Where is the "Multicam: Master audio track" selection? See .pdf excerpt below

jmcguire wrote on 10/2/2012, 5:30 AM

"Right click on the track box of one of the source audio tracks or a different audio track
and select "Multicam: Master audio track" from the context menu to assign a master
audio track for multicam editing. The master audio track will be appear in a dark color."

I could not find this anywhere. Thanks

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gandjcarr wrote on 10/2/2012, 5:57 AM

Hi,

This youtube video that I just made should help you on setting up your master audio track.

Good Luck

jmcguire wrote on 10/2/2012, 6:10 AM

LOL  Easy enough! Do you have anymore videos like that. I'm a noob and hoping to learn quickly but the included .pdf is a little vague

gandjcarr wrote on 10/2/2012, 6:24 AM

Hi,

Welcome to the user forum.  We try to help get people up and running quickly here and the more information you provide the better.  You post was really good because you clearly had read the manual which can often be vague, but I knew exactly what you were asking, so great job asking the question. 

I have a few on my youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/gandjcarr?feature=mhee 

I try to post the videos there whenever I answer a qustion with a video.

I often find that simply showing someone how to do something is faster and more effective than trying to say it with words.

jmcguire wrote on 10/2/2012, 11:32 AM

George

After I accidentally revealed the audio tracks for one video, there are now 3 parts to the audio in Track 4,5 and 6. Which one am I supposed to make the Master audio track for Multicam?

Also, I noticed that the other option listed is "source track". When would I use that?

 

 

Thanks,

Jeff

gandjcarr wrote on 10/2/2012, 11:58 AM

Hi Jeff,

I just want to be clear on something for my own understanding.  So, multi-cam editing assumes that you have recorded something with more than 1 camera at the same time, not that you are trying to mix two video sources.  So for example if you and a friend or or business partner attended and recorded the same wedding and were both recording it at the same time, that would be a viable use for multi-cam.  If that is the case, then you need to choose 1 audio source as the master.  You can move back and forth between audio sources later, but that is a different topic.  Let me know if my description of what multi-cam editing is actually is what you want to do, or is it something else?

George

jmcguire wrote on 10/2/2012, 12:08 PM

Correct! I recorded one wedding ceremony using two AVCHD Sony camcorders (two different angles)

 

 

 

Jeff

gandjcarr wrote on 10/2/2012, 12:38 PM

Thank you Jeff,

I had to ask because I once got caught thinking that I could use "multi-cam" to mix two video sources and of course it was a disaster.

So, listen to the audio track from both cameras pick the best one and choose that as your master audio source.  I do not do any work in AVCHD so I will not be much help there (but johnebaker will likely be on later) and he will be able to offer AVCHD specific comments (I hope).

So now you have your two cameras on the time line and have chosen the master audio track.  You now need to make sure that wichever audio master you have chosen is in synch with what both cameras are recording.  Personally, I would get the two cameras synchronized to 1 audio track before I even entered multi-cam mode.  This could be a little challenging because with any video editor you are pretty much limited to 1 frame which is 1 thirtieth of a second at 30 fps for the audio.  If you used a clap board when you started each camera, it will be easy. If not, not so easy but still can be done.

Once that is done, you just need to switch between camera 1 and camera 2 in terms of what video you want for the final project.

When shooting any video where I am using multiple cameras, I always start both cameras at the same time and use a clap board or some loud sound so that I can later synch the audio, and no camera ever stops recording during the shoot.  I zoom, pan, etc with live audio, and edit the bad stuff out later assuming that when I was zooming with one camera, the other was covering me.  I also usually use a seperate audio recorder which is initiated with the same sound or clap board, that way I have a backup audio source in case I mess something up with the cameras.

Because you are shooting weddings with multiple cameras, I assume that you understand this, but I wanted to point out some of the areas where I have been caught in the past. 

If I did not answer your question, please let me know.

You seem smart and I beleive that you know what you are doing and enjoy helping out.

George

 

jmcguire wrote on 10/2/2012, 1:28 PM

Getting closer...still need help on this first Multicam edit:

I have two video synched, selected a Source tracks, and one of them selected for the Master audio.

3 questions:

1) Why do I still hear the unselected audio track coming through during Multi-cam mode?

2) Why is there a red line above the new Multicam track 1?

3) Why is there stuttering during playback in Multicam mode?

 

Thanks!

Jeff

johnebaker wrote on 10/2/2012, 3:32 PM

Hi

As far as AVCHD is concerned with multi cam mode it is no different from using any other video format.  The important thing is that the sound tracks have distinctive points which MEP can reference to align the two video tracks so that both are showing the same scene which you then edit to produce the finished move.

1.  Do not know why you hear the sound from the unselected audio track - you can mute it if it is causing a problem ( what little multicam work I do I do not use the multicam feature)

2 & 3.  The little red line indicates a section of the movie which can be pre-rendered to make the preview better and avoid stuttering  - click the Eye at the left of the timeline top bar to pre-render.  The red line will turn green when the pre-render has been done and will stay green until you edit that section again when it will turn red again to indicate the section will stuutter and can be rendered again. See this post

The Master Audio track setting is here

HTH

John

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gandjcarr wrote on 10/2/2012, 3:38 PM

Thank you John much apprecaiated.

George

johnebaker wrote on 10/2/2012, 3:42 PM

@ George

Cheers

John

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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