Which upgrade for Magix Movie Edit Pro Plus (2022)

dirkc_be wrote on 8/12/2022, 7:04 AM

It is very confusion to understand what the best upgrade for Magix Movie Edit Pro Plus 2022 is:

> Magix Movie Edit Pro Plus is now called Movie Studio.
> In my mailbox I've received an offer to upgrade to Video deluxe 2023 Premium + extra's
> And when I open my actual program I see a pop-up announcing that there is 70% reduction for Movie Studio 2022 Platinum.

Can anybody explain me what upgrade I have to take? Or do I have to wait for Movie Studio 2023?

Thanks!

My PC:
Windows 10 - V 10.0.19044 Build 19044; V21H2 (up-to-date)
CPU: Intel I7 - 8700; 3,20 GHz; 6 cores; 12 logical cores
RAM: 32 GB
C-Drive (System): SSD 512 GB
D-Drive (data): SSD 1 TB
Graphical card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050; RAM: 2 GB; Curent refresh rate: 60 Hz (driver up-to-date)
Audio Card (external): Scarlett Focusrite 2i1 USB

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CubeAce wrote on 8/12/2022, 7:56 AM

@dirkc_be

Hi Dirk.

Currently if you have the 'Keep forever yearly licence' and want to keep it that way, stay away from anything with 365 in the title.

Top of the leader board with most functions is the 'Movie Studio 2022 Suite'. The new version may well come at the end of the month.

I thought you had the current 2022 version. There have been no new patches since your last post. Sometimes new offers popup because of a new third party plugin is offered and not because the program has been updated.

Personally I would wait until the end of the month to see when the 2023 version arrives (If it does).

Please note that the base specification for VPX 14 has changed and may be reflected in the release of Movie Studio 2023.

If so, your nvidia card will fall short of the recommended minimum specs as the VPX specs are as follows.

. Recommended system requirements Processor: - Intel 6th generation Core i-series or higher - AMD Ryzen or higher RAM: RAM: 16 GB Graphics card: INFUSION Engine 3 provides hardware acceleration for import and export using Intel, NVIDIA and AMD GPUs: - Intel Graphics HD 620 or higher with 4 GB (Intel driver version 27.20.100.9466 or higher) - NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1050ti or higher with 4 GB (GeForce Game Ready driver version 496.76 or higher) - AMD Radeon RX470 or higher with 4 GB Available drive space: 2 GB for program installation (10 GB recommended) Program languages: English, Deutsch, Français, Nederlands

While the program may run on lower specs you may well not be able to make full use of any hardware acceleration settings and some plugins may not work or cause crashes because of the lack of hardware acceleration. Sometimes, some plugins allow for the hardware acceleration to be turned off but not always.

I always think that anyone should take a long look at the new minimum specification list before deciding to upgrade. Upgrading is definitely different to a patch or update.

The latest 'upgrade' with VPX 14 I doubt many users are getting full use of the programs capabilities according to the Magix own press release.

That contains this information.

What does that mean?

Intel seems to have left VPX off of its list, but.

So while the program will work I have no idea if it is optimised as well for systems not running an i-12 processor on Win 11 as that combination I assume, would be optimum.

The people here seem happy with VPX 14 although I'm not sure which improvements tempted them or if they have found improvements over running VPX13.

 

Ray.
 

 

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

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Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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Former user wrote on 8/12/2022, 10:55 AM

@dirkc_be Can i add this link to the Magix site, https://www.magix.com/gb/video-editing/movie-studio/version-comparison/#c1477926

At the top of the Magix page is the option i posted the link to,

johnebaker wrote on 8/12/2022, 11:29 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . What does that mean? . . . .

In short Hyper Encode, enables sharing of the encoding tasks for formats that can be accelerated to use both the iGPU and Arc GPUs internal dedicated modules to video processing.

Unfortunately the ARC cards are delayed.

@dirkc_be

Hi

. . . . Can anybody explain me what upgrade I have to take? . . . .

You don't have to take any upgrade at the moment - you already have Movie Studio 2022 Platinum before the start of this year it was called Movie Edit Pro 2022 Plus, the only difference is the name of the product and editions.

When a new edition, is released the question then becomes 'Does it offer anything that I need?' Only you can decide this one.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 8/12/2022, 12:16 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

It was a bit of a rhetorical question from me. Sorry.

As far as I understand it that will only happen if used with a 12th generation Intel CPU and running Windows 11.

At least that is how it reads on the Intel site.

Intel has just released the specs for their A750 card set to compete against the nvidia 3060 but still no sign of any Ark desktop GPU being released yet even though the specs for their initial three graphics cards have been released.

How that will work with a lot of us not having either an i-12 processor or Ark graphics card makes me wonder if there was a noticeable difference between VPX 13 and 14 performance. The people here on average (with the odd exception) that have the least problems have the more powerful and up to date systems.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 8/12/2022, 2:49 PM

Hi Ray

Unfortunately with the issues they are having with the Arc GPU's drivers and software and production, it looks like a wait and see for when the 3rd party GPU makers actually get the chips.

BTW the Intel Ark is the repository for all Intel product specifications, features and more.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

dirkc_be wrote on 8/12/2022, 3:42 PM

My conclusion is to wait a while and see what the new features of Movie Studio 2013 will be.
Thanks for all info that you gave me guys!

My PC:
Windows 10 - V 10.0.19044 Build 19044; V21H2 (up-to-date)
CPU: Intel I7 - 8700; 3,20 GHz; 6 cores; 12 logical cores
RAM: 32 GB
C-Drive (System): SSD 512 GB
D-Drive (data): SSD 1 TB
Graphical card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050; RAM: 2 GB; Curent refresh rate: 60 Hz (driver up-to-date)
Audio Card (external): Scarlett Focusrite 2i1 USB

CubeAce wrote on 8/12/2022, 4:35 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I hate it when a company names two different items / products with the same name but different spelling. (and meaning)

I wouldn't mind but I use Intel Ark quite often for the forums.😒

I was initially interested in Arc. It looked good for video production. I'm assuming Magix is interested as there is no levy on vp09 and is if not better than, at least equal to H265 IMO based on results I have seen. But now I'm not sure how it would integrate into my system. i12 processors are also power hungry when pushed.

Arc was supposed to come out in May. They had driver issues but there may be deeper problems with the chiplets themselves that programming may not be able to overcome. So far the delay has cost Intel a rumoured 3.1 billion dollars. Third party vendors waiting for the final version for production were still waiting for a date for the plans two weeks ago. Asus are on record of saying they have heard nothing official from Intel.

The delays have caused too much speculation to now get a clear idea of what is actually going on and the now glut of nvidia and AMD cards may not make a third major company entering the graphics card market as viable.

So far it has been a very sad story all around.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."