I couldn't agree more John. I thought I was OK having carried out a system restore and reverting back to version 24.0.1.221 but unfortunately I was wrong.

MS is now very tempremental, locking up at the slightest excuse. Obviously some files have been updated that would like the new version and are rebeling by having to use the old version.

I sent an email to both ABSoft (Neat Video) and Magix a couple of days ago but no reply yet.

What is even more alarming is that every time I load up MS2025, the popup appears offering me the version 24.0.1.227 update - I haven't cancelled it because I want to see how long this takes.

AndyW

Wow, frightening. No sooner do I post the above than I receive an email from ABSoft.

I told them I wasn't very pleased with the situation.It's quite a long email so here is the important bit:

"Yes, I am also not happy with Magix and their behavior. They told me that they found the cause of the problem and are going to fix it and release an update (last week). Yet there is nothing so far."

The more people that complain to Magix the better.

AndyW

@me_again

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the update.

I just wrote up a nasty to Magix using the form in my account. When I clicked on send, poof, I was logged out and no ticket was raised. Fortunately, I decided at the last second to copy the text to the clipboard. I'll do it again through Support in this forum.

For what it's worth, I added in a couple of other complaints - the PTF problem in VPX not working properly since 2023, and the Sound Forge Audio Cleaning Lab 4 problems. It's ridiculous that Magix has not corrected these bugs. SFACL4 should work and work with VPX/MMS like every previous version of ACL.

As you pointed out, I, too, noticed that the patch is still being offered - on my laptop. I pointed this out to Magix. Why keep pushing out a defective patch!

John CB

Latest update

Changes - version 24.0.1.227:

Feature:

- AI smoothing available under video effects

Stability:

- Fixed crash during automatic shutdown after export

- Fixed crash when loading a project with an empty arrangement window

- Fixed crash when removing a CPU-intensive OFX AI effect during playback

- Fixed crash when drawing thumbnails - Fixed crash when scrolling quickly with many elements in the folder

- Fixed crash when importing files with AC3 audio

- Certain HEIC files are no longer imported in black and white

- Various minor stability adjustments

AndyW

Hi all, is this the full list of updates?

I don't want to cause a stir or have any kind of pissing contest but reg these frustrated comments, the update list above, what I read in the other post about MMS/VPX speculated future & the unmentionable V___s P__ 👿 was mentioned ..

So I just want to share info of how VP is doing vs the update above....

I upgraded to VP22 from VP21 on the 29/07/24, VP21 had 6 build releases, 315 was a patch for 314 so 5 releases really, VP22 has had 5 update releases, 239 was a fix for a variable frame issue that was in 237 so again 4 releases in reality.

VEGAS Pro 22.0.0.239

VEGAS Pro 22.0.0.237 (note this bug)

VEGAS Pro 22.0.0.194

VEGAS Pro 22.0.0.122

VEGAS Pro 22.0.0.93

Each release over the last few yrs has looked like this (pic below), a lot of it is bug fixes like the MMS list above & there's been major changes in VP over the last few yrs so the comparison maybe disproportionate, but I see a lot of work being done on the VP side of Magix & dare I say minimal work done on the MMS side.

vegas-pro-vegas-post-release-history

@Gid

Hi,

The patches for MMS/VPX are listed under MAGIX Hub, New Features or by clicking on the Feedback button in the top menu:

That's it, that's all.

As we know from the Vegas forum, during insolvency, the Vegas Team was able to increase its staff.

On the Magix side in Germany, staff was decreased by voluntary retirements, or rather, many people just quit. The Samplitude/Sequoia team was the most active, with upgrades and many patches released, along with a lot of involvement on their forum (not this forum). So, one could compare the attention that Samplitude/Sequoia got with Vegas. Second, was Music Maker that had quite a makeover in the way that effects were accessed, amongst other changes. Last and least were the video/photo programs. PhotoStory got more attention as it has some features that are yet to be implemented in VPX/MMS. The other programs languished.

Magix created MAGIX Capture for VPX/MMS. Why, defeats all logic. No one asked for this did they? And, Magix messed it up (no mono audio recording, records to MP3 at 44.1kHz instead of Wave at 48 kHz. Why do this instead of fixing SFACL4, making it work properly with VPX/MMS and on its own? If SFACL4 worked properly with SpectraLayers Elements, it would be fantastic; it doesn't. At least SpectraLayers can be used as a standalone. Magix sells SFACL4 separately, so there is another potential revenue stream.

Over the last couple of years, Vegas has suffered with the loss of Vegas Post - Hitfilm and Image. On the VPX/MMS side, Magix and Xara divorced. At least Xara still works somewhat to create overlay graphics/animations, but Photo Designer (Xara) and CDPrinter (XaraXtreme) both disappeared. Hopefully Xara 3D Maker will still be around for several years.

VPX/MMS got AI Smooth recently, without fanfare. In both programs, AI Smoothing still shows up under MAGIX Hub, User Feedback as started - waiting for users to like that. I guess that no one monitors Feedback.

@me_again

Hi Andy,

I quickly received a reply back from ABSoft (Neat Video). They had just reminded Magix again to fix this and Magix replied that they are trying to publish it asap and to watch for an update from Magix. I'm turning blue holding my breathe.

John CB