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CubeAce wrote on 11/14/2022, 3:33 AM

@tiisetso-masisi

Hi, and welcome to the user to user forums.

That export time sounds about right for a system CPU with with only six cores, no hardware acceleration capabilities. No internal CPU GPU or separate graphics card.

Video processing, decoding the video codec, rearranging and placing cuts, blending fades or processing any added effects and then re-encoding the file is very computer intensive without the aid of of the specialized help of particular graphics processing units. While it can be done only using a CPU it is a very slow process. Hence the minimum specs page on the website for people to check that their hardware will cope with the program as advertised. Also please be aware they are absolute minimum specs and ideally should be exceeded to decrease the export times. The higher the specification of a system, the less time a given export takes.

Ray.

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emmrecs wrote on 11/14/2022, 3:45 AM

@tiisetso-masisi

In addition to what @CubeAce has written (all of which I wholeheartedly agree with) I would ask you to either remove or edit the image you posted, since it includes both your computer's Device and Product IDs, which could be used to hijack it.

I can remove the image completely from your post but for the sake of others who might wish to help I would rather that you edit it, please!

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johnebaker wrote on 11/14/2022, 3:59 AM

@tiisetso-masisi

Hi

What is the graphics card installed in the PC.

. . . . the software take over 20hrs to export a 2hours Video . . . .

This is quiet possible depending on several factors which you have not mentioned ie:

  • The source video and export formats/resolution being used?
  • What effects have been applied to the video in the project
  • Are the Graphics card drivers up to date?
  • The program settings Device Options, Import, Processing and Export settings being used.

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CubeAce wrote on 11/14/2022, 6:36 AM

@emmrecs @johnebaker

Hi Guys.

I have edited one of the images above. One of you could now delete the Images.

Ray.

 

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emmrecs wrote on 11/14/2022, 7:49 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

Thanks! Original image deleted.

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tiisetso-masisi wrote on 11/14/2022, 1:23 PM

Thank you Guys, does this mean that I have to build another PC or buy a separate graphics card ? I think I was misled when I was buying my Pc...honestly speaking I am not clued up when it comes to computers. What steps can I take in this case since 20hrs is too long and we are experiencing everyday power cuts In south africa

Thank you very much for taking urb time to assist me, I really appreciate all your efforts

Promidi wrote on 11/14/2022, 2:00 PM

The system specs for Movie Studio 2023 Platinum can be found here.

https://www.magix.com/au/video-editing/movie-studio/specifications/#c1477846

Bear in mind these should be deemed absolute bare minimum specs.

If you are “experiencing everyday power cuts In South Africa”, one item you might want to consider is a reliable uninterruptible power supply (UPS).

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CubeAce wrote on 11/14/2022, 2:16 PM

@tiisetso-masisi

Hi.

This is my opinion based on my personal experiences and near the edge now of what my system is capable of with the latest video editing software from Magix.

A lot will depend on what you are editing. 4k video needs much more processing than normal HD content. Video from mobile phones can be surprisingly more demanding then from a dedicated camcorder. Hence the questions asked by @johnebaker

The CPU you have is new enough but lower mid tier for video processing. Relatively low clock speed, probably good for gaming but not much for video editing. Ideally you would be looking at an Intel 10th gen i7 processor or newer with an inboard GPU as well as an nvidia graphics card at least a 1060 or 1650 minimum to cope well with 4k and some effects used within the project and a minimum of 32 GB or ram. If you only are going to use HD or lower resolution files then the specs could come down a bit to an i5 CPU and a 1050 nvidia card although perversely since the new nvidia cards are so expensive, the older model cards are much more expensive right now than they should be. AMD graphics cards or inboard GPUs do not encode or decode video files as well or as fast. Movie Studio 2023 is designed to use two graphics cards of the correct generation alongside each other to reduce the strain on the CPU and export faster. At 4k 2hour video with the first set of specs I have laid out above should take around 3 to 4hrs to compile whereas an HD video could be done in under 2 hours, possibly much sooner with the same equipment. If you were lucky enough to have no budget, the best systems could probably do that such a project in 4k in minutes. But the whole system is important. SSDs instead of SATA drives. Ideally more than one drive as having the video files on the C: drive also slows things down quite a bit. The build would not be cheap to either build or power but would be a lot quicker than your current setup.

It's not that I'm against AMD, My very first 'proper' computer was AMD but for video usage they were always sadly more than a few steps behind Intel and nvidia combinations, and still are.

Note I said video and not graphics as in gaming where AMD fair a lot better.

[Edit] You could as a stopgap just stick an nvidia graphics card in your current computer and things will improve but by how much I would not like to speculate. Possibly drop the export time by two thirds? Probably no more. Pick a good one though like an nvidia 3070 or nvidia 2060 and you could then put that into your next computer.

Addendum. 20GB of memory is a very odd number. It smacks of non uniform sized memory sticks. If you have three memory sticks in your system you have already slowed it down. Take one out but make sure it is the correct one. You need two identical sticks, one for each memory channel. You would be better off running 16GB of ram in just two memory slots than 20 GBs in three slots. One in channel one and one in channel two. Each slot should be a different colour.

Ray.

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Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

browj2 wrote on 11/14/2022, 2:33 PM

@tiisetso-masisi

Hi,

It would be helpful to know more about your project, in particular:

  • Project settings - resolution and speed (fps)
  • Export parameters
  • Raw material - full HD (1920x1080) or 4K
  • Types of effects used - some are very computing intensive

Screen shots would help.

Here is something that you can do and that I have done when I use some heavy effects, like using Neat Video.

Export in sections of about 30 minutes using the range bar as in this post but export to the Magix format mxv. Make sure that the range ends are at complete cut points on all tracks.

When you export, note which parts take the longest. If there are any that take a very long time compared to others, note them. You may want to review those parts to try to find what is slowing down the process.

Open a new project or another Movie in the existing project and import all of the pieces, one after the other. Now try exporting. It should go very fast.

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johnebaker wrote on 11/14/2022, 4:17 PM

@tiisetso-masisi

Hi

The statement from @CubeAce :-

. . . . no hardware acceleration capabilities. No internal CPU GPU or separate graphics card. . . . .

Is technically only partially correct - the Ryzen 5-3600 CPU does not have an integrated GPU in it, however you must have a separate graphics card installed in the system otherwise you would not be able to see anything on the monitor.

It is this graphics card that we need the Make/Model to determine if it is capable of Hardware Acceleration

. . . . does this mean that I have to build another PC or buy a separate graphics card . . . .

Not necessarily, at worst you may have to change the graphics card, the Ryzen CPU was released in June 2019 and having 6 cores (12 threads) is more than adequate for most video editing.

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