video clips don't play

kate-m wrote on 11/16/2021, 2:17 AM

Hi everyone :-)

the video clips and transition effects i have worked on before, cannot be seen and jerk and stutter as i play them. It may have something to do with my new graphics card. Does anybody know how i could fix this?

Thanks :-)

Kate

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CubeAce wrote on 11/16/2021, 4:12 AM

@kate-m

Hi Kate.

Can you give us a screen grab of the Program Settings / Device options tab?

Ray.

 

 

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kate-m wrote on 11/17/2021, 1:55 PM

Hey Ray,

sure, but i don't know where to find them?

Do i find those in MEP? Or in my Windows 10?

Thanks :-)

Kate

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CubeAce wrote on 11/17/2021, 2:01 PM

@kate-m

In the program Kate.

File / Program settings /Device options.

Ray.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 11/17/2021, 2:13 PM

@kate-m

Hi

Is this the same computer as your previous topics ie:

MAGIX Movie Edit Pro Premium\2021

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120

or have you updated to Movie Edit Pro 2022.

The screenshot @CubeAce asked for is in Movie Edit Pro (MEP).

If you still using MEP 2021, then the required screenshot is in File, Program settings, Display options tab.

If you have upgraded to MEP 2022 then the required screenshot is the Device options tab.

HTH

John EB
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kate-m wrote on 11/17/2021, 2:28 PM

Hey Ray, John EB,

when i go to File i can select Settings, and there i can choose (among others) Program.

I'd like to make a screenshot of it, but it seems it's only possible to make a screenshot of our conversation here, but not of the Program Settings.

Under "Display options" there are check marks in "Allow stereo editing" and "Allow interlacing"

and "Video mode" has "Standard mode (Direct3D, hardware acceleration)" and "NVIDIA GeForce GT 710" (which is my new graphics card)

Does this info help you? Or how could i make a screen grab of it?

Thanks :-)

Kate

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CubeAce wrote on 11/17/2021, 3:06 PM

@kate-m

Hi Kate.

Yes that helps.

Unfortunately that graphics card is not new enough to be used well in MEP. It is several generations behind current offerings and nvidia has stopped producing driver updates for it. It may not function as it should. I don't think the card supports NVENC for encoding but I could be wrong. @johnebaker knows more about that.

If you have the settings set for that card in all the boxes (Import / Processing / Export) and it is giving the performance you describe then I'm afraid that is the most probable cause.

You can try activating the use of proxy files and see if that helps or reduce the resolution of the playback or reduce the size of the playback monitor.

If none of that works I would sell your current card and look for a newer one. Preferably an nvidia 1060 or the cheaper 1650 Super. In the mean time if it doesn't work try using the Microsoft WARP option.

Ray

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johnebaker wrote on 11/17/2021, 4:12 PM

@kate-m, @CubeAce

Hi

As you have the Display options tab then I assume you are still using MEP 2021.

The GeForce GT 710 which cannot be used at all by MEP 2021 as MEP 2021 does not support the older CUDA decoding/encoding. for completeness, MEP 2022, also cannot use the GT 710 as the graphics card does not support NVENC according to the Nvidia NVENC decoding/encoding matrix, though some info suggest it does, however with very limited capability.

This means the processor is doing all the work if you are still using the Intel i3-2120 which having 2 cores is most likely being overloaded so playback is as you described.

Using proxy files is a possible solution, however the creation of these may take some time.

Ray has suggested getting a GTX 1060 or better, however these may not be supported by the computers motherboard.

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CubeAce wrote on 11/17/2021, 4:31 PM

@kate-m @johnebaker

I'm afraid John is correct.

I forgot that processor and motherboard is probably stuck at PCI Express* 2.0. That will not accept those graphics cards.

Sorry.

Ray.

 

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kate-m wrote on 11/17/2021, 4:38 PM

Hey Ray, John,

before i installed my new graphics card, i had a much older one on board my computer, and MEP worked. Maybe there is a way to activate this newer graphic card?

Any ideas?

Thanks :-)

Kate

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kate-m wrote on 11/17/2021, 4:40 PM

my program settings has several headers: Playback, Folder, Video/Audio, System, Import/Export , but only Display options shows my graphic card

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32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

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CubeAce wrote on 11/17/2021, 6:32 PM

@kate-m

my program settings has several headers: Playback, Folder, Video/Audio, System, Import/Export , but only Display options shows my graphic card

That is correct.

It could be that if the old graphics card was not recognised by the program at all and that you were purely using the CPU. You never mentioned before having another GPU. Any idea what it was?

before i installed my new graphics card, i had a much older one on board my computer, and MEP worked. Maybe there is a way to activate this newer graphic card?

If it is showing in the Import / Processing / Export boxes of the program settings it is in use. Just not able to work effectively.

Ray.

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kate-m wrote on 11/18/2021, 12:08 PM

Hey Ray,

i just looked for the Import / Processing / Export boxes of the MEP program settings, but i'm not sure what you mean. I wish i could send you a screen shot of my program settings, but it seems impossible to take one. Do you mean the headers: Playback, Folder, Video/Audio, System, Display options, Import/Export?

In the Import/Export of the Program settings i unfortunately cannot find my graphics card. It has two boxes checked which read "Hardware acceleration for playback if possible" and "Hardware encoding during export where possible", and under "Other" a box is checked reading "Automatically preview exported clips" , and then there is a scroll down box entitled: "Import Formats" with lots of import stuff inside, but not with my graphics card.

Maybe i am looking in the wrong places?

And which headers do you mean by Processing?

As to the old graphics card, i gave it to my friend who recommended me to buy the "NVIDIA GeForce GT 710". I will ask him what it was called and let you know.

Thanks :-)

Kate

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32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

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CubeAce wrote on 11/18/2021, 1:33 PM

@kate-m

Hi Kate.

I forgot you are on MEP 2021 not MEP 2022. Yes that would be the "Hardware acceleration for playback if possible" and "Hardware encoding during export where possible", and even with that version of MEP it can't take advantage of that graphics card. It is too old and does not have the correct internal structures to work with the versions of MEP using the Infusion Engine, nor does it have the latest driver support needed to work well within Windows 10.

The current prices of graphics cards are artificially high due to the lack of the required chips needed for production and it may remain that way for the next year or two. Certainly nvidia and AMD seem in no hurry to start making the lower priced reasonably specified cards again for some time. Your card is even older than the one I had to upgrade to get MEP 2019 to work. That was the nvidia GTX 1030.

But as John has pointed out you can't use a newer graphics card as your motherboard is too old to support one so your friend probably recommended the highest performing card you could use in your system. He was probably not wrong. He just didn't know the requirements of the program. The website still in my opinion does not make that absolutely clear.

Your processor came out when Win 98 64 bit and Win 7 was around. Although it can cope with Win 10, it can't cope with the additional capabilities it offers with certain programs including most video editors. I think personally all video editors but can't be certain because I haven't tried them all.

I'm afraid there is no feasible upgrade path for that system to improve its performance.

Sorry.

Ray.

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Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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kate-m wrote on 11/18/2021, 3:22 PM

Hey Ray,

my old graphics card is still on board (i thought we had removed it) but the hdmi plug is broken, which is why i got the newer graphics card. I will think about getting a new computer (the project i am working on at the moment needs to be done soon, so the best thing right now would be to figure out if MEP can run on my CPU for now)?

Thanks :-)

Kate

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32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Windows 10 Pro

21H2

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Premium\2020\Videodeluxe

johnebaker wrote on 11/18/2021, 3:32 PM

@kate-m

Hi

To take a screen shot ensure the required tab/setting etc is visible and press the PrtScn or Print Screen button on the keyboard, this saves the image to the 'Clipboard'

Open your favourite image editor, if you don't have one and are not familiar with image editing :use the Paint app in Windows.

  1. Paste the image into the image editor, in Paint the icon is top left of the File tab, see image below which also shows the Import Export tab in MEP.

     
  2. It is best to crop the image using the Select and Crop tool to get rid of unnecessary parts of the image - using the Select tool drag a box around the part of the image required and click the Crop button.

     
  3. Save the image as a JPG file.
  4. Upload the jpg file in a comment using the Media upload button .

If you need advice on a new computer there are a couple of topics in the forum which may help.

HTH

John EB

 

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CubeAce wrote on 11/18/2021, 4:15 PM

@kate-m

Hi Kate.

The best bet would be to disable the card by not ticking the "Hardware acceleration for playback if possible" and "Hardware encoding during export where possible" boxes and rely on the CPU alone.

That may still present problems. For one, the playback may well be jerky although that should not effect the export but will make editing a chore even if you use proxy files.

The export though may take more than a few hours. It was taking my old system up to eighteen hours just to export ten minutes of HD resolution video (dependent on the effects used etc.) Worse, because of the time needed and the CPU running almost constantly at full output, the heat build up gets close to and could exceed the maximum operating temperature of the GPU either causing the machine to shut down or the program to crash or in theory destroy the CPU unless the standard CPU cooler is replaced by a much larger and more capable one. I had to constantly monitor my CPU temperature and often pause the export until it had cooled down. (sometimes every ten minutes) That can get very tiresome and in the end before I bought enough components to basically build a new machine I bought a replacement CPU cooler for the old system as they are relatively cheap at around £30. That meant I could leave the machine on its own until it had finished.

Ray.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

kate-m wrote on 11/19/2021, 9:37 AM

Hey John,

thanks so much.

i'll try it as soon as i can.

have a lovely day :-)

Kate

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Windows 10 Pro

21H2

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Premium\2020\Videodeluxe

kate-m wrote on 11/19/2021, 9:43 AM

Hey Ray,

you saved my day!

I'm happily editing away on my CPU. And will export a short video soon, to see if that works out. Luckily for this current project my videos will only be a few minutes long. So i hope exporting with my CPU will work out. For my green screen project of the summer i will continue next year, and then i will probably need a new computer / camera (we'll see), because those films will probably be at least 30 minutes long.

have a great day :-)

Kate

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Windows 10 Pro

21H2

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Premium\2020\Videodeluxe

kate-m wrote on 11/19/2021, 6:38 PM

Hey Ray,

exporting my short video was successful :-D :-D :-D !!!

(jump for joy :-D !!!)

Thanks a million for your help!

Kate

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz 2.90 GHz

32,0 GB (31,9 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Windows 10 Pro

21H2

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650

MAGIX\Movie Edit Pro Premium\2020\Videodeluxe

CubeAce wrote on 11/19/2021, 6:57 PM

@kate-m

Hi Kate.

Glad to help. Keep an eye on the CPU temperature if you can.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5608

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

AAProds wrote on 11/19/2021, 7:28 PM

I have never had a system crash because of a CPU overheat. I thought Intel CPUs throttle themselves when they get hot so they don't crash (or "destroy" themselves). Before I changed to a liquid cooler, my i5 would run for hours at 95° during encoding. It is now 10 years old and still going like it was new. My system is similar to Kate's: no effective GPU at all. It's using my CPU only.

I'd certainly suggest the use of Proxy files: as JohnEB points out, they take a while to create (MEP creates an MXV of each of your original files and uses those MXVs for editing) but will make editing much smoother.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

CubeAce wrote on 11/20/2021, 3:53 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

My old processor often got to 98°c during long exports and would have kept climbing. Anything above 85°c will have some detrimental effect on a processor over time. I always try to keep my operating temperatures below 56°c and they rarely go above 64°c.

Motherboards that had separate thermostatic probes often failed if temps got too high. Mine would reboot, crashing the program. Different processors have had different thermal ratings over the years.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5608

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

AAProds wrote on 11/20/2021, 9:01 AM

I suggest we not worry about CPU overheats until symptoms that indicate that it may be happening appear, especially since Kate appears to have previously been using MEP successfully with the old graphics card (which probably wasn't doing anything).

The spec sheet on Kate's processor says this:

Thermal Monitoring Technologies

Thermal Monitoring Technologies protect the processor package and the system from thermal failure through several thermal management features. An on-die Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) detects the core's temperature, and the thermal management features reduce package power consumption and thereby temperature when required in order to remain within normal operating limits.

Interesting reading here:

https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/support/articles/000005597/processors.html

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

CubeAce wrote on 11/20/2021, 11:43 AM

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn.

Did you find the exact processor?

The complete specs for it are here

The page you send me to is about current offerings. Not older processors.

When you get down to the operating temperature section please press the button next to it with the ?

It will take you to this page.

At no time am I worried, just giving what I consider sensible advice on an older system that may not over the years been cleaned internally or maintained.

At present Kate's projects have been short. Things could change should a project get longer. Worried, no. Cautious,yes.

Ray

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5608

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."