Pan - Zoom - Movement (Lengthening The Object)

CarpentersMate wrote on 2/28/2023, 3:46 AM

Hi Gang

Not sure I'm using the appropriate method to create Pan and Zoom? Trying to use/apply the options whilst right click on an inserted STILL on the timeline: You will then find 'Movement' then Panning and Zooming. They function fine, however in order to slow or lengthen the Zoom or Pan motion, I find I have to increase the linear/length of the inserted still. This is naturally problematic because at some point one needs to 'Cut' that still. In doing so, the time/length of motion reverts back to the original shorter time/length of motion. I can also create a Zoom in the View/Animation section but not a Pan motion. I'm missing something ...

Thank You

Mike

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AAProds wrote on 2/28/2023, 4:09 AM

@CarpentersMate

Mike, don't use the right-click action. Camera/Zoomshot is what you want but activate it through the Effects tab. And don't "select" any of the options (such as Direction of Movement, Zoom or Duration).

First off, set the length of your image, then apply the effect.

When you click on the CZS effect button, the crop box appears around your video. Move the Play marker along to the point you want to start your zoom, then click to create a keyframe. Then it's just a case of moving the play marker along again and dragging the crop box to fit around the subject. Click Preview to see the effect in action (drag your Play marker back and forth). In later versions, the Preview will automatically occur when you hit Play but I can't recall if that occurs in 2016.

You can adjust the timing of your zooming/panning by dragging the keyframes. You can also adjust the size and position of the crop box at a keyframe; click the keyframe so it turns blue then adjust the cropbox.

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johnebaker wrote on 2/28/2023, 4:14 AM

@CarpentersMate, @AAProds

Hi

. . . . the Preview will automatically occur when you hit Play but I can't recall if that occurs in 2016. . . .

It does.

John EB

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CarpentersMate wrote on 3/1/2023, 12:41 AM

Thanx John and Alwyn

*Just a note; I'm more acquainted using Adobe to create pans, zooms and other effects but had to import them back onto the FC timeline. (An older version of FC). So its nice to do it directly within the same App. And thanx for your patience ...

I went back and tested creations of zoom/movement using Camera/Zoomshot. I'm still missing something (probably basic)? While using CSZ, I find the result still seems dependent on the Linear Length of the still on the timeline. In the reduced clip (reduced linear still on the timeline), the speed of the clip is faster. Whilst the longer linear maintains a slower (longer play).

Slower-Play

Faster-Play

"You can adjust the timing of your zooming/panning by dragging the keyframes" ?? Still trying ...

 

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Former user wrote on 3/1/2023, 12:51 AM

@CarpentersMate Hi, If you expand the keyframe timeline at the bottom of the Effects window you can drag the keyframes so the zoom is over whatever period you want,

AAProds wrote on 3/1/2023, 1:58 AM

@CarpentersMate

Arr OK. You can set the zooming to proportionally change with the length of the image:

When you tick "combine..." you can then change the length of the image as you wish, and the keyframes will stay in the same relative positions. Things will just happen faster if you shorten the image (and VV).

 

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

johnebaker wrote on 3/1/2023, 4:51 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

See John CB's ( @browj2 ) tutorials - the last 4 in the first section of this list - on keyframing they have useful tips on KF settings/options

John EB

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Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.