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browj2 wrote on 9/1/2021, 2:21 PM

@TjamzMusic

Hi,

Do you mean for broadcast?

What is the intended end product to be?

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CubeAce wrote on 9/1/2021, 3:00 PM

@TjamzMusic

Hi.

This is just my opinion so don't take it too much to heart.

It depends on how much post production and special effects you wish to add and how high end your camera is and what codecs it uses. .

Both are more dependent on the quality of the files that are used as to the quality of the output. Garbage in will always equal garbage out.

Asking this question begs the question of how much do you understand the ins and outs of shooting footage first.

Well recorded footage will give an equal quality of output if you know what you are doing.

If on the other hand you are asking about ease of use I would say Video Pro X is more intuitive and quicker to get to grips with but lacking more without additional packages for specific post production needs if you want any but the basic effects. Basic effects can produce some stunning results but something like planer tracking is more easily tackled by Vegas. If half of the last sentence didn't mean anything to you then personally I would suggest Video Pro X and if you don't understand how half of the effects work in the promotional videos maybe even Movie Edit Pro until you get used to video editing. Sometimes more precision and choices just make things more difficult to get to grips with.

Ray.

 

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sasiuk wrote on 9/1/2021, 3:34 PM

@TjamzMusic

Hi,

As you hesitate between VEGAS and VPX you certainly have an experience in video production.

If you shoot with the latest cameras in 4K ProRes, XAVC, with ACES workflow, the answer is VEGAS which supports almost all recent formats and codecs and support broadcast color grading.

VEGAS is mainly used by professionals, VPX is suitable for high level hobbyists.

Link to an interview of CTO of the MAGIX video branch (article in german). Google translate will be helpfull.

https://www.videoaktiv.de/praxistechnik/editing-hintergrundinfo/interview-20-jahre-magix-video-deluxe-was-war-was-ist-was-kommt/seite-2.html

DéDé.

TjamzMusic wrote on 9/1/2021, 3:55 PM

Sasiuk thank you for your comment, I now understand the level of both products

CubeAce wrote on 9/1/2021, 4:18 PM

@sasiuk

Hi DéDé.

Thanks a lot for that link.

It verifies everything I've been suspecting for some time. Now it is in black and white.

Why these interviews never seem to make it easy for English speakers to find I will never understand. They are very informative.

Thank you again.

Ray.

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Nalmcruto wrote on 9/1/2021, 4:37 PM

It is clear that the Vegas lite version has been abandoned, and Vegas Team will probably focus 100% on Vegas Pro in the future.  That could push Vegas up faster and faster.  

emmrecs wrote on 9/2/2021, 4:16 AM

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Just for the sake of absolute correctness, the Vegas lite version, aka Vegas Movie Studio, has now become Magix Movie Studio 18. It has not been abandoned.

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Reyfox wrote on 9/2/2021, 5:21 AM

@TjamzMusic all the above comments provide a lot of information for you. But you didn't really give much information on your background in editing, like which programs you've used in the past.

There are differences between Magix (MEP or VPX) and VEGAS in the way they edit. If you are used to editing with the main track on top of all others, then MEP/VPX will be easy to transition to. If you've edited where overlays (titles, PiP, etc) go above the main track, VEGAS edits that way.

Which is easier to use? That depends on "you" and your past editing experiences. Learning VEGAS was easy for me, having used primarily in the past, editors that edit with overlays above the main video track. Using VPX is also easy for me, also having used editors where the main track is above all the tracks. Each brings something to the editing table the other does not have. It comes down to using the right tool for the job you are working on. As the article states, VEGAS is a professional editor, and now it can work with BRAW and ProRes RAW, will require you to do "more" since it really doesn't have templates. I have both....

I would suggest you download the trial version of both software and decide for yourself, which one fits your needs. I would also think that if you have past versions of any of the software, getting the upgrade price can also make a difference in your decision.

ericlnz wrote on 9/2/2021, 5:52 AM

Just for the sake of absolute correctness, the Vegas lite version, aka Vegas Movie Studio, has now become Magix Movie Studio 18. It has not been abandoned.

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That's not entirely true. Vegas Movie Studio has been discontinued by Vegas. VMS17 was the last version. But the name Movie Studio lives on, as a version of Magix Movie Edit Pro now carries the name Magix Movie Studio 18. However it is a different programme to the previous VMS.

This MAGIX_Redaktion post best explains. https://www.magix.info/us/forum/movie-studio-and-vegas--1278720/