decode HEVC but does not have the NVENC HW encode capability.

Can't currently see any sign of the Intel graphics at present. Will try to sort that this week.

Do you mean you cannot see any activity on your Intel iGPU in Task Manager or that you cannot see your iGPU at all in TM or device manager? If either, you may need to enable "CPU Graphics" in your Bios and / or connect your Mobo Graphics output to a monitor. You could also remove the Nvidia card altogether and and this would invoke the iGPU if your Bios is set to "Auto" detection of the GPU. This should allow HW encoding of HEVC on the Intel.

Edit: Apologies! I have been getting ahead of myself - MEP does not have the capability to use NVENC for HWA of HEVC for playback or export! This is confined to VPX AFAIK so no point in you buying another Nvidia card as the Intel GPU does do HWA HEVC export (I presume you have purchased the HEVC codec for MEP?)

I would not fret too much about low activity on your Hardware monitors as this is an often criticism of MEP on high end machines. Maybe just think of it as the machine accomplishing the tasks required in MEP much quicker than your previous PC, without breaking a sweat!

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

Yes I'm going to have to take the graphics card out and plug a monitor into the motherboard. Not a high priority at present as I try to get all my previous software to load and run again as I had it set up before. Not to mention a gargantuan task of sorting and deleting over 47,000 old emails I thought had been completely sorted and deleted only to find the host server didn't delete them at their end as I was stupidly using a pop account which I've now changed. I'm down to just under 18,000 now but also having to set up new rules etc. so I'll get there in the end.

As for what is showing up. 16 (Processors) on the Intel eight core and just the GPU. Even then less than half of the cores show any sign of activity.

My query about speed was simply because a few others had mentioned that their exporting was nearly in real time. IE, takes the same amount of time as the clip would run for. I am way behind that and my files are somewhat larger than usual for their type with constant bit rates of around 100Mb/s when recording normal HD and higher at 4K. That and my exports are really close to the original footage normally at 60fps. Others may be recording at much lower frame and bit rates so hard to tell so appreciate your logic on the matter.

Still have lots to do so I had better get on with it for now. I appreciate the time taken to reply to my questions.

Thank you.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi

. . . . I tried Mike's link and the page, indeed site does not exist any more . . . . .

I tried the tinyurl link for the free HEVC codec from Microsoft today and it is still there.

This direct link should get you there

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

It worked. Thanks John.

It works in both the Films &TV app and Windows Media Player which I've now set as default because you are right John, for whatever reason F&TV doesn't play well. The HEVC files produced tearing on any camera panning movement.

I got a new code for activating the HEVC codec in MEP from Magix via email as well. All I have to do now is get my export settings correct for YouTube so they don't compress my results too much although that seems to work better with an MP4 264 file better anyway.

I'm still trying to figure out why the system seems to be on tick-over when exporting. I understand I'm trying the highest quality export I can sill using an IBBP GOP structure at 60fps with 100Mbps (variable) files.

Disks are running at around 10% Graphics card is just under 30% and CPU is barely getting above 14%

Should I set windows to prioritize background services or keep it on programs?

HEVC does take some time longer than MP4 and I've noticed that MEP doesn't seem to support 4K at 60fps yet.

Other than that,the only other thing I don't seem to be able to do is find a bios setting to get the Intel graphics to run on boot up when the graphics card is present.

MEP sees it with the card out of the PC but looses it again when I plug it back in.

I hate messing with bios settings and I'm really reluctant on this on as it's miles different to my old setup.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . I'm still trying to figure out why the system seems to be on tick-over when exporting. . . . .

Personally I do not worry about what the iGPU or CPU figures are - IMO they depend on how much processing is actually needed.

IMO the important figures are the actual rendering framerate per second eg if is it exporting a simple 4K project to 4K with crossfades and titles and no processor heavy effects, than I expect and get renders close to or better than real time. Some effects such as the Neatvideo Reduce Noise is very processor heavy and can reduce the framerate conversion to a crawl.

. . . . I understand I'm trying the highest quality export I can sill using an IBBP GOP structure at 60fps with 100Mbps (variable) files . . . .

For 4K using HEVC and h.264 the bitrate of 100 Mbps is overkill and YT will definitely mess that bitrate up probably to somewhere around 60 Mbps or less for h.264 and less for HEVC - see their recommendations here.

. . . . HEVC does take some time longer than MP4 . . I've noticed that MEP doesn't seem to support 4K at 60fps yet. . . . .

It does - HEVC is very processor intensive hence why you get the same quality with 35 Mbps vs 60 MBps for h.264.

You can manually change the framerate to 60 fps and up the average bitrate to 45-50 Mbps and save this as an export preset in the export dialog.

. . . . I don't seem to be able to do is find a bios setting to get the Intel graphics to run on boot up when the graphics card is present . . . .

IIRC the setting you want is in the Windows setting, not the BIOS.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

I think you misunderstand John. I was quoting the bit rate of the MPEG-4 source files. They are normally around 80Mbps but can go as high as 100Mbps depending on the camera settings.

Example :

General
Complete name                            : D:\Salute to the 40s Sunday\Video content\DJI_0111.MP4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : JVT
Codec ID                                 : avc1 (avc1/isom)
File size                                : 3.09 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 80.1 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45
Comment                                  : DE=None, Type=Normal, HQ=Normal, Mode=P
gpt                                      : +5.80
gyw                                      : -1.30
grl                                      : +0.00

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=30
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 80.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 2 720 pixels
Height                                   : 1 530 pixels
Original height                          : 1 536 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.321
Stream size                              : 3.08 GiB (100%)
Title                                    : DJI.AVC
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 7.48 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : DJI.AAC
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45
Tagged date                              : UTC 2019-09-22 14:30:45

Other
Type                                     : meta
Duration                                 : 1 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Default                                  : No

I personally am not finding HEVC as good for detail. Sky graduations are blocky looking and banding. Definition of sharp contrasting areas is being smoothed over. Lower file size or not I'm finding distinct differences that show up and I can see. Using MPEG-4 I can tell what type of cloth is used in a persons clothing, in HEVC it becomes a block of colour. Using MPEG-4 for export I can't tell the difference between the original file and the edited if it's not altered in any way with effects or luts.

IIRC the setting you want is in the Windows setting, not the BIOS.

Sorry, Can you be more specific please? It's not just a new system but I'm new to Win 10 as well.

If you mean within MEP it isn't an option when the graphics card is in the system.

If you mean it can be selected in Windows, where can I find that please?

[EDIT]

I tried in Windows and got this response.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi ray

. . . . highest quality export I can sill using an IBBP GOP structure at 60fps with 100Mbps (variable) files . . . . I was quoting the bit rate of the MPEG-4 source files. . . . .

Thanks for the clarification, I am now on the same page as you.

. . . . IIRC the setting you want is in the Windows setting, not the BIOS. . . . .

See this article for an app by app basis.

Having dumped NVidia GPU's a while ago I am going from memory - for global use the GPU to use is in the NVidia control panel - see this article and under the Global tab.

I do stand to be corrected on the latter method.

HTH

John EB.

@johnebaker

Hi John. I've been playing before I saw your reply.

I wasn't sure it would work but I unplugged the HDMI cable from the NVIDIA card and put it into the Motherboard HDMI input and switched on half expecting the machine to fall over on boot-up.

Instead it booted twice and then in windows I got an auto update with only one screen working at that point and then another reboot.

When it rebooted I had my normal dual screen with the NVIDIA card powering screen 2 and the Intel chip powering screen 1.

All I have to do now is maybe swap monitor leads over at the monitor end because screen 1 is on the right side with screen two on the left. I don't know what if any difference that will make so I'm leaving it for now.

Because I'm new to Win 10 my desktop screens are littered with shortcuts to drives and apps. All were where I had placed them before. Wasn't sure that would work. Anyhow, I opened MEP, loaded a project and then went to the program settings in MEP.

What I now have is this.

The question now is what do I enable where please? I've left it for the time being as it was when I opened MEP which was this

It's neat that it seems to have worked so far. I still have proxy files enabled but it's the only thing I have ticked to reduce stress on the playback. The video quality on in the preview is very good and I can tap the timeline at any point and it plays within a fraction of a second without a hiccup or judder. I haven't tried any exporting yet.

I didn't have to change anything in Windows at all. More luck than judgement I think and my son will probably go mad at me when he finds out 😇.

[EDIT] Added.

That second screen shot is wrong John.Sorry. It should have been this.

@johnebaker

@Scenestealer

@mmcswnavy24

@terrypin

General Update.

What I did in the last post without altering anything else seems to have worked.

Things have kicked up a gear.

I'm getting a (Hardware Encoding) message on the top of the export box when I tried the same project for export as HEVC. The project is nine minutes forty nine seconds give or take a frame.

Opening up Task Manager during exporting I get these results.

CPU using between 11 to 12 % of capacity running at between 4.53GHz to 4.73GHz.

Memory topped at 9% of the 32 gig of ram in use.

The Drives C: and E: (the ones in use) both report similar usage at 9% maximum although I'm sure I saw the hard drive max out a couple of times at its peak.

GPU 0 (Intel) wandered back and fourth between 14 to 25%

GPU 1 (NVIDIA Ge Force 1030 wandered back and fourth between 47 to 53 %. Quite a large increase from before.

TOTAL RENDER TIME. Thirty minutes and ten seconds.

That is more than thirty two times faster than my old system.

Even more amazing, the hardware encoded HEVC file plays back much better. Much less blocking of colour and better edges to contrast than before. No frame tearing during playback.

The just under ten minute clip had seven sets of animated titling in it. Black bars top and bottom to reduce the height for the whole length. Some colour tweaking on all clips. Some fades and wipes. Animated jpg at end to transform into heart shape.

Now I'm impressed.

Will try an MPEG-4 export next for comparison.

[EDIT] Extra content.

Just finished the MPEG-4 render of the same project.

Still getting the (Hardware Encoding) message in the export preview.

Slight variation of resources being used.

CPU between 9 to 12 % at clock frequencies between 3.57 to 4.93GHz

Memory 7.1gig. (22%)

Drive speeds for C: & E: drives 1 to 12%

GPU 0 (Intel) 6 to 9%

GPU 1 (NVIDIA) 47 to 55%

Export Render time Thirty Three minutes and fifty two seconds.

Export looked pretty much the same as without hardware acceleration from my old system.

Not much in it for either export times.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Good to see you are seeing significant gains with your new rig.

"Other than that,the only other thing I don't seem to be able to do is find a bios setting to get the Intel graphics to run on boot up when the graphics card is present.

MEP sees it with the card out of the PC but looses it again when I plug it back in."

I see you have an ASUS board which should have the same UEFI Bios as my Z170. I would do this:-

Go into Bios by hitting "Delete" before Windows boots. Check you have the latest Bios version for your board on the ASUS website. If not update it first.

In the main UEFI bios window click "Advanced Mode (F7)" (bottom right) > Click "Advanced" (top menu) > Click "System Agent Configuration" > click "Graphics Configuration" > Primary display > select "CPU Graphics" from the dropdown > "iGPU Multimonitor" select "Enabled" from the dropdown > DVMT Pre Allocated > select "1024M" from the dropdown.

Go to "Save and Exit" and it will give you a summary of your changes so take a shot of that > click "Save and Reset" and it will boot into windows. You can check these setting options in your motherboard manual.

Make sure your Primary monitor is plugged into your MoBo and your secondary is connected to you Nvidia. If your desktop appears on the wrong monitor you can reconfigure it in Windows Settings > Display.

Following the Windows Graphics settings guide John EB has linked to choose Classic App and navigate to the Movie Edit Pro Premium.exe in C: \Programs\.....folder and click "Options" then choose "Power Saving GPU" and exit.

Open MEP2020 and you will probably find that "Program Settings > Display options > Preferred GPU" has changed to "Intel UHD630 Graphics". Try playback at Full Res. of some UHD or 1080 60P material with this selected and then change this to Nvidia GT1030 and restart the program and see if playback is smoother . It is smoother with Nvidia selected on my machine.

I do not think you will see any gains from setting anything in the Nvidia control panel linked by John EB even though you can make specific program settings for MEP2020, as in the Windows Graphic Setting options, but you could set "Power management Mode" to "Prefer Maximum Performance" for what it's worth.

Have a go and report back.

Peter

Hi Peter.

I am one bios update behind the current one but will leave that alone for now until I'm completely sure about my bios settings. This is something I do not do on a regular basis and not going to play with until I am sure.

Both monitors are identical bought at the same time. All I have to do is change the leads over at the back and then re-calibrate them or simpler, change their positions.

I'm not sure changing the Windows settings does anything in that department If I want the MEP preview monitor to show on the monitor powered by the Intel chip.

I put the screens below each other so I got a better resolution image when expanded here. They are side by side 😉

I'm getting much better playback using the Intel graphics chip than my NVIDIA card. Less than a quarter of a second of delay moving the timeline playback slider and no longer having to turn off effects or use proxy files.

The disk I use has more effect than the graphics.Can't really get a smooth playback if I import a project from some of my older external drives but I don't tend to do that anyway.

Yes the NVIDIA control panel can only control what is connected the the GPU.

When my son gets back from abroad he's bringing around a couple of SanDisk M.2 drives to pop into the Mobo.

I don't fully understand the Motherboard yet. It has many things I've not seen before such as memory training and what appears to be a lot of self checking. I can't even monitor my CPU's temperature under export conditions.

I don't even think I've heard the CPU fan vary in pitch as yet.

But what I now have is tons better than what I had before so what I'm now concentrating on at the moment is getting the rest of my programs up and running.

Some programs have shown no improvement at all despite the upgrade. Capture NXD for instance is as clunky and slow as ever and I'm still quicker than it is and still wait round while it renders my last adjustment.

Until decide to go 4K with my monitors I'll probably stick with the graphics card I've got as it handles resolutions higher than that anyway. OLED would be very nice but then I'd be thinking about 10 bit video files and it would never end 😁

No, for now I'm happy and once I can monitor my core temperatures and that of the M.2 drives I may try a bit more tweaking.

Exporting is becoming more or a dark art than I first suspected.

Using the standard MPEG-4 codec in MEP and and using software encoding only I tried a different project that was five minutes 43 seconds and forty one frames at 50fps. Consisting of a mixture of 1080p clips and slow motion clips at 1080p as well as some 4K clips at the same frame rate. I used the slow motion clips which crop the sensor to obtain a narrower field of view and sped them up to normal playback speed and added the accompanying aac. files (which are now read on my machine by MEP) to give them their sound back. The 4K clips were zoomed in on do do a similar thing. The project also had three sets of titling, various complex fades, Pro Dad stabilisation on two clips as well as added sound tracks and existing audio re-arranged within the project.

The total render time was twelve minutes forty five seconds.

That is now just over double the length of the video.

The computer resources varied as I would have expected but not in the way I expected.

CPU usage stayed within 2 to 8 %.

Loaded memory shot up to 34 % usage at just over 10gig.

GPU 0 (Intel) worked between 32 to 52 % No idea why unless it was dealing with the effects in real time.

GPU 1 (NVIDIA) stayed at a constant 2%

Disk activity stayed pretty much as it had on the other project settings.

Overall quality of the finished video was the smoothest playback and most close to the original to date.

YouTube hardly touched it quality wise once it uploaded.

I think I now have my general settings for YouTube back.

I will get back to here when I have the M.2 modules fitted if it makes a difference or not.

I'd like to thank all those that have helped out and will be trying variants of the advice over time as things get more stable and I have time on my hands to try them out.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

So you don't want things like:-😉

ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING BIOS
Improved DRAM compatibility.
Improved system performance.
Updated ME version to Ver.12.0.39
Updated microcode for Security.
Improved storage device compatibility.

There have been 12 updates for that board in the last year alone, so I would stay with subsequent updates. It is very straight forward with the Asus EZY Flash utility.

GPU 0 (Intel) worked between 32 to 52 % No idea why unless it was dealing with the effects in real time.

I presume you were exporting to 1080 50P. Did you have "Calculate Video effects on GPU" ticked? I think the downsizing is GPU accelerated.....even without that tick.

That time for a SW render seems quite swift with the Default codec.

The Vegas stabiliser is GPU accelerated so renders quicker than the Prodad which renders entirely on the CPU. It does surprise me that you do not see a lot more CPU load when it hits the Mercalli clips?

But (don't) try an Ignite filter......export processing is absolutely glacial!

Have fun.

Peter