Which Magix video programs will import MKV files directly?

mark-sullivan wrote on 4/15/2023, 4:55 AM

I'm using Magix EDIT Pro MX video maker from about 2017 which works flawlessly - except MKV files must be converted first so i lose audio quality. Which versions of Magix video will directly import MKV? I prefer to stick with Movie Edit Pro since ive been using it forever and understand it. Is there a newer version of this same program that allows MKV imports directly? Thanks

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AAProds wrote on 4/15/2023, 5:38 AM

@mark-sullivan

MKV support is still flaky with Movie Studio 2023 (the renamed Move Edit Pro); some files are OK and others not.

Re conversion of files, AVIDemux will smart-convert MKVs to MP4s with no transcoding. Try my guide for that here (this is for converting MOVs, but the principle is the same: Open file, Video>Copy, Audio>Copy, Mux format MP4):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GfpVjtQaeBo4DSzT5K3DodMztFq7LT-1/view?usp=share_link

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

mark-sullivan wrote on 4/15/2023, 5:46 AM

Thanks, I’ll try this! I used to use TS Edit which was expensive but it has died too. Best thing about it was it would split MKV files convert to whatever but NO audio loss… all the converters these days seem to limit audio to 160k… I absolutely love Video Proc for its video skills but I can hear 160k vs original dvd quality audio and it bugs the crap outta me. Same with all the dvd burners now… 160k audio… Ugh

johnebaker wrote on 4/15/2023, 6:08 AM

@mark-sullivan

Hi

In addition to @AAProds comment

. . . . MKV support is still flaky with Movie Studio 2023 . . . .

It is, however it is not the MKV file format that causes the 'flakiness'.

MKV is a container file format and contain video and audio that is encoded using many different encoding formats.

It is these encoded video/audio formats that cause the issue - if supported by Movie Studio, or require Quicktime installing, they are OK.

Download and install MediaInfo and analyse one of the MKV clips and post the results, see this tutorial on how to setup MediaInfo and analyse a video clip for all the data required.

To get MKV files without the need to convert them, this should be done at the time of creation eg if screen capturing, the encoding formats should be set eg h.264 for video and AAC for audio.

If you are using 3rd party MKV files then conversion is necessary unless you can get them in supported encoding formats

John EB
Forum Moderator  

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

AAProds wrote on 4/15/2023, 7:02 AM

@johnebaker

MKV is a container file format and contain video and audio that is encoded using many different encoding formats.

It is these encoded video/audio formats that cause the issue - if supported by Movie Studio, or require Quicktime installing, they are OK.

John, to a certain extent, you are correct, however, the file header definitely has a bearing on it's openability in Magix. Here is, on the face of it, a "standard" AVC file, which will not open here in MKV format but no problems in MP4 format:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WgYeivW7AAF3iLlvvsXJxHSP7evFvAdK/view?usp=share_link

That is why so many MKVs, when changed to MP4 with no codec changes/smart rendering, will open when they initially, as MKVs, won't.

Another area where Magix should up it's game.

Last changed by AAProds on 4/15/2023, 7:03 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

johnebaker wrote on 4/15/2023, 7:28 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

Thanks for the sample clip - it is definitely screwed up, looking at the header information, was this a re-encoded DV-AVI type 2 or webM video file by any chance?

John EB

Last changed by johnebaker on 4/15/2023, 7:30 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

AAProds wrote on 4/15/2023, 7:44 AM

@mark-sullivan

It would have been a lossless AVI, probably HUFFYUV or Lagarith, from a VHS capture. The person who encoded it is the video guru of Videohelp:

https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/402853-What-can-be-done-to-improve-this#post2629333

I don't know what encoder they used.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

AAProds wrote on 4/15/2023, 9:19 AM

Details of the encoder used for that file:

I used an old version of the x264 CLI encoder. You can see it with MediaInfo:
 

Code:

Writing application : x264 r2969 d4099dd Writing library : Haali Matroska Writer b0

Maybe some source filters don't like it because there's no audio?

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12