@rickduley

Hi.

Hey there @CubeAce, they do burn data to DVDs. How do you think those videos used to get there? 🙃

I'm not the best person to know the answer to that on this forum hence I copied @AAProds into the conversation as he uses DVDs on a regular basis and @johnebaker I also know produces the odd disk or two, but I find it odd that in the specs I posted earlier that much lower speeds were specified for data disc burning than for video. That would give a weak laser more time to burn a darker area onto a disk.

I do as I say burn CDs of my music and not all CD / Blu-ray players in my home will play them. I have two players that will only seemingly play commercially made disks that are stamped rather than burned even when using proper authorizing software rather than Windows. So at this point I am really beginning to think it is the DVD burner if Al is correct about the data bits involved but not taking into account the transfer speeds of the writing to disk and you not answering whether or not you have one ram stick or two. If two sticks and your motherboard has four ram slots are the sticks of memory in the correct slots for instance?

Ray.

@rickduley

Hi Rick

Thanks for the ISO image file, a MediaInfo analysis of the VOBs created indicates the Render preset settings have been modified to produce a Constant Bitrate video, the image below shows my MediaInfo data of one of the VOBs in the ISO burn I did from the original unedited mts file (left side) compared to yours on the right.

Constant rate produces much larger file sizes then is necessary nor required for disc.

Note the lower bitrate I selected Adjust to fit a DVD single layer disc. In terms of the image quality, there is very little if any difference.

However: the video includes nearly 1 hour 38 mins of adverts and other material, editing these out brings the video down to where it will fit on single layer disc, using the adjust if necessary.

If it does not burn, then I think the DVD writer may be the issue.

John EB

@rickduley

That is standard practice and the first thing I tried weeks ago.

OK, but on the previous page you said:

"(3) Cutting the ISO directly to DVD doesn't offer "Adapt Bit Rate";

As explained, "Adapt Bitrate" is there, under Encoder Settings.

Also,

(1) True Grit ISO is ~4GB;

The ISO you posted the link to is 5.5GB, not 4. That will not fit on a single-layer disk.

To add to JohnEB's comment, you can further reduce the eventual file size by removing the end of "Shane", at the start, and the start of "Jackal", at the end.

Then it would simply be a case of setting up the DVD burn, and if the size says it's over 4400MB, go to Encoder Settings and hit "Adapt bitrate". I like to lower it a bit more, to a size of 4300MB, to give just a bit of freeplay.

The basic process hasn't changed for many years.

I'll do a complete DVD burn over the next 12 hours and see how it goes.

@rickduley, @AAProds

Hi Rick. Al

. . . . you can further reduce the eventual file size by removing the end of "Shane", at the start, and the start of "Jackal", at the end . . .

I repeated the tests with the original mts file, removing the above and the adverts and got a more reasonable render/burn time of 1 hr 30 min direct to disc, with a very acceptable bitrate, shown below, using the auto adjust

The disc is full and plays fine.

John EB

@rickduley

Rick, here's my ISO, 4.1GB (I left the ads in but trimmed off Shane and Jackal).

See if you can successfully burn it (it will fit on a single-layer DVD). Keep your burn speed down to x4.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EqXgLxq4jp91_PXsMEpZpSvHVx1ZbpAE/view?usp=sharing

@johnebaker

John, I notice that the MTS is TFF in MediaInfo whereas Magix wants to use BFF. It doesn't matter in this case because the MTS is PSF, but I wonder if Magix erroneously defaults to BFF?

@AAProds

Hi Al

. . . . the MTS is TFF in MediaInfo whereas Magix wants to use BFF. It doesn't matter in this case because the MTS is PSF, but I wonder if Magix erroneously defaults to BFF . . . .

As I understand TFF/BFF usage, for:

• DVD discs it does not matter whether PAL or NTSC
• Bluray discs are TFF for both PAL and NTSC.

If a TFF DVD is required, the preset could be changed to TFF and saved as a new preset.

John EB

First off - I have not forgotten you good folk and the effort you have put into solving my problem with the DVD Burner. I have been ill - one of those winter things that plague geriatrics like myself, not life-threatening but a Pain in the Everything. Definitely no chance of thinking straight. However, I'm on the mend now and getting back to doing things.

I did not get to download @AAProds' ISO. You will remember that I was in the Naughty Corner with my ISP at the time and there were three or four failed attempts. That link is no longer valid so I can't try that now. However, I have come to the conclusion that we have a hardware problem. My vendor is sending a replacement DVD Burner so I'll stick that in and let you know what happens.

Thanks you all for your patience.

@rickduley

Oops, sorry Rick, I removed it a few days ago as I needed the space. I can put it back up in a few days if you'd like.

No worries right now @AAProds. We'll see how we go with the new burner in the machine.

Cheers

Finally - installed new DVD Burner (same make/model) - and I have just successfully cut a DVD. 😀

My thanks to all who worked so hard to solve this problem for me. I am sorry that it turned out to be a wild goose chase it's just that I have never before seen such a failure in a new disc drive.

Thanks

That's good news Rick. New avatar too, I see! 👍