Volume envelope on midi track not being honoured?

mmacneill123 wrote on 12/7/2014, 7:34 AM

Hi guys, this happens with Music Maker 2014 and 2015.  If I use a sample that is a midi file for a track (e.g. one from the sound pool) I can apply a volume envelope in the editor but it is not honoured when playing back, i.e. cannot fade out a track that uses a .MID sample! 

So in the top track the drums fade but in the bottom track the bass does not!

What am I missing?

 

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browj2 wrote on 12/7/2014, 8:30 AM

Hi,

Quick answer without checking, for midi I think that you have to modify the velocity curve using the midi editor.

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cornsy2008 wrote on 12/7/2014, 8:34 AM

Select ALL in the midi editer,the one you want to work the way you want it to.

after SELECT ALL then press NEW.

after pressing new you should have a empty midi track.

THEN press PASTE.

after the paste you can now edit the FADE IN AND OUT.

it works for me.

there is a few ways of doing it but i find it fast and effective.

 

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Procyon wrote on 12/7/2014, 10:21 AM

You can also export just the MIDI file as an audio file, then import it back into the arrangement and apply the fade IN/OUT.

mmacneill123 wrote on 12/15/2014, 2:51 AM

Select ALL in the midi editer,the one you want to work the way you want it to.

after SELECT ALL then press NEW.

after pressing new you should have a empty midi track.

THEN press PASTE.

after the paste you can now edit the FADE IN AND OUT.

it works for me.

there is a few ways of doing it but i find it fast and effective.

 

Thanks for that, sounds the most convincing!  Will give it a try :-)  As for velocity editing, i think velocity isthe attack on the note?  And importing/exporting defeats the object of midi i think!

cornsy2008 wrote on 12/15/2014, 5:27 AM

Select ALL in the midi editer,the one you want to work the way you want it to.

after SELECT ALL then press NEW.

after pressing new you should have a empty midi track.

THEN press PASTE.

after the paste you can now edit the FADE IN AND OUT.

it works for me.

there is a few ways of doing it but i find it fast and effective.

 

Thanks for that, sounds the most convincing!  Will give it a try :-)  As for velocity editing, i think velocity isthe attack on the note?  And importing/exporting defeats the object of midi i think!

 

Use the VOLUME not the VELOCITY of the note.

select all then DRAW a pattern you want. 

then after the draw you should see each note VELOCITY and i a different LENGHT each lenght is a differnet volume. FADE to your hearts content.

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And these inviolable sanctities were preserved in those ten words.

And it is the de-sacralization of all of these that has put us in the mess that we find ourselves.

Isn't it true, alas it is much worse.

A person may end up believing in anything.

You know, if that human acceptance does so much for you and me.

Think of what it is when God himself puts his arms around you and says

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I personally have been mastering for over 14 years now.
i have remixed and engineered for alice deejay.

Please note home mastering and studio mastering are not the same. This is a misconception. the process is different,and while the sound of the polished track may seem the same to the NAKED EAR so to speak actually sound different to the trained ear.

THE TRACKS I WILL BE UPLOADING WILL BE ONLY "HOME" MASTERING. (fast process). music maker defaults are ok but not polished. 

most people are not concerned about the mastering there more comcerned about the FEEL.

i do not work for free so please do not sent me tracks to be mastered (for free). my time is not cheap.

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there are some rules that are just plain idiotic. What are some examples of this behavior, why do people do it? Is it because (This is my assumption) they are afraid of the unknown? They are afraid of taking risk? Or is something that happens during the "nurturing" phase of life with overprotective parents. Maybe it's even a genetic thing.

 

IF I DO NOT LIKE THE MUSIC I WILL "NOT"  WORK WITH IT.

I ONLY EVER WORK WITH MUSIC I PERSONALLY ENJOY.
THIS WAY MY PROFESSIONAL APPROACH CAN BE MET TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS.

 

 

 

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cornsy2008 wrote on 12/15/2014, 5:31 AM

Use the VOLUME not the VELOCITY of the note.

select all then DRAW a pattern you want.

then after the draw you should see each note VELOCITY and i a different LENGHT each lenght is a differnet volume. FADE to your hearts content.

I must admit its not the easy way to to draw a pattern. 
But it does work it might take a while depending on how complicated the pattern your making is.
 

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What happens when life breaks down?

When there is systemic contradiction?
My name symbolized all that was corrupt to society.
His name symbolized all that was pure.

And I was being hailed in the embrace of the man who was pure.

And these inviolable sanctities were preserved in those ten words.

And it is the de-sacralization of all of these that has put us in the mess that we find ourselves.

Isn't it true, alas it is much worse.

A person may end up believing in anything.

You know, if that human acceptance does so much for you and me.

Think of what it is when God himself puts his arms around you and says

"Welcome home".

What love is this?

It is God's love.

And no other love can be defined until that love has properly been understood.

 

 

 

If you can’t make the trip to my studio yourself, don’t worry I now have my brand new Online Mastering Service. Many of my customers are happy to leave me to it, and my wide-ranging experience ensures that you can trust me to make sound judgements on your behalf – no pun intended!

The services on offer include both attended and unattended (online) mastering, vinyl cutting, re-mastering, editing and restoration. For further details please message me here.

A gorgeous room full of lots of lovely equipment isn’t going to cut the mustard unless it’s in the hands of an experienced creative engineer who understands your music and how to get the results you’re looking for.

I personally have been mastering for over 14 years now.
i have remixed and engineered for alice deejay.

Please note home mastering and studio mastering are not the same. This is a misconception. the process is different,and while the sound of the polished track may seem the same to the NAKED EAR so to speak actually sound different to the trained ear.

THE TRACKS I WILL BE UPLOADING WILL BE ONLY "HOME" MASTERING. (fast process). music maker defaults are ok but not polished. 

most people are not concerned about the mastering there more comcerned about the FEEL.

i do not work for free so please do not sent me tracks to be mastered (for free). my time is not cheap.

====================================================================================                                 

there are some rules that are just plain idiotic. What are some examples of this behavior, why do people do it? Is it because (This is my assumption) they are afraid of the unknown? They are afraid of taking risk? Or is something that happens during the "nurturing" phase of life with overprotective parents. Maybe it's even a genetic thing.

 

IF I DO NOT LIKE THE MUSIC I WILL "NOT"  WORK WITH IT.

I ONLY EVER WORK WITH MUSIC I PERSONALLY ENJOY.
THIS WAY MY PROFESSIONAL APPROACH CAN BE MET TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS.

 

 

 

from alan.

peace.!

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