@rickduley

Hi.

@johnebaker answered that question in his last reply.

The last bits of system information missing from your signature and what you have told us so far that may give us clues are, amount of motherboard ram and amount of free space on your C: drive. Both of which could possibly give you a problem if for any reason the transfer speeds from the computer could not match the recording speed of the disc being burned.

That's assuming for now there is nothing wrong with the DVD recorder which I am having trouble finding from the information provided so far. The nearest match I have been able to find is a generic unit last made in 2019 by Hitachi but is a slim fit model and those are not normally fitted to desktops.

For those reasons I don't think that is it.

If the missing information was in the files you uploaded to one-drive I do not have a one-drive account and cannot access those.

Ray.

@rickduley

HI Rick

My comment in the early hours this morning (UK time) has disappeared!

The DVD writer as @CubeAce commented above is a slimline device normally found in laptops or USB external DVD writers, which raises the question is it an external USB device?

If not, how has it been mounted into the PC ?

If it is a USB device, does it have its own power pack which is being used, and/or have 1 or 2 USB plugs and relying solely on power from the PC?

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I found additional information on the drive and it has a SATA interface. Also no mention of being win 11 compatible although it should be Win 10 compatible so maybe win 11 compatible and was made by LG not Hitachi.

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I am a bit worried about what it says it can do.

Ray.

G'Mornin' folks

8GB RM and 89.6GB free space on C:\

The DVD drive is internal and slim-line but I don't see any ID info.

@CubeAce should not need a OneDrive account. The links should give you the access.

@rickduley

Hi.

should not need a OneDrive account. The links should give you the access.

No, it say's I need to log in to my account which I don't have. I tried the download buttons to no avail.

That's why most of us here use either a Google drive account or DropBox as they do not require any sign-in to enable downloads.

If the 8GB of ram is one stick then your system is not taking advantage of dual channel memory speeds but if it is two sticks of 4GB then that's better but 4GB sticks are uncommon. 89.6 GB of free C: drive space should be more than sufficient for this.

The product info on your optical drive was in your previous image showing us your drives. Even without a label it is in the products electronic ID code and read by the system.

I have found one identical drive to your one with an ASUS badge on it. That too only has a Windows 10 certification and no mention of creating DVDs, only playing them but can record CDs and data discs

. At present the only company I can find that have Windows 11 certified recorders are Blu-ray recorders from Pioneer. But that's mad as others here also make DVDs and are on Windows 11.

I personally haven't burned a DVD in a long time (since Win 7) and have none to hand to try out.

I don't know if @johnebaker currently burns DVDs or not. I know @AAProds (Al) does I know both are on Win 11. I wonder if Al has any ideas or can tell us what optical drive he has?

Ray.

@CubeAce You had me worried. So I plugged my 12 year old external Y lead ASUS SBW-06D2X-U drive into my Win 11 machine. It was instantly recognised and the drive opened asking for a disk. I don't have a Blu-ray ready to burn at present so just inserted a data DVD which it recognised and played a mp3 music file okay. I've had more problems getting it recognised in my old Win 10 machine as Windows updates upset things. Actually last time it was user error as I hadn't plugged the lead in firmly to the rear of the player. I had Vista when I purchased it.

@rickduley @CubeAce
I don't think DVD drives are that finnicky. They're basic gadgets like hard disk drives; they'll work with any OS.

My Bluray burner is a Pioneer BDR 212-D, which I bought last year for my new computer. It burns Magix projects and standalone ISOs without issue.

I couldn't find that "Burn disk image" command so I used Imgburn.

Both of which could possibly give you a problem if for any reason the transfer speeds from the computer could not match the recording speed of the disc being burned.

This will not be an issue. The burn rate, at 4x, is only 5MB/sec.

 

@CubeAce writes

No, it say's I need to log in to my account which I don't have. I tried the download buttons to no avail.

That's curious. I have sent similar links to numerous other forums and everyone has been able to access the files. I don't know what to do about that. I'll have to investigate Google Drive and DropBox. (Perhaps Mr Microsoft doesn't like you! 😟)

Personally, I do not like the Cloud at all, especially if I am concerned about security (not this case). My son (the family Geek) tells me that it is great and the security is Kosher and all that. I tell him I will believe that when I find out the CIA, MI6, GRU, Mossad, NSA etc.are all storing their secret files in the Cloud. That's why I have used OneDrive - only the folks I send the links to get access. But that's another issue.

@ericlnz

Hi Eric.

The ASUS Drive I found was the same device that @rickduley has as a Generic DVD drive and not your Blu-ray recorder.

@AAProds

Hi Al.

The printed specs for the are.

Model: GU90N
Condition: Brand New
Type: 8X DVD Burner
Loading: Tray Loading
Material: aluminum
Color: Silver
Net Dimensions: 127mmx9.5mmx129mm
Net Weight: 135g
Gross Weight: 200g
Warranty: 1 Year

General Features: Emergency Eject Hole Activity LED DVD+R DL
support Hot Plug & Play Compatibility:
* 5X Speed DVD-RAM Writing
* 8X Speed DVD-R Writing
* 2X Speed DVD-R(DL) Writing
* 4X Speed DVD-RW Writing
* 8X Speed +R 4.7GB Writing
* 2.4X Speed +R(DL) Writing * 4X Speed +RW 4.7GB Writing * 24X Speed CD-R Writing * 16X Speed CD-RW Writing * 24X Speed CD-ROM Reading
* 8X Speed DVD-ROM Reading
* Buffer Under Run Protection
* DVD MULTI Read /Write support
* DMA66

support Supported Formats: DVD+R/RW DVD-R/RW CD-Audio CD-DA CD-ROM CD-ROM XA CD-R CD-RW CD-I Photo-CD Video CD CD Extra CD-G CD Text DVD-ROM DVD-RAM DVD-Video

That seems fairly standard to me.

@rickduley

At the moment the only option to help find out what is going on is to get a copy of a file you produce that you can't get to work for us to try to burn. At least that way we can eliminate a produced file from your machine or not.

People interested could PM you for a link so you don't have to share a link on an open forum but PM them back with a link. Normally the practice would be for anyone doing the test would be to delete their copy of any file given in faith directly after testing is complete. I will see if I do have any old DVDs lying around. It's possible,

Ray.

@rickduley

That's curious. I have sent similar links to numerous other forums and everyone has been able to access the files. I don't know what to do about that.

I suspect that that is because all your other contacts are logged in to their Microsoft accounts via Windows. I clicked on one of your Onedrive links and Windows prompted me to sign in with my Microsoft account.

all storing their secret files in the Cloud. That's why I have used OneDrive - only the folks I send the links to get access.

You'll be disappointed to learn that One Drive is a cloud service too, just like Google Drive and Dropbox; those also use the link system so only those with the link can open the file you've shared.

Question: Back to the DVD problem, how big is the full-movie ISO?

Suggestion: If you have VLC Player installed, you can "play" your ISO by right-clicking on it and choosing "Play with VLC Media player". You can click on the DVD buttons to try it. That will validate the integrity of the ISO itself.

Regarding fitting it onto a single layer disk, on the DVD burn screen click "Adapt Bit Rate"; that will reduce the bitrate to reduce the file size so it fits on the DVD.

@CubeAce @rickduley

That seems fairly standard to me.

Ray, true, except that it is designed for a Dell laptop, not a desktop. I'm not prepared to conclude it's a dud burner at this stage but I have a niggling doubt. 😉

@AAProds

Hi Al.

Actually it is stated as generic for laptops and Desktops and supplied from the manufacturer as OEM and does not come with a facing plate or additional software. I suspect the ASUS one I also found was the same mode but with an ASUS label. face plate, and price tag.

@AAProds :

(1) True Grit ISO is ~4GB;

(2) I have just run the ISO again and, this time, in VLC - all seems well;

(3) Cutting the ISO directly to DVD doesn't offer "Adapt Bit Rate";

(4) Here's a link to the ISO on OneDrive - https://1drv.ms/v/c/bb228147f3dd175d/EVDC0Qlw1B9AlLTHsPHZ_roB1cEm3cWdqVs8minlKcAKrQ?e=SsZXwP

PS: I have a niggling doubt too. 😉

@rickduley, @CubeAce

Hi Rick, Ray

. . . . I'm not prepared to conclude it's a dud burner at this stage but I have a niggling doubt. . . . .

I am with Al on this one.

The logged data posted shows that Movie Studio actually completes the rendering of the video, creates the menu and ancilliary files, and burning to ISO also completes without error.

It is the final step - the burn to disc - that fails, the DVD drive is possibly 'dud', it does not have the correct disc parameters for setting the laser power for burning.

I have got the original mts video file downloaded it is ~ 3.8 GB in size, encoded MPEG-2 / MP2 720 x 576, interlaced TFF will test later, downloading the ISO now.

John EB

@rickduley

So it appears that the ISO is OK, so that probably removes the Magix encoding part of the process from the culprit list.

Sorry, the "Adapt bitrate" button is visible in the Encoder Settings of the Burn dialogue.

I'm downloading your ISO now and will report back later with a burn report.

@CubeAce

Ray, again, true, but it is still a hodge-podge; you can't put a desktop DVD drive in a laptop but that one can go in either. I wouldn't put a 9.5mm burner in a desktop.

@rickduley

Rick, that link is to the MTS. Can you post the link to the ISO please.

@CubeAce

Hi Al

. . . . it is still a hodge-podge; you can't put a desktop DVD drive in a laptop but that one can go in either. . . .

There are PC's with slimline drives fitted eg the Dell Optiplex small forms, HP Z1 and Z2 G9's.

@rickduley

Hi Rick

Is this PC one of the above make/models, I note you commented it was a 'refurbished' PC.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I think your first comment is directed to Al.

I could fit a slimline drive into my case. I have the bays for it. I have eight front facing bays. Most now redundant.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Comment adjusted .

@rickduley

Hi Rick

The mts file burned to DVD via ISO file with no issues for me - I used a spare burner of the approx same age as as the one in your PC, burning the ISO file using Windows Explorer in Wndows 11.

John EB

@rickduley @johnebaker @AAProds

I tried to download the ISO file but no luck. I did eventually find a couple of unused DVDs.

Glad you two can confirm the file is OK though. All the blurb I ever found on that drive always had 'Can play DVDs but never a mention of burning them which seemed odd as burning data files to DVD was mentioned.

It's possibly those pesky add men rearing their ugly heads again omitting truths to cover up weaknesses.

Ray.

Hey there @CubeAce, they do burn data to DVDs. How do you think those videos used to get there? 🙃

Here @AAProds is the link to the ISO file https://1drv.ms/u/c/bb228147f3dd175d/EVOlJZ886ZNCkI7PwRxwqJ0BPQrUpAgs8L9YRv4D5UP5aA?e=xSQIQ2

I am in my ISP's bad books at the moment and that file got uploaded at about 1.6Mbs 😠 I hope it was worth the effort. Anyway - it plays just fine for me in any of four video players.

@rickduley

Coming down now... faster than 1.6 I hope! 😀😀

I'll let you know how the burn goes.