New Blue Titler Pro 6 for Magix

CubeAce wrote on 11/30/2020, 6:48 AM

Is there a manual for its use anywhere?

I have finally got it working again on my system but not entirely within MEP but as a stand-alone only.

Within MEP it opens but I don't seem to be able to get it to apply to a video clip.

If I output a file as a mov. file, the resulting file can not be read even though it does export a file. The only export options are mov. or PNG. Can PNG be a video format? I haven't tried that yet.

I have no idea what settings within the program I should be setting and selecting help just takes me to the New Blue site.

I have searched there for a manual to no avail. The tutorial videos I found do not seem to go into the programs settings.

Any thoughts?

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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johnebaker wrote on 11/30/2020, 11:42 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Can PNG be a video format? . . . .

The PNG export is similar to an AVI encoded internally as JPEG. The container file is still MOV, however the internal coding is PNG images this being the easy way to export with Alpha transparency - here is the MediaInfo from such a file

General
Complete name                            : W:\MAGIX\DVD_BD_Projects\NB Titler\video\test titler 2.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                                : 43.6 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 0 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 45.7 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf57.71.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PNG
Format/Info                              : Portable Network Graphic
Codec ID                                 : png 
Duration                                 : 8 s 0 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 45.7 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.221
Stream size                              : 43.6 MiB (100%)
Language                                 : English

It will not import directly into MEP/VPX - I don't know if it will import with Quicktime installed as I do not use QT.

I ran mine through a converter to MP4.

HTH

John EB

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 11/30/2020, 12:38 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Thanks for the reply.

I've no idea why or how Titler Pro 6 started to work again or why it can be launched as a stand-alone plug-in. I would have thought it would only be available inside of MEP or VPX.

Thanks for the heads up on the file format. I played around some more and I can export a file from the Titler package but can't seem to get it to apply to a clip within MEP. Curiously although the file cannot be read by windows (possibly because I too do not have the QuickTime player on my system, just the basic stuff) and the files show no image within the editor import section, the files do play within MEP. (at least the mov. files do. I have yet to try exporting as PNG.)

The curious thing is the data from such a file as read by media Info.

General
Complete name                            : I:\Magix Videos\Playing with MEP 2020\Chatham Historic Dockyard Military Text.mov
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.02 (qt  )
File size                                : 61.1 MiB
Duration                                 : 2 s 2 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 256 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf57.71.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PNG
Format/Info                              : Portable Network Graphic
Codec ID                                 : png
Duration                                 : 2 s 2 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 256 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (59940/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 59.940 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 63.766 FPS
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.060
Stream size                              : 61.1 MiB (100%)
Language                                 : English


Again it lists the file format info as PNG.

You can see the Windows sections of the folders are not showing thumbnails but plays when reviewed or paced on the timeline. It's possible this just locks the application to being used with MEP but seems a clunky solution somehow. I'm sure before New Blue Titler Pro 6 broke on my system the first time I could get it to apply to a clip though. Could the absence of the QuickTime player have something to do with that I wonder. That seems doubtful to me but I do like some of the harder to recreate presets in this program now that I've finally been able to see them.

Ray.

 

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

CubeAce wrote on 12/1/2020, 10:03 AM

OK.

More work done. My copy will not work within MEP or VPX.

It does work as a stand-alone program and produces files that are giving a transparent background or alpha mask if you prefer in the mov. format that windows can't play. They are playable within MEP and VPX though so at least I can make titles if not timed to a given clip. I have found it to be an easy program to use and understand but each time I try to use it within it MEP tells me my graphics card is not supported and quits. I have noticed NBT6 is doing this in my 4K 50fps projects but in stand alone mode it only supports resolutions of up to 1080p so maybe that is where the problem lies

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Ho hum.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 12/1/2020, 1:30 PM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Does not work here either - different issue though - will not load the vsx, says it is missing or incompatible.

Additionally I have similar issues with:

  1. Hitfilm Movie Essentials, NB Elements 3 Overlays and NB ColorFast 2 won't work or stay installed - they are there but won't load
  2. Mercalli 5 Pro and RT will not unlock - click the Unlock button - no activation dialog not nothing.
  3. Cloud import link does not work either.

Annoying because all this is on a clean install of OS, MEP and VPX, and these issues started after another .NET update (KB4580419) I had delayed until getting everything installed and working.

AFAICS it was not the AV blocking it was turned off during the installs. I was using Windows Defender, however I have gone back to Avast today to try and fix the issues - I have a serious mistrust of Windows Defender.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 12/1/2020, 2:13 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I have used HME and NBE 3 on a few projects with no problems and they are both currently working. I don't have Mercalli 5 Pro. I'm not sure what RT is. I've never used cloud imports so don't know. I have both Avast and Windows defender running and as far as I know all Windows updates with the following exceptions.

Boris Particle Illusion still hangs on startup.

Looks like another Windows update is ready.

Ray.

 

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 12/2/2020, 6:26 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

The Mercalli v5 Suite issue is resolved - I downloaded the trial version of Mercalli for Magix installed that and it activated with no issues.

Now to work on the others and kill Defender permanently - even though I am using another AV it is still doing stuff in the background - it appears only some functions get disabled when another AV is present.

. . . .Looks like another Windows update is ready. . . .

KB4586876 ? If so installed last night - no issues with it.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.