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CubeAce wrote on 11/2/2022, 1:28 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John. I think @Romain-TOMBOIS means could you upload your render to Google Drive for him to download and play back to see if he sees a difference.

Speaking of which. I loaded the two clips and found the same frame in each file. Zoomed in 400% within MEP and took a screen shot of each. Then I aligned and layered the two images on top of each other in Photoshop and zoomed in another 300% The differences were tonal and not compression differences as far as I could see.

To verify that, I changed the top layer transparency to subtract and slowly pulled the slider back and forth. What should happen if all the pixels align is they should equally blend each other out and gradually blacken the screen out. Any variations should leave patches or small groups of pixels still showing.

They cancelled. So was the re-rendered file from Movie Studio? If so I can't explain why you are seeing less detail on the TV. I will however endeavour to do my own render for you and upload it with a link in my next reply.

Ray.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 11/2/2022, 1:45 PM

@CubeAce, @Romain-TOMBOIS

Hi

Thanks for the heads up Ray - I had mis-read Romains post - I have edited it.

. . . . The differences were tonal and not compression differences as far as I could see. . . .

That confirms what I was seeing in my exports.

John EB

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CubeAce wrote on 11/2/2022, 2:00 PM

@Romain-TOMBOIS @Romain-TOMBOIS

Hi.

Here is my render to download from Google drive. I admit I can't see a difference but I don't have a high end 4k TV.

 

 

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Marc-Goder wrote on 11/2/2022, 4:41 PM

Hello, This is my result.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zPnIdZV6yj3L82LLbu_WqBlU5F5tiPvn/view?usp=sharing

Export Optionen:

3840 X 2160 : 60 FPS

with the corrections posted as before

 

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Romain-TOMBOIS wrote on 11/3/2022, 3:00 AM

Hello,

Thansk you for your help the last vidéo have a good result.

I'm not at home at the moment as soon as I arrive I'm testing the video on a 4k tv and I'll let you know the result. I will try again to render my video completely with your modifications too and I will send you the result on a drive. Anyway, thank you very much, I learned a lot from your answers.

Have a good day

Romain-TOMBOIS wrote on 11/6/2022, 4:16 AM

@Marc-Goder @johnebaker

Hi,

So I test your export settings and visuel correction the result is a little bit better... No the same quality as go pro exporting. Its like a blurry image than go pro is clearer. I show the 2 video to my family there are not are familiar with video editing, they just watch the result and they unanimously at the begining of the video say wow its blurry...

So i was disapointed... I said to myself I will try to render the video with another editing software. I choose Da vinci resolve 18. I export de video with the default settings in 4K without color correction end the result is like go pro and maybe even better.

So I do not know what to do...

 

johnebaker wrote on 11/6/2022, 5:15 AM

@Romain-TOMBOIS

Hi

Try exporting the video as MP4, h.264 and HEVC (h.265), using the default settings for both formats, in Movie Studio and check them on your TV.

How are you playing the video files on the TV - from Memory stick/USB hard drive or casting from the PC to the TV?

John EB

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Marc-Goder wrote on 11/6/2022, 9:11 AM

Hello, I did another export without any changes. Except that the export is with Magix at 60 FPS and the original file at 120 FPS and slightly different export settings.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G3hse0-qC_HlMm-syhwT9dL11lu0FQ6v/view?usp=share_link

Here are the export settings.

The GOP Structure this time is IBBBP

The second clip is exported with another software. Again, no further changes to the source material.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y4dAG4Mkx4B9xBFcX6jhAxyPI05s-ECa/view?usp=share_link

Here are the export settings.with Pinnacle Studio Ultimate

For me, both results are more than good.
I can't see any major differences from the original.

But that doesn't mean that other people have to see it the same way.

 

Addendum: Google probably doesn't like IBBBP that much.

Last changed by Marc-Goder on 11/6/2022, 11:03 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

Windows 10 (Auto-Update + Manuell) Ver.19045.4355

Weitere Video Software: CAPCUT
Konverter: Handbrake

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( Windows 11 kann ich nicht. Krieg ich Blähungen und Bluthochdruck von )