@ericlnz Yep agreed, potentially libellous statement removed by Moderator. Magix know exactly what they are & were doing when they renamed Movie Edit to Movie Studio.

@Windows-user6314 Hi, there is no recent version of Vegas Movie studio - 

Vegas Movie studio was a scaled-down version of Vegas Pro. It was developed by Sony for its first 13 versions. It was sold in Sony's larger 2016 sale of much of its creative software suite to Magix who developed Versions 14 to 17. Magix would later discontinue VEGAS Movie Studio in 2021, in favor of the unrelated Magix Movie Studio which is completely different program & has never had any relation to Vegas Movie Studio..

You can either continue with the lesser Magix Movie Studio that doesn't have an option to 'size and position the entire track', or consider upgrading to Vegas Pro which does have Track Motion & will look, perform & feel just like your old Vegas Movie Studio.

This is Vegas Pro 22 --

@Windows-user6314 Another option is to find out what is causing your problems with your VMS15 and continue using that.

Post over on the Vegas forum and we'll try to help you there https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/vegas-pro-forum/

@Windows-user6314

Hi

Vegas Movie Studio (VMS) and Magix Movie Studio (MMS) have very different workflows.

MMS tracks are universal, ie you do not have defined video/audio tracks, and order of priority, ie track 1 is the 'background', video and images on lower tracks (higher track number) will appear on top of any lower track number.

There is a list of tutorials here to help with familiarisation and how to's for MMS if you decide to stay with MMS

@Gid commented:

. . . Magix Movie Studio that doesn't have an option to 'size and position the entire track . . .

Agreed, however the same 'animation' can be done by other means in MMS.

If the tutorials linked to above do not cover a specific 'animation effect' you are trying to achieve, post a new comment in the forum.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

Hi,

@Windows-user6314  I used to use Vegas Movie Studio 15, then I updated to version 17 until they discontinued it. To this day, some say that it's Vegas' fault (Creative) and others say it's Magix's fault. I understand that it doesn't matter because this discussion is useless. Well, I migrated to Magix Movie Studio 2023 and then 2024. Since this change I've been grateful, because in our life, "nothing is easy". Learning more is always worth it because the angles are different and only you can say what's best (for you, of course, and logically we can't ignore what your colleagues say!). It will be worth it for you to make an effort and follow the MM2025 proposal at least for a while. I haven't stopped evaluating Vegas Pro content until this version and I can certainly repeat what they say: they are different proposals even though Vegas has many more copies sold. Magix is ​​now relearning a new path, because it also has good software. In a few months, if you continue using the MM2025 for the price and benefits, there is no product on the market today that offers what it offers! Good work! I hope so!

Thanks!

Here you also get other tutorials:

https://www.youtube.com/@JCBrownVideos

https://www.youtube.com/@holivar

https://www.youtube.com/@dcpwebdesigners

https://www.youtube.com/c/magnusprod47?app=desktop

To this day, some say that it's Vegas' fault (Creative) and others say it's Magix's fault.

@Roberto-Goncalves It was nobodys "fault". Who is stating this.

As has been stated many times on this forum it was the Vegas team, not Magix, who decided to discontinue VMS so they could concentrate on Vegas Pro as nowadays they are a much smaller team and didn't have the resources to work on both products.

As others have stated, while the software workflow might be different, you can usually achieve the same results but by different ways. That means learning the product, and if stuck, asking in this forum.

For the price, it is an amazing editing software, and at least worth giving it a try.

Or, you should be able to upgrade to Vegas Pro 22 at the Black Friday price. But it costs more than MMS 2025. If short on spending money, invest your time in MMS. You will be surprised at some of the features in it.

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi

. . . . some say that it's Vegas' fault (Creative) and others say it's Magix's fault . . . .

See this comment, hopefully it will put an end to speculation about the demise of Vegas Movie Studio.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Hi,

@Windows-user6314  I used to use Vegas Movie Studio 15, then I updated to version 17 until they discontinued it. To this day, some say that it's Vegas' fault (Creative) and others say it's Magix's fault. I understand that it doesn't matter because this discussion is useless. Well, I migrated to Magix Movie Studio 2023 and then 2024. Since this change I've been grateful, because in our life, "nothing is easy". Learning more is always worth it because the angles are different and only you can say what's best (for you, of course, and logically we can't ignore what your colleagues say!). It will be worth it for you to make an effort and follow the MM2025 proposal at least for a while. I haven't stopped evaluating Vegas Pro content until this version and I can certainly repeat what they say: they are different proposals even though Vegas has many more copies sold. Magix is ​​now relearning a new path, because it also has good software. In a few months, if you continue using the MM2025 for the price and benefits, there is no product on the market today that offers what it offers! Good work! I hope so!

Thanks!

The question is: is it possible to edit audio in this software cause I did not see an audio track anywhere ;( Also I noticed that when I place a video track above an other one, it doesn't display that track. So I am thinking that making cuts and fades between tracks will be a real pain in this software. What do you think? Seems like all the features I liked in Movie Studio 17 are gone and replaced with a terrible way to do things instead. I did render a video to test the renderer and that seems to be much faster, and hopefully less prone to crashing... that was always the issue with Vegas and then Magix Movie Studio IMHO.

I think it's pretty deceptive to replace a software and give the replacement the same name. Had I known that I would have switched to Abobe Premiere Elements. I will have to watch tutorial videos because all the skills I aquired in the last 20 years just went out the window :(

@Calendyr

Hi.

How you want the program to behave is set in the Program Settings set of menus under File/ Settings / Program.

A track is a track. It can contain anything you place on it from a still image to an audio clip or a video. A video file though contains both image and audio and if you want the audio to be separated to an adjoining track, that can be done in the program settings menu. The tracks work from top down with the tracks with higher numbers covering the visual content of the tracks above them with lower track numbers.

If it's any consolation, I had the same learning problems with adding Vegas to my NLE line-up of editing programs after getting used to the Magix alternatives. The Vegas way of working was then not intuitive or easy for me to figure out either but one can get soon get used to it. Why use both? Both have strengths and things the other can't do but tend to be on the fringes of requirements and not needed for most general editing.

MMS rarely ever crashes on my machine and normally caused by something I've done.

Ray.

@Calendyr there was much discussion when the VEGAS development team decided to no longer put out VMS. The "bait and switch" was also discussed about it too. The options are now, learn MMS, stay with VMS or upgrade to Vegas Pro, where it will be like coming home, albeit a little more complex and more costly, but with far more features than ever than what was in VMS.

Magix Movie Studio does edit differently, that is for sure. And some are not able to get around the workflow after a few tracks. But it isn't an insurmountable learning process. And things aren't that hard to find and learn how to use. In addition, there are some really nice features that is a part of the software, and then the price.

As for Adobe Premiere Elements, they are now subscription, albeit every 3 years. That's how long the license is for. I've looked at it out of curiosity, and it's something I would not personally consider using. And it costs more.

@Calendyr

Hi

Did you read the comment I linked to in my previous post!

. . . . I think it's pretty deceptive to replace a software and give the replacement the same name . . . .

To avoid misconception, use the full name, or abbreviation commonly used , ie you had Vegas Movie Studio (VMS), the one you have now is Magix Movie Studio (MMS).

There several other manufacturers who produce video editors which are called which called Movie Studio in one form or another.

. . . . is it possible to edit audio in this software cause I did not see an audio track anywhere . . . .

Yes, you probably have the program setting shown below (yellow arrow) checked, the right object is how it is displayed when this option is turned off and you import a video clip, for existing video clips select them and press Ctrl + H.

I would suggest you also look at this tutorial video list to familiarise yourself with the progrma and how to use it.

HTH

John EB

@Calendyr

Hi.

How you want the program to behave is set in the Program Settings set of menus under File/ Settings / Program.

A track is a track. It can contain anything you place on it from a still image to an audio clip or a video. A video file though contains both image and audio and if you want the audio to be separated to an adjoining track, that can be done in the program settings menu. The tracks work from top down with the tracks with higher numbers covering the visual content of the tracks above them with lower track numbers.

If it's any consolation, I had the same learning problems with adding Vegas to my NLE line-up of editing programs after getting used to the Magix alternatives. The Vegas way of working was then not intuitive or easy for me to figure out either but one can get soon get used to it. Why use both? Both have strengths and things the other can't do but tend to be on the fringes of requirements and not needed for most general editing.

MMS rarely ever crashes on my machine and normally caused by something I've done.

Ray.

I have searched for tutorials on youtube but only found them for other versions (mostly the pro version or earlier platinum versions).

The path you gave to settings is what I was using to define the resolution. Still, the box was 1:1 instead of 16:9

I went through all the menues for like the 5th time and found a way to select the correct ratio for the display.

Glad to read that audio can be seperated from the video on a separate track. I will have a look at that. Same for track orders for priority of display.

Thank you!

@Calendyr there was much discussion when the VEGAS development team decided to no longer put out VMS. The "bait and switch" was also discussed about it too. The options are now, learn MMS, stay with VMS or upgrade to Vegas Pro, where it will be like coming home, albeit a little more complex and more costly, but with far more features than ever than what was in VMS.

Magix Movie Studio does edit differently, that is for sure. And some are not able to get around the workflow after a few tracks. But it isn't an insurmountable learning process. And things aren't that hard to find and learn how to use. In addition, there are some really nice features that is a part of the software, and then the price.

As for Adobe Premiere Elements, they are now subscription, albeit every 3 years. That's how long the license is for. I've looked at it out of curiosity, and it's something I would not personally consider using. And it costs more.

The thing is I have already paid for this version of the software. So I am not interested in paying a lot more for the pro version of Vegas that has features I have no use for. So I will simply try to learn this software. I wish there were tutorials available on youtube for it, but alas I could not find any.

As for Adobe Premiere elements, I have not purchased an Adobe software for over a year, but there is always a stand alone, non-subscription version available if you take the time to find it. I do not use subscription based softwares, they are money grabs and I will not reward that business practice.

@Calendyr

Hi

Did you read the comment I linked to in my previous post!

. . . . I think it's pretty deceptive to replace a software and give the replacement the same name . . . .

To avoid misconception, use the full name, or abbreviation commonly used , ie you had Vegas Movie Studio (VMS), the one you have now is Magix Movie Studio (MMS).

There several other manufacturers who produce video editors which are called which called Movie Studio in one form or another.

. . . . is it possible to edit audio in this software cause I did not see an audio track anywhere . . . .

Yes, you probably have the program setting shown below (yellow arrow) checked, the right object is how it is displayed when this option is turned off and you import a video clip, for existing video clips select them and press Ctrl + H.

I would suggest you also look at this tutorial video list to familiarise yourself with the progrma and how to use it.

HTH

John EB

Yes, I did read it.

The thing is, Vegas Movie Studio was released by Magix when they took over from Sony. They released... what... 4 versions (14 to 17) before switching to this software.... and from what I now understand, they had their own software being called Movie Editor (if I remember correctly) before renaming it to Movie Studio. So yes it is absolutelly bait and switch especially when you consider the fact it is advertised as an upgrade to Vegas Studio.

Thank you for the info about audio tracks. I can't wait to give that a try.

I will have a look at the tutorial videos. I wish they were available on youtube, I would have been very useful yesterday.

@Calendyr

Hi.

Adobe no longer do a 'have for life' version of a video editing software package. What you get is a limited three year use of the version currently on offer for $99. This is the way a lot of software is going now that governments have clamped down on not being able to extricate oneself easily from subscription services without incurring quite bad financial penalties.

We are getting to a point in computing now where we cannot follow Moores law any more. Instead of capability doubling every two years it is currently running at four times that rate and has signs of increasing in future, but with GPUs taking over the needed calculations with different dedicated chips within the die making them more expensive to produce and more demanding of operating systems and the supporting applications as well as using more power. This is frankly crazy from a consumer standpoint and may soon make Macs an enticing alternative if the PC industry isn't careful.

Not to worry. What we can currently do now on our computers we will soon be able to be done on our phones with fold out screens so we can see what we are doing 🤣🤣🤣👍.

Ray.

@Calendyr

Hello,

.....I searched YouTube for tutorials, but only found them for other versions (mostly the pro version or earlier platinum versions).....

If you had taken the time to read my answers on Aspect ratio in Movie Studio 2025, you wouldn't have had to look any further, because you would have seen that @browj2 explains things expertly here.

Anyway, it's up to you whether you want to delve further into Magix Movie Studio 2025 or whether you get stuck in the discussion, that Vegas is a Magix program and/or other movie programs are better.

I wish you the best of luck, whatever your decisions may be.

Best wishes,
Rob

PS. see Movie Studio: All Versions in Comparison what are the differences between MMS2025 Platinum or Suite

@Calendyr

Hi,

As Rob pointed out, my tutorials that are in the TUTORIALS part of this forum are all on my YT channel here under the Playlist Video Programs Tutorials.

The previous name of Magix Movie Studio was Movie Edit Pro. Older tutorials, for the most part, are still pertinent. I am not going to redo tutorials for each version when nothing changed. (Note to self: update the Getting Started and Basic Editing tutorials.)

For various types of projects - normal full HD 16:9, Social media - 1:1, 9:16 etc., you can start your project with whichever you want because the options or templates are on the startup screen.

and, as has been pointed out, you can always change the parameters in the Project Settings under the top menu, File, Settings, Movie or shortcut E.

As I mentioned, Magix Movie Studio has multi-timeline capability, called Movies. This is like having more than 1 project in a project. Each Movie can have different settings. So, you can have a normal 16:9 movie, another one with 1:1, and another with 9:16. The settings for a particular movie extend to Exporting (under File, Export Movie - not the Export button at the top right of the interface) as the default will use the same parameters as the movie.

See below for multiple movies. There are many uses for multiple movies; the preceding is just one of them.

Other than the basic editing tutorials, Size/Position/Rotation, Section, Cookie Cutter, you should watch my 2 tutorials on Everything Audio. Audio capability is extensive in Magix Movie Studio.

John CB

@Calendyr

Hi,

As Rob pointed out, my tutorials that are in the TUTORIALS part of this forum are all on my YT channel here under the Playlist Video Programs Tutorials.

 

John CB

Thanks, I subscribed to your channel and will watch your tutorials as the need arise for specific features.

I would suggest you change the titles of your videos to cover everything relevant. I very likelly saw your videos when I was searching for Movie Studio 2025 and did not click on them because the title was specific for other sofwares and or versions.

@Calendyr

Hi

. . . . Same for track orders for priority of display . . . .

Track 1 is the background video/image, for other video/image/titles to be on top they are put sequentially on higher track numbers see the example and track layout image below for a collage:

Note:

1. Tracks 1 - 5 in the example above are occupied with other video/images so the collage itself has a placeholder on track 1 the actual collage starts on track 6
    
2. The track priority appears to be upside down, however the benefits, compared to other video editors, which build priority track up and push items down as you add more above and have dedicated tracks for video/images and audio, become more apparent with usage - all tracks in MMS are universal.
    
3. Magix have been asked for the ability to switch between the 2 styles, track up and track down to increase familiarity for users coming from the 'track up' editors.

John EB

@Calendyr

Hi,

I would suggest you change the titles of your videos to cover everything relevant. I very likelly saw your videos when I was searching for Movie Studio 2025 and did not click on them because the title was specific for other sofwares and or versions.

Good point!

I'll go through the older ones and update the Description and tags, but doing the titles could possibly add more confusion and there is a limit to the length of titles on YT. The other problem is that there are many users who have not upgraded to a version since the name change.

Magix did not do us any favours by changing the name from Movie Edit Pro to Movie Studio. BTW, the name change was only in English. In other languages, it was and still is, Video Deluxe. In fact, if you look at the exe file, it's videodeluxe.exe.

Further to what John EB mentioned about the track protocol, I look at it as back to front, not top to bottom. Track 1, is at the back, 2 comes in front of, 3 in front of that, and so on. So, your background track is usually on track 1 and stays on track 1 (but doesn't have to be).

MMS has 3 modes, Timeline, Storyboard, and Scene Overview. Storyboard mode only displays objects that are on track 1. Thus, one should try to keep the main objects or background objects on track 1. Many users prefer Storyboard mode for arranging the sequence of objects, and then switch to Timeline mode for detailed editing.

John CB

Good point!

I'll go through the older ones and update the Description and tags, but doing the titles could possibly add more confusion and there is a limit to the length of titles on YT. The other problem is that there are many users who have not upgraded to a version since the name change.

You could put it in the description box and add tags to the versions that the subject covers. I know the lenght for titles is very limited, maybe say something like "And other Magix softwares".

Further to what John EB mentioned about the track protocol, I look at it as back to front, not top to bottom. Track 1, is at the back, 2 comes in front of, 3 in front of that, and so on. So, your background track is usually on track 1 and stays on track 1 (but doesn't have to be).

MMS has 3 modes, Timeline, Storyboard, and Scene Overview. Storyboard mode only displays objects that are on track 1. Thus, one should try to keep the main objects or background objects on track 1. Many users prefer Storyboard mode for arranging the sequence of objects, and then switch to Timeline mode for detailed editing.

Ok, I will give that a try. Thank you! I was gonna stay in Timeline mode. Will see if I like the storyboard mode to positions the videos to edit.