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johnebaker wrote on 11/13/2017, 3:38 AM

Hi Kami

. . . . in which I saw a very good special to upgrade to Video Pro X. I have 2 questions: . . . .

There is a third question - does the upgrade to VPX give me a feature, or features, that I need?

. . . . Can one work on one video while another is being exported? . . . .

In theory you can by opening 2 instances of the program, for example MEP or VPX, however this is not recommended as there may be conflict between the 2 projects and your PC will run slower, especially when rendering in one instance.

HTH

John EB

 

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

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Kami_1 wrote on 11/13/2017, 2:53 PM

That's why I wanted to know if Video Pro X might be able to do this. I wouldn't take that chance with MEP.

johnebaker wrote on 11/14/2017, 2:18 AM

Hi Kami

I have modified my reply to include VPX - the answer is the - not recommended.

HTH

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Kami_1 wrote on 11/14/2017, 8:36 AM

Thanks John.

Kami_1 wrote on 11/14/2017, 2:53 PM

I just remembered, I asked about Video Pro X because it has the newest Mercalli 4. I could use that.

summer_220 wrote on 11/14/2017, 3:05 PM

Hi,

...How much is the annual upgrade?...

It costs about £300 to buy or upgrade annually.

RogerGunkel wrote on 11/14/2017, 4:29 PM

Hi,

...How much is the annual upgrade?...

It costs about £300 to buy or upgrade annually.

Are you sure? It cost me £150 to upgrade from VPX7 a few weeks ago, I can't imagine it will cost £300 annually to continue upgrading 😲

Roger

RogerGunkel wrote on 11/14/2017, 4:34 PM

Just to add that £300 is the full purchase price, but if you are already an existing Magix user it will cost a lot less. I noticed Summer that this is your first post so welcome to the forum 🙂

Are you a first time Magix user?

Roger

Kami_1 wrote on 11/14/2017, 6:36 PM

I've been using MEP for over 10 years. The popup I got in MEP was a special offer for under $100, and it said the annual updates would be at a discount. It's that update discount I was asking about.

RogerGunkel wrote on 11/16/2017, 6:03 AM

I've been using MEP for over 10 years. The popup I got in MEP was a special offer for under $100, and it said the annual updates would be at a discount. It's that update discount I was asking about.

Hi Kami,

Not sure if your post referred to my previous one, which was actually in reply to Summer_220.

If your post was referring to your previous questions about exporting while working on another project, that was already answered by JB immediately after your first post.

Roger

browj2 wrote on 11/16/2017, 8:25 AM

Hi Kami,

You can assume that the annual renewal will be half of the cost of a new version. In my case, it was 250$ CA, half of the current published price of 500$ CA. The plug-in for Hitfilm and New Blue Essentials 3 and 4 came with the renewal.

I have a list of approx. differences between MEP and VPX if you want to know what they are. I tried posting it but the formatting requires fixing so I will make a pdf if you want to know what the differences are.

John CB

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Kami_1 wrote on 11/16/2017, 2:11 PM

Hi Kami,

You can assume that the annual renewal will be half of the cost of a new version. In my case, it was 250$ CA, half of the current published price of 500$ CA. The plug-in for Hitfilm and New Blue Essentials 3 and 4 came with the renewal.

I have a list of approx. differences between MEP and VPX if you want to know what they are. I tried posting it but the formatting requires fixing so I will make a pdf if you want to know what the differences are.

John CB


Thanks, John. This is just what I wanted to know. If it's not a problem, I'd like to see the comparison, although it's the Mercalli 4 that might make it worthwhile for me. Thanks much.

Kami_1 wrote on 11/16/2017, 2:14 PM

Hi Kami,

Not sure if your post referred to my previous one, which was actually in reply to Summer_220.

If your post was referring to your previous questions about exporting while working on another project, that was already answered by JB immediately after your first post.

Roger

I was also asking about the upgrade price, so I thought your reply might be for me, too.

RogerGunkel wrote on 11/16/2017, 6:47 PM

 

I was also asking about the upgrade price, so I thought your reply might be for me, too.

Aah! That makes sense, but I have only been on VPX for a few weeks, so don't yet know what future annual update renewals will cost. As has been suggested though it will probably about 50% of the full new buy price.

Regarding Mercalli 4, I have it on both VPX7 and VPX and my wife and I agree that it seems a lot smoother in VPX

Roger

Kami_1 wrote on 11/16/2017, 7:00 PM
Regarding Mercalli 4, I have it on both VPX7 and VPX and my wife and I agree that it seems a lot smoother in VPX

Roger

Are those different versions or different otherwise? (There's a big gap between base and 7.)

RogerGunkel wrote on 11/17/2017, 4:14 AM
 

Are those different versions or different otherwise? (There's a big gap between base and 7.)

As far as I can see its the same version but just runs better in VPX

Roger

emmrecs wrote on 11/17/2017, 4:22 AM

@Kami_1

Are those different versions or different otherwise? (There's a big gap between base and 7.)

I think you may be misunderstanding current Magix' naming policy!

All the versions of VPX from the original (X1) to X7 were numbered consecutively as they were released (as upgrades). With the coming of the "new" policy on upgrades/updates (VPX8 was the first to be, theoretically, following the path of continuous updates without releasing any "new" version - it was "officially" called simply VPX) the current version and, presumably, all future versions, are simply following suit. Only a check in the programme under Help>About can now show which version is actually installed!

HTH

Jeff

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Kami_1 wrote on 11/17/2017, 12:45 PM

Gotcha Jeff, thanks!

browj2 wrote on 11/18/2017, 9:34 AM

 

Thanks, John. This is just what I wanted to know. If it's not a problem, I'd like to see the comparison, although it's the Mercalli 4 that might make it worthwhile for me. Thanks much.

@Kami_1

Here is a listing of most of the features of VPX that I can think of that are over and above MEP Plus/Premium:

  1. Two monitors - source and preview
  2. Source monitors has other purposes - comparison images, measuring instruments
  3. Measuring instruments: VectorScope, Waveform monitor, RGB parade, Histogram
  4. Project folder
  5. Additional buttons on tracks, main ones to mute video and audio separately (MEP mutes both)
  6. Audio - moving audio object to less than a frame
  7. Effects - under Brightness/Contrast - Colour curves - RGB for brightness/contrast and individual color curves Red, Green Blue
  8. Insert LUT - now under Object Properties, Video tab
  9. Effects - under Color correction - 3 colour wheels - the "Highs", "Mids" and "Shadows" ranges can be adjusted individually
  10. Multi-cam - 9 tracks
  11. Multi-language capability - meaning when you burn a DVD you can select the language of the sound track if you created different language audio tracks
  12. DVD creation - import and export PSD format giving you wide latitude for changing the screens, buttons, etc. for DVD burning
  13. Export to EDL for exchange with programs like Samplitude
  14. Movie objects (nested sequences) Movies can be used in other movies as individual objects. These objects keep the action close at hand and can be used as many times as needed within the project.
  15. EDL transfer to DAWs - Audio files can be directly transferred to DAWs such as MAGIX Samplitude using EDL transfer, and you can individually bounce all audio tracks to hard disk.
  16. Loudness normalization according to EBU R128 Complete broadcast capability: Video Pro X offers loudness normalization for professional audio products in accordance with the new international EBU R128 guidelines.
  17. Supports all standard video formats, including AVCHD (Progressive), NXCAM, ProRes, XAVC S, XDCAM or HEVC/H.265 and also professional formats such as AVC-Intra and DVCPRO. The open Timeline in this video editing program allows for easy import and editing of different formats without the need to convert them beforehand.
  18. Native ProRes support Video Pro X now fully supports ProRes video codecs for Apple. Directly integrate ProRes files into your Windows system.
  19. Precise color grading with 16-bit deep color
  20. 10-bit/12-bit support for professional formats
  21. Multiple layouts of the windows accessible by using F9 (default layout), and custom layouts F10, F11, F12. I have various layouts and quickly change from one to the other this way. It seems that this has migrated to MEP2018.
  22. Direct access to Xara 3DMaker (I was never able to get this to open in MEP, works great in VPX).

I may have missed a few, especially with the most recent patch containing some new features. You can dig into some of the details of VPX on the Magix.com site.

John CB

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

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RogerGunkel wrote on 11/18/2017, 11:31 AM

One I would add to John's pretty comprehensive list is Colour Matching.

If you are using different cameras to shoot similar scenes, you can select the one that gives you the colour that you want, then get the programme to match the clips from the other camera to it. Very useful if you shoot multi camera.

Roger

browj2 wrote on 11/18/2017, 11:48 AM

@RogerGunkel

Hi,

Magix added Shot Match into MEP2018 Plus/Premium. However, I prefer this in VPX as there are two monitors, so you can see both clips at the same time.

John CB

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

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Kami_1 wrote on 11/18/2017, 2:12 PM

Thanks John! These are the features which I'd find very useful, in addition to Mercalli 4:

Effects - under Brightness/Contrast - Colour curves - RGB for brightness/contrast and individual color curves Red, Green Blue

Effects - under Color correction - 3 colour wheels - the "Highs", "Mids" and "Shadows" ranges can be adjusted individually

 

I'm curious about this one, not sure what you mean by "mute" video:

"Additional buttons on tracks, main ones to mute video and audio separately (MEP mutes both)"

In MEP, I can black out the video separately from the audio, and vice versa.

 

I'm also wondering if VPX is more stable that MEP. I still have the occasional freeze/hang with MEP.

Kami

 

Kami_1 wrote on 11/18/2017, 2:16 PM

@RogerGunkel

Hi,

Magix added Shot Match into MEP2018 Plus/Premium. However, I prefer this in VPX as there are two monitors, so you can see both clips at the same time.

John CB


I checked that out that feature, like when the lighting and color quickly change while recording, but couldn't figure out how to use it correctly.

Kami

browj2 wrote on 11/18/2017, 3:51 PM

I'm curious about this one, not sure what you mean by "mute" video:

"Additional buttons on tracks, main ones to mute video and audio separately (MEP mutes both)"

In MEP, I can black out the video separately from the audio, and vice versa.

@Kami_1

The mute is for the track, not an object. If you do not have video and audio on separate tracks, in MEP amongst the buttons at the left of a track, there is only one M button and if you click on it, it turns off both video and audio, meaning that it turns off whatever is on that track. In VPX, there are separate buttons to mute audio and video. Again, this is for objects on a track that contain both video and audio. If they on separate tracks, then the M in MEP mutes whatever is on that track.

If you have a track that has both audio and, say a title, in MEP, clicking on M for the track will turn off both the audio and the title. In VPX, clicking on the mute audio only turns off the audio, the title will still be visible. Of course, it is not a good idea to mix audio on a track with other types of visual objects, but sometimes it happens and I don't notice it.

John CB

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

YouTube Channel: @JCBrownVideos