video stabilization problems on burned DVDs

Ralph_S wrote on 6/26/2013, 6:03 PM

I have Video Pro X5. I have used the default stabilization settings and the movie plays well, with effective stabilization, on the computer using VPro, but after I burn a DVD, using standard DVD, i.e. not Blueray or HD, settings the playback is extremently "jumpy", distrubingly so. What have I done wrong, or what setting do I need to change?

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Scenestealer wrote on 6/26/2013, 11:07 PM

Hi Ralph

You need to post some detailed information on the format, frame rate, Interlaced or progressive, etc of your original footage and the .VOB files created on the disc. You can analyse this with a free program called Media info and copy and paste the text file in the forum.

I suspect you may be seeing interlacing or field order, or scaling problems.

Ss

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emmrecs wrote on 6/27/2013, 5:13 AM

Just to add to what Peter has already written: is this "jumpiness" in the same place(s) on the video as those to which you have applied the stabilization?  Or is it more, seemingly, "random"?

As I think he is suggesting, the use of stabilization may actually have nothing to do with your problem.

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Ralph_S wrote on 6/27/2013, 7:06 PM

This project has both images and movie segments (non-stabilized and stabilized. I know that the images play back fine, and I am pretty sure that the non-stabilized segments do also, but I will verify tonight.

In terms of using "MediaInfo", what movie (segment?) info do you need, i.e. the original movie segment pre-stabilized, or the final burned movie on the DVD?

Thanks for your time.

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Running: Windows 11 Home (10.0.22621 Build 22621), ASUSTeK 64b ROG Zephyrus M16 GU603ZW, 16 GM RAM, Intel i9-12900H, 2500 Mhz; Intel Iris Xe Graphics(1GB, v31.0.101.4502); NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (1GB,v31.0.15.3667)

Ralph_S wrote on 6/28/2013, 10:40 AM

The problem is definantly associated with the stabilized movie segments. Here is the information on the pre-stabilization movie segment:

AVCHD Burn settings:

DVD movie post stabilization:

Thanks for your help.

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Running: Windows 11 Home (10.0.22621 Build 22621), ASUSTeK 64b ROG Zephyrus M16 GU603ZW, 16 GM RAM, Intel i9-12900H, 2500 Mhz; Intel Iris Xe Graphics(1GB, v31.0.101.4502); NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (1GB,v31.0.15.3667)

emmrecs wrote on 6/29/2013, 5:09 AM

You said in your original post that you were burning a "standard DVD, i.e.not Bluray or HD" but the screen shots you have given show you're actually burning Bluray or, more likely AVCHD DVD!

Is that what you intended?

If so, only a BD player will play it, hence your problems of excessive "jumpiness".

Jeff

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Ralph_S wrote on 6/29/2013, 2:58 PM

I did originally burn using "Standard DVD" setting, but after the suggestions below I realized that the original movies were AVCHD, therefore I tried that setting. Yes I did play on a Bluray player, and although the problem was not as bad using the "AVCHD settings" the jitteriness is it still is very noticeable. When my wife saw a segment of this, she asked "are you having a seizure?!" If this cannot be corrected, I will be forced to remove all stabilization.

Thanks for your time!

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Scenestealer wrote on 6/30/2013, 6:26 PM

Was your original footage 50fps progressive by any chance.

Also is it jumpy only when playing from a disc, or does the file created in the disc image folder on your computer play better in Media Player?

Peter

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Ralph_S wrote on 7/1/2013, 6:04 PM

The original video clip, according to the details give below from Media Info program, was 29.97 FPS. The video file created in the image folder on my computer is very jittery. So it does not have anything to do with the burning to the DVD.

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Running: Windows 11 Home (10.0.22621 Build 22621), ASUSTeK 64b ROG Zephyrus M16 GU603ZW, 16 GM RAM, Intel i9-12900H, 2500 Mhz; Intel Iris Xe Graphics(1GB, v31.0.101.4502); NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (1GB,v31.0.15.3667)

Scenestealer wrote on 7/2/2013, 6:03 AM

So did removing the stabilisation fix the problem?

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Ralph_S wrote on 7/2/2013, 12:22 PM

Yes, but still has the natural camera motion of a handheld camera.

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Running: Windows 11 Home (10.0.22621 Build 22621), ASUSTeK 64b ROG Zephyrus M16 GU603ZW, 16 GM RAM, Intel i9-12900H, 2500 Mhz; Intel Iris Xe Graphics(1GB, v31.0.101.4502); NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti (1GB,v31.0.15.3667)