@AAProds

Greetings Al, I'll do a real world figures check later (give me an hour or two for the tea to work) but for now the Neat Benchmark figure:

Benchmark settings as Rays

Best combination: CPU (9 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060): 34.1 frames/sec

AndyW

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@AAProds

OK Al, using a 720x576 5minute VHS rip encoded to 768x576 using Default SD settings with Audio Equaliser and Compressor, a bit of Gamma + 25 Sharpen and Neat Video Auto Profile + some Temporal and Local Flicker adjustment + Dust & Scratches + Spatial Sharpening High on @ 100%

Encoding time 2 minutes 51 seconds

Hope this helps.

AndyW

EDIT - just realised the above was tested with a VRO copy of the original VHS tape (my father copied it for his anthology), so I've repeated it with a later Lagarith copy of the same tape that I'm wotking on at the moment using the same settings as above.

The Neat Video Auto Performance Settings calculated 112 fps so I class that as the same.

The encoding time was 1 minute 46 seconds; about 1 minute quicker!

I'm sure the speeds would be even quicker if I had the Nvidia 3060 or higher that utilises that BUS setting that I can't remember the name of at the moment.

@me_again

Hi Alwyn

Using NeatBench I get

Best combination: GPU only (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060): 29.1 frames/sec.

However in the real world I have it set to use both CPU and GPU (RTX 2060) - it runs a little (!) quicker.

Real world exports can vary dramatically according to resolution and noise levels - down to as low as 4 fps for 4K UHD which is really noisy - ie night shots.

HTH

John EB

@me_again

Did you mean Resizable BAR

@Marc-Goder

Aah yes, that's what I meant. I was close. I knew somebody would know what I was rambling about..

Thanks.

AndyW

Thanks very much all, and to Ray for the Neatbench tip. I ran it on my old plodder and got 4 cores... 3.13fps.

It looks like I will be in for a pleasant surprise, encoding speed-wise.

@Marc-Goder

Would you be able to run Neatbench for me, Marc? It doesn't install anything.

@AAProds

Yes, I'll do it this afternoon after work.

@AAProds

This is the result of the benchmark.
However, I can't set anything there.
A DOS Window opens (CMD) and the benchmark starts.

Neat Bench (Neat Image 9.1.0, Neat Video 5.5.8) Windows x64
Copyright (c) 1999-2023 Neat Image team, Neat Video team, ABSoft.
All Rights Reserved.
CUDA driver version: 12010
NVIDIA CUDA initialized successfully.
Checking CUDA GPU 1:
GPU device name is: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
6143 MB total (5135 MB available during initialization)

Check passed - will attempt to use the device
Checking OpenCL platform 1 (NVIDIA Corporation):
The platform is not supported.
OpenCL initialized successfully.

Neat Video benchmark:
Frame Size:    1920x1080 progressive
Bitdepth:    32 bits per channel
Mix with Original:    Disabled
Temporal Filter:    Enabled
    Quality Mode:    Normal
    Radius:    2 frames
    Dust and Scratches:    Disabled
    Repeat Rate:    0% of repeated frames
    Jitter Filtration:    Normal
Spatial Filter:    Enabled
    Quality Mode:    Normal
    Frequencies:    High, Mid, Low, Very Low
    Artifact Removal:    Enabled
    Edge Smoothing:    Disabled
    Sharpening:    Disabled

Detecting the best combination of performance settings:
running the test data set on up to 16 CPU cores and on up to 1 GPU
CPU Model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10870H CPU @ 2.20GHz
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU (CUDA): 6143 MB total (5135 MB currently available), using up to 100%

CPU only (1 core): 3.54 frames/sec
CPU only (2 cores): 7.03 frames/sec
CPU only (3 cores): 9.61 frames/sec
CPU only (4 cores): 11.8 frames/sec
CPU only (5 cores): 13.8 frames/sec
CPU only (6 cores): 14.6 frames/sec
CPU only (7 cores): 14.5 frames/sec
CPU only (8 cores): 13.1 frames/sec
CPU only (9 cores): 12 frames/sec
CPU only (10 cores): 10.8 frames/sec
CPU only (11 cores): 10.1 frames/sec
CPU only (12 cores): 9.21 frames/sec
CPU only (13 cores): 8.47 frames/sec
CPU only (14 cores): 7.89 frames/sec
CPU only (15 cores): 7.28 frames/sec
CPU only (16 cores): 7.26 frames/sec
GPU only (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 31.4 frames/sec
CPU (2 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 18.7 frames/sec
CPU (3 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 22 frames/sec
CPU (4 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 25.2 frames/sec
CPU (5 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 23.3 frames/sec
CPU (6 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 25.3 frames/sec
CPU (7 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 26.3 frames/sec
CPU (8 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 24.9 frames/sec
CPU (9 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 23.3 frames/sec
CPU (10 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 23.2 frames/sec
CPU (11 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 22.4 frames/sec
CPU (12 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 21.6 frames/sec
CPU (13 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 21.4 frames/sec
CPU (14 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 19.9 frames/sec
CPU (15 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 19.5 frames/sec
CPU (16 cores) and GPU (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 19.3 frames/sec

Best combination: GPU only (NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU): 31.4 frames/sec

I believe Resizable BAR has no effect on Neat Video since it uses OpenCL.

The pure CPU power and number of Cuda cores bring the speed here.

That can be concluded from the results of @me_again and @johnebaker and @CubeAce and myself.

Now we're still missing a result from @Former user with its completely different hardware.

@Marc-Goder @AAProds @me_again @Former user

Hi Marc.

While I agree with your conclusions on your observations on Neat Video's requirements, it would be running in conjunction with the program it is used within which would need it's own set of requirements on top of Neat Video's, where additional requirements from components may vary and could hinder or help the combined processes dependant on the capability of the system as a whole.

Note what was disabled in the test.

Neat Video benchmark:
Frame Size:    1920x1080 progressive
Bitdepth:    32 bits per channel
Mix with Original:    Disabled
Temporal Filter:    Enabled
    Quality Mode:    Normal
    Radius:    2 frames
    Dust and Scratches:    Disabled
    Repeat Rate:    0% of repeated frames
    Jitter Filtration:    Normal
Spatial Filter:    Enabled
    Quality Mode:    Normal
    Frequencies:    High, Mid, Low, Very Low
    Artifact Removal:    Enabled
    Edge Smoothing:    Disabled
    Sharpening:    Disabled

It is therefore perhaps a bit premature to read too much into what effects performance within Neat Video based on the test alone.

Ray.

@AAProds

Morning (or evening) Al,

I ran it on my old plodder and got 4 cores... 3.13fps

Just out of curiosity, has your NeatBench figure improved with nre F1 system? 😀😂😇

AndyW

@me_again

Ha. It runs so fast it closes immediately I click to run it! It did work in the beginning but not now. Not even enough time to think about a cup of tea! This could be a bad omen because MEP 2021 is crashing immediately I touch anything in the media pool.

In the MMS 2023 plugin test, I get this:

Got it working. Had to update to Windows 11, but hey, you gotta do what you've gotta do.

Neatbench result: 14 cores, 36.9fps.

MEP 2021 isn't crashing either.

Win 11? Yuk.