perform stabilization on speed-ed up video

pauldek wrote on 9/20/2012, 1:42 AM

When editing video from GoPro 2 do I perform the stabilization before I speed up the video or after ?
Settings used:
Step 1: 20
Step 2: not pre-stabilized
Step 3: 20/800
Step 4: I drag a new white box to cover the full view area/preview
Are the above settings sufficient/optimal ? (settings obtained from forum reviews) the video is recorded on a motorbike (very shaky) and speeded up by 4 (1080-30)

MEP MX Plus (18)

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cpc000cpc wrote on 9/20/2012, 6:12 AM

pauldek,

Somewhat (tech) guessing but I'm pretty sure the idea is sound:

Stabilization process is based on analysis of the position, and frame by frame movement, of 'recognizable' areas in a film. 'Recognized' meaning by the computer based on color and shape and particularly to brightly contrasting edges / outlines. I'd assume that the best stabilization would occur when the frame to frame movements are small and therefor more easily calculated. A sped up film would make the frame to frame differences larger -- stabilize first.

Regards,

Carl

Added Re: ...'learn something every day  :)'

MEP is a great one for an extended and rewarding learning curve -- once you get over the sometimes steep start! :-)

pauldek wrote on 9/20/2012, 6:40 AM

You right, thats logic  Thanks 

new to MEP & GoPro, learning something every day  :)

gandjcarr wrote on 9/20/2012, 12:36 PM

Hi,

You may want to look at this series of posts and especially the comment by Scenestealer.  http://www.magix.info/us/is-anyone-getting-decent-results-from-the-stabilizer-in.knowledge.762018.html

The MEP stabilizer is pretty basic and works well on some stabilization requirements.  The settings you are using is just a starting point.  Video stabilization is a complex process that requires a lot of fine tuning, and sometimes an external stabilizer is needed to get you the results you want.  You can actually get better results by breaking up your video and providing different stabilizer setting to different segments depending on the type of motion you are trying to correct.  But you have to understand that the MEP stabilizer works pretty well on 2 axis while some of the other products on the market work on 5.  Mercalli has a stabilizer plug in for MEP, and many users swear by it.  I personally find it complex and not very user friendly.  I prefer the NewBlue FX stabilizer (which does not have a MEP plug in yet) so I actually have purchased a Video editing program that is supported by NewBlue FX which I only use for stabilizing video.  To me MEP is pretty much the best video editor available to the consumer market so except for stabilizing video, I use it exclusively.  You could also try using the free "virtualdub" stabilizer but it is probably less user friendly than the Mercalli product even though it does work very well.

Good luck

johnebaker wrote on 9/20/2012, 12:54 PM

Hi

A little off topic however - how are you mounting the camera on the bike?

The location of the camera/mount on the bike has a great influence on vibration.

Also have a look at what others do here.  i think the red bike camera mount is very OTT.

John

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gandjcarr wrote on 9/20/2012, 1:22 PM

@johnebaker, once again, I hate you.  LOL here I am having a converstion about how to fix a problem in post production and suddenly you jump in with how to avoid the problem all together.  Actually John, you are 100% on the money.  Don't create the problem in the first place and then you don't have to worry about it in post.  Again very good comment and very well done.

pauldek wrote on 9/27/2012, 12:24 AM

@johnebaker, well being new to the GoPro I sure have learnt that the best footage results from a steady camera. Lesson learnt from my mount: I placed an adhesive clip sideways (due to the curve) on the fairing just below the front light (scooter in Thailand) then I had to add a 90ᵒ short link to get the camera horizontal again (I believe this is where extra vibration was created) it also didn’t help with the road conditions and the pure wear and tear of the bike I was riding. In future I will find a spot on the frame to mounting.
@qandjcarr, thanks for the great info. The 5 axis sounds like the way to go
Cheers