Video Pro X12 - Newblue Elements not working/registered?

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Clifford-Bowman wrote on 1/6/2024, 9:21 AM

@Clifford-Bowman

Hi Cliff. I did say to turn anything within the NB effect that has Bur attached to the slider control to off.

And I, for my part, completely ignored that advice. Mea culpa. I'll learn, eventually. There was indeed a "Motion Blur" slider that, when dragged to 0 (I cannot get the text box entry to work for me) clears up that blur nicely without turning off the "animation" (which does nothing for me except blur the image and make it smaller). :(

It's intriguing to me that even when the start and end positions are identical, motion blur still causes blurring. It's obviously not as straightforward as I am used to with motion blur being somewhat affected by the start and end position.

The effect can easily be done in Size, Position, Rotation instead as John suggests. It just takes a little while longer.

Sort-of, maybe. I don't know how to do keyframing in VProX yet, but it looks like John has even included a handy-dandy link to a tutorial on that for me. If we take into account reading his posts and the tutorial I suspect it will take longer than the NewBlue effect SHOULD have - but in reality it's going to end up being an order of magnitude faster than posts back-and-forth or waiting for NewBlue customer support to respond.

That png problem went away with the upgraded GPU. I am now sure It is down to the amount of vram on the card as I can now induce that behaviour easily just as an experiment by maxing out the cards vram.

 

I've tried using a JPG instead of the PNG, with no discernible difference.

 

After your comment on piracy I looked up a chart from November this year of which countries did the most pirating of software per capita. I was both shocked and pleasantly surprised.

1. China
2. Russia
3. United States
4. India
5. Brazil
6. Vietnam
7. Ukraine
8. Iran
9. Italy
10. Taiwan

11. France
12. Turkey
13. Germany
14. Mexico
15. Indonesia
16. South Korea
17. Hong Kong
18. Australia
19. United Kingdom
20. Peru

It must be a cultural thing 🤣.

Ray.

Being British (even stuffier - English) our position in the piracy league tables doesn't surprise me. That kind of thing just isn't cricket, old chap! China and Russia come as no surprise - they have ummm slightly different attitudes to "intellectual property" as a whole. But I'm disappointed in America. I would have hoped for better from a country often considered close in many respects to the UK. Good on Australia though!

I have had a closer look at the original png file and it is showing a lot of compression artefacts, visible in the blue T-shirt, suggesting a high degree of compression has been applied at some stage in getting from the source image to the png file you have.

 

It's horrific but most, if not all, of the artifacts are actually in the "source" video. There is no "better" to be had. I've probably made it slightly worse by scaling the image up (supposedly with our favourite new buzzword "AI") but essentially it's not a great camcorder or expert team. This image - and those of the other 2 judges - were snapped from between people crowding the "stage". It should have been a section of full 1920 x 1080 video but you can't make out the judges from either camera through the crowd, so I'm very much in a position of making the best out of what I've got. Think of it as a school play but with adult-sized people and teachers who are great at teaching but have no experience in "show business" and you'll probably have a better idea of what I've got to work with. It's not going to be the next Oscar-winner, but it's going to please a whole bunch of carers and other relatives - that's good enough for me :)

Possibly scarily, the quality has only risen this far after incremental improvements over the years. No, seriously.

The final FINAL end result will only need to be DVD quality, so with the assistance of those in this thread it's going to be better than it would otherwise have been.

Cheers,

 

Cliff

 

PS On the topic of piracy, I decided to try and find some pirated Magix products. I can't speak as to how many had extra malware added, or how many had a better installation experience than direct from Magix (because I was LOOKING not DOWNLOADING) but the sheer number of pirated Magix products - right up to date with the current major version numbers - was an eye-opener. It really doesn't look like DRM is doing what it's meant to :(

DRM certainly isn't the reason I'm using paid product rather than pirated programs (it's my British stiff upper lip).

PPS yes - it was the world's most publicised piracy site. I was aiming for what would be easy to find.

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PC: Alienware Aurora R7
CPU: i7-800K @ 3.70GHz
RAM: 32 GB
OS: Video Pro X12 installed on Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, on Samsung SSD 980 (800+GB partition)
OS: Also available, Windows 11, on Samsung SM961 NVMe  SSD (240+ GB partition)
OS : For gaming, Windows 10 on an OCS-AGILITY3 SATA SSD (450GB partition)
Shared Data Storage: Local storage is on a Samsung SSD 870 EVO (3.5TB partition)
Partition sizes approximate.
Display adapters : Intel UHD Graphics on M/B, basically unused
Twin NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (11GB RAM each, SLI linked for "Maximum 3D performance") ). Drivers up-to-date using GeForce Experience. No change except slowing down and more crashes from disabling SLI
Video ProX12 video modes:
Preview in arranger:
Standard mode (Direct3D, hardware acceleration) - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (changing this to Intel UHD causes majopr crashes)
or
Compatability mode (VideoForWindows))
Preview and playback on analog recording:
Standard Renderer
or
Alternate mode 2 (Video Mixing Renderer9)
Screen: 256 x 1080 @ 60Hz, RGB, SDR (LG)

 

 

Clifford-Bowman wrote on 1/6/2024, 11:12 AM

You do need to learn how to use Keyframing - if you are not familiar with it - see the View/Animation tutorials in this list

 

Hi John - even though I'm using VProX 12 and these tutorials are for a newer version, I believe I can make really great use of this information - many many thanks!

Cheers,

Cliff

PC: Alienware Aurora R7
CPU: i7-800K @ 3.70GHz
RAM: 32 GB
OS: Video Pro X12 installed on Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, on Samsung SSD 980 (800+GB partition)
OS: Also available, Windows 11, on Samsung SM961 NVMe  SSD (240+ GB partition)
OS : For gaming, Windows 10 on an OCS-AGILITY3 SATA SSD (450GB partition)
Shared Data Storage: Local storage is on a Samsung SSD 870 EVO (3.5TB partition)
Partition sizes approximate.
Display adapters : Intel UHD Graphics on M/B, basically unused
Twin NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (11GB RAM each, SLI linked for "Maximum 3D performance") ). Drivers up-to-date using GeForce Experience. No change except slowing down and more crashes from disabling SLI
Video ProX12 video modes:
Preview in arranger:
Standard mode (Direct3D, hardware acceleration) - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (changing this to Intel UHD causes majopr crashes)
or
Compatability mode (VideoForWindows))
Preview and playback on analog recording:
Standard Renderer
or
Alternate mode 2 (Video Mixing Renderer9)
Screen: 256 x 1080 @ 60Hz, RGB, SDR (LG)

 

 

CubeAce wrote on 1/6/2024, 5:31 PM

@Clifford-Bowman

Hi Cliff.

I do understand that sometimes the files you get from others are less than desirable and difficult to work with.

If it would be acceptable you could make the image look slightly better by shrinking the Pip by 15% and adding a very slight amount of sharpening.

As for the piracy list, I got that from a company that makes money by getting affected companies suffering from copyright theft to either try to sue governments like China or instigate new piracy laws and enforce more strongly the takedown of illegal download links so such companies can receive an amount of compensation. Although these these cracked versions often work apparently they can still be tracked if used on a computer with internet access.

Ray.

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CubeAce wrote on 1/6/2024, 6:23 PM

@Former user @Clifford-Bowman @johnebaker

Hi Gid.

There is something definitely screwy going on with SPR in my earlier copy of MEP. It may be fixed later versions as it works in VPX.

With both flying Pip open and Size Position Rotation. If I make any adjustments across the timeline in SPR the Key Frames get recorded to Flying Pip and not SPR. You can also see one of the sliders in Flying pip responding to the alterations.

I think a similar thing may be happening to my Blurry transition problem.

Ray.

 

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Clifford-Bowman wrote on 1/19/2024, 10:34 AM

Many thanks to @johnebaker and @CubeAce - thanks to you the charity is very happy with the preview, possibly especially the "flying picture in picture" introduction of the judges (although they seemed to quite like a 4-speed squeaky section later on too). I'm having crashing problems in another area - but this problem has been squashed thanks to your help.

 

Cheers!

PC: Alienware Aurora R7
CPU: i7-800K @ 3.70GHz
RAM: 32 GB
OS: Video Pro X12 installed on Windows 10 Pro, 22H2, on Samsung SSD 980 (800+GB partition)
OS: Also available, Windows 11, on Samsung SM961 NVMe  SSD (240+ GB partition)
OS : For gaming, Windows 10 on an OCS-AGILITY3 SATA SSD (450GB partition)
Shared Data Storage: Local storage is on a Samsung SSD 870 EVO (3.5TB partition)
Partition sizes approximate.
Display adapters : Intel UHD Graphics on M/B, basically unused
Twin NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (11GB RAM each, SLI linked for "Maximum 3D performance") ). Drivers up-to-date using GeForce Experience. No change except slowing down and more crashes from disabling SLI
Video ProX12 video modes:
Preview in arranger:
Standard mode (Direct3D, hardware acceleration) - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (changing this to Intel UHD causes majopr crashes)
or
Compatability mode (VideoForWindows))
Preview and playback on analog recording:
Standard Renderer
or
Alternate mode 2 (Video Mixing Renderer9)
Screen: 256 x 1080 @ 60Hz, RGB, SDR (LG)

 

 

CubeAce wrote on 1/19/2024, 10:46 AM

@Clifford-Bowman

No problem. Glad to help.

We often learn at the same time of something we may not have encountered before, so can be useful.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 1/19/2024, 1:19 PM

@Clifford-Bowman

Hi

Thank you for the feedback.

John EB

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