Some advice please for a non tech type: How do I save a project in Mp4 file format
Saving to MP4
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AAProds
wrote on 7/16/2020, 9:13 AM
@johnebaker Gday John,
You must be referring to a SD - 720 x 576 or 720 x 480 px video file.
For sending to another person to edit/incorporate/re-encode into another video SD is, IMHO, not good enough for incorporation into another video - a higher resolution eg 1920 x 1080 is more preferable to maintain quality when the video is to be edited/re-encoded in other software.
Fair enough, but a bitrate of even 6k would be ample at either resolution, given it'll most probably be viewed on the church monitors and YT.
I've just done a VHS capture video at 3k 720x576 and it looks great on my 55" TV, better than on the 'puter, so good is the upscaling of these new TVs. You can tell the difference viewing a 1920x1080 file (at a much-higher bitrate of course), but for @Dosco 's purposes, 6k would be more than ample, from what he has written. Certainly, anything over 500mb (for a 5min video) would be overdoing it, in my view.
@CubeAce Ray, 4k. That explains it! Might need to upgrade my i5-720??
@Dosco As you can see the bitrate will determine how big your MP4 file will be. I suggest you contact the production company and ask them what resolution and file size they want your video to be. Then we can advise on the MEP export parameters.
Re your cropping:
I was having some cropping issues at the top of each 'Landscape' photo, overcame it by re-sizing in 'Photoshop'
This is very easy to do in MEP: simply click on the image you need to crop, then in the Effects Tab, click on "Section" (half way down the list in mauve colour) then drag a corner of the selection area (orange corners, white-dashed edging) to encompass the area of your image you want. You can even move the area around the image to choose just the bit you want; click in the middle of the area and left-drag the whole area. To preview the "section" or cropped area of the image, click the Preview button at the top right of the Effects dialogue box. To do another image, make sure you click on the new image first!
CubeAce
wrote on 7/16/2020, 12:07 PM
Hi.
I find that an interesting observation as I watch most of my TV viewing on my computer screen as it is better than watching it on my TVs. Largest TV screen we have though is 48" and not as new as my monitors. Nor am I sitting as near to my TV compared to sitting at my monitors.
If I use a memory stick to plug into the TV to watch a video I've produced, the colour space and tonal range also seems less wide. Darks not as black, whites not as bright. Then again the viewing experience is different in the rooms concerned and I can colour grade my monitors.
I suspect your TV being 55" is newer than any of my screens. Is it LED or OLED?
The reason for me upgrading my pc was my old one couldn't cope with my newer camera's output. My son took my old motherboard and put an i7 into it and that seems to be doing OK now at his house, and he has the same make and model camera I have.
Ray.
johnebaker
wrote on 7/16/2020, 12:34 PM
Hi Alwyn
I agree to disagree on the bitrate/resolution setting, however
. . . . .I suggest you contact the production company and ask them what resolution and file size they want your video to be. . . . .
I agree totally with you on this one. 👍
. . . . VHS capture video at 3k 720x576 and it looks great on my 55" TV, better than on the 'puter, so good is the upscaling of these new TVs . . . .
Is that from disc or memory stick/ext hard drive?
What make model do you have - I have been looking at new TV's for a while and so far it is looking like the Sony AG9 4K 55" OLED.
John EB
johnebaker
wrote on 7/16/2020, 12:43 PM
Hi Ray
. . . . I don't use HEVC for export either normally . . . .
I don't use HEVC either it is IMHO poor with pan shots unless the source framerate is at least 50 fps and is exported at 50 fps.
John EB
Scenestealer
wrote on 7/16/2020, 6:37 PM
Hi John
I don't use HEVC either it is IMHO poor with pan shots unless the source framerate is at least 50 fps and is exported at 50 fps.
Can you explain where you see this "poorness" and is this on your TV or your computer or both?
Peter
AAProds
wrote on 7/16/2020, 8:53 PM
What make model do you have - I have been looking at new TV's for a while and so far it is looking like the Sony AG9 4K 55" OLED.
I have an LG 55SK8500 LED (interestingly described in the manual as "LG LED TV applies LCD screen with LED backlights."). It has of course been superceded by OLED.
Dosco
wrote on 7/20/2020, 9:04 AM
I have finished the editing of my project and before I export it I have noted the following in the project file and would like some advice as to the best way forward.
There are a number of photographs that I did use then after making some changes I removed (deleted) them from the video, they are still in the project folder. So can I simply go through the project and delete them?
Also when I was making all the changes I decided to 'save' the outcome (I did this twice!) under a different file name so I now have two unused or what might be called 'original' productions in the same project folder. So can I simply delete them also?
When I did my 8mm converted movie film videos I rendered them do I need to do the same with this project before exporting it?
Or - Given the Project is now quite large could I transfer my now finished work to a newly created project folder so I do not have all that detritus that is no longer required?
CubeAce
wrote on 7/20/2020, 2:41 PM
If the files are stored in another location or just not needed they can be deleted but they will be sent to the recycle bin.
Yes I frequently delete unused versions of project files. Just don't delete the one you need.
Not sure what you mean by your third question.
Transferring a project to a new location using the project Backup method within MEP should transfer any files the original folder has in it at the time of the backup.
Ray.
Scenestealer
wrote on 7/20/2020, 6:26 PM
If by your third question you mean that you saved your project XXX.MVP, using Save As with an appended name XXXNew.MVP you can delete either one without affecting the other providing you had not deleted photo object files mentioned in your question 2 that were in one project and not the other. If this happened, providing you had a copy of the original clip somewhere on your computer (other than in the project folder) then MEP on opening the .MVP would ask you to relink to the copy of the missing clip wherever it is residing on your hard drive.
Peter
Dosco
wrote on 7/22/2020, 3:35 AM
Excellent, thank you both your response is much appreciated.
Dosco
wrote on 7/23/2020, 8:46 AM
I have just completed the export of my video after which it played through and looked just fine.
I need to find out where it was 'parked' so I can send it off, where should I start my search as currently I must be looking in the wrong places!
The producer asked me use the following: - MP4 Full HD 1920x1080 25fps
Dosco
wrote on 7/23/2020, 9:25 AM
I did mean that, and the screen shot shows where it is supposed to be however I am unable to see and reference to MP4
Dosco
wrote on 7/23/2020, 9:33 AM
Just by accident I have found it, well I think I have found it - oh boy what an idiot.
johnebaker
wrote on 7/23/2020, 11:07 AM
Hi
. . . . the screen shot shows where it is supposed to be however I am unable to see and reference to MP4 . . . .
It is the first object on the third row in Windows Explorer image in the same comment.
Personally I avoid saving the video into the root of the project folder - I have a sub folder 'Export video' that they are put into.
HTH
John EB
Dosco
wrote on 7/27/2020, 8:51 AM
I would normally do that but on this occasion I 'lost my way' again! failing to check the place where I could have made an informed decision, hey ho one learns by ones mistakes.
However all is well and the finished video sent on its way - at last.
Many thanks to one and all for helping me with this project.