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CubeAce wrote on 12/16/2022, 11:24 AM

@Kam-Srikameswaran

Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.

The AMD FX9590 is an older processor needing to use DDR3 memory with no internal GPU.

What is the speed and type of your C: drive and what cache memory does it have? How much free space is on that drive?

Are your project files placed on your desktop or on another drive?

If on another drive is it external or internal? What speed is it and what inboard cache does it have? If external is it a USB3 drive and connected to a USB 3 port?

What resolution and frame rates are your MP4 files?

Are you running the latest nvidia game drivers for you 1060 nvidia card. Currently that would be vs. 527.56.

Is your copy of Windows 10 the latest version. 22H2 19045.2364?

Ray.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Kam-Srikameswaran wrote on 12/17/2022, 10:38 AM

Hard drive speed 4.20Ghz, L1 384 KB, L2 8.0 L38.0. SSD. Free space 70 GB; RAM 16GBfiles on an internal second disc drive with 650 GB unused; MP4 1920 x 720 resolution 29.xxx fps Windows 10 Home 64 bit version 22H2 19045 2364. Device driver reports that my videocard is updated fully Version 27.21.14.5751

CubeAce wrote on 12/17/2022, 11:56 AM

@Kam-Srikameswaran

Hi. First Hard drive speed? 4.20Ghz, L1 384 KB, L2 8.0 L38.0.

That looks more like your CPU specs, not a drives specs and is the same as the specs on the AMD website. However Free space 70 GB seems fine if it's an SSD.

RAM 16GB Seems ok depending on what effects you are adding. It's easy to run out of ram in some instances.

files on an internal second disc drive with 650 GB unused; What drive type, make, and series? for example, Western Digital RED. SATA 4TB. The second drive needs to have a large inboard cache to prevent stuttering or freezing as files are read. Also made sure it is de-fragmented if it is a mechanical drive as fragmented project files can cause problems.

There seems nothing strenuous about using MP4 1920 x 720 resolution 29.xxx fps video files although depending on the encoding has produced problems in the past. Are the files from VHS tapes and interleaved?

Windows version is up to date.

While the driver for the nvidia card is up to date, Magix is now recommending the use of the game ready driver over the Studio driver. It may be worth trying the game ready driver.

You also said the program freezes after playing for a few minutes. So how long is the project and what effects are you using? How many tracks are there?

Can we have a screen grab of the timeline please?

Ray.

 

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Reyfox wrote on 12/17/2022, 12:53 PM

...also, video editing puts a lot of stress on your computer hardware, the that CPU runs really hot.

Also, do you have Task Manager open to see what is going on with CPU, GPU, disk access and RAM usage?

Kam-Srikameswaran wrote on 12/17/2022, 1:06 PM

My first try with this version. I had no problems with MS 15! I have insrted only four short clips on the time line.Here is a screen shot. Question is why do I have to go through all these, if the software specs are not only met and even exceeded?

Reyfox wrote on 12/17/2022, 1:55 PM

I've always thought the specs listed by manufacturers, especially minimum have never really been honest. And it's something that should be changed to reflect what would really give a user a good editing experience.. Technically, yes, your computer should handle editing as long as you don't go too far with "stuff".

You listed the resolution of the videos, what created them? 1920x720 isn't a "common" resolution.

MediaInfo will give more information on your video files. It's free. Run it, drag a video on top of it, look at View>Tree, and copy/paste.

Or... provide a file to the cloud so others can download and try it on their systems.

Kam-Srikameswaran wrote on 12/17/2022, 2:20 PM

Sorry imy typo. Its 1920 x 1080 a common format recorded on on my Panasonic camera Videosetting. Here is the mediainfo screenshot of one of the files.

CubeAce wrote on 12/17/2022, 2:36 PM

@Kam-Srikameswaran

I have to agree with @Reyfox about the specs.

After looking at the specs for your CPU it may be the processor is too old as it says at one point.

F16C / 16-bit Floating-Point conversion instructions

and if I remember correctly the program uses 32 bit floating point conversion in it's calculations.

The specs page for VPX14 which is the same generation program as Movie Studio 2023 is more specific stating it needs an AMD Ryzen processor minimum which is some generations newer than your current processor. The motherboard may also be inhibiting the full use of your nvidia graphics card. Of that I'm not overly sure but seems a reasonable assumption. I'll be honest and say it has been a long time since I owned an AMD processor and I am out of touch over their capabilities or shortfalls.

I'll disagree with Reyfox over the 1920 x 720 not being a common resolution as it is standard for VHS transfers to digital and digital broadcasting. Early 'HD' TVs were 1920 x 720 but you would normally see that resolution applied to MPEG-2 files rather than MP-4.

Unfortunately newer programs are written for newer hardware and operating system requirements and in video in particular specification requirements change faster than for other mediums.

You could try right clicking on the program icon and run as administrator and see if that helps.

Another thing to try is to open Task Manager and try to see what maxes out when the freeze occurs. It could be you just run out of motherboard ram which tends to creep up in use the longer the project is. I find using the performance tab to be the easiest to keep an eye on.

Ray.

 

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Reyfox wrote on 12/17/2022, 2:45 PM

@Kam-Srikameswaran thanks for the clarification and the resolution of the video clips. I still think your computer should be able to handle a "plain vanilla" HD clip. Check and make sure your Nvidia drivers are sort of current.

And if you can upload a sample to the cloud (Google Drive, etc.), that would be nice.

johnebaker wrote on 12/17/2022, 2:54 PM

@Kam-Srikameswaran

Hi

. . . . Device driver reports that my videocard is updated fully Version 27.21.14.5751 . . . . .

Driver version  27.21.14.5751 - Nvidia reference version number 457.51 - was released on 22 November 2020 and is 2 years out of date.

The current driver for the GT 1060 is, as previously commented by @CubeAce, 527.56 - the full Windows version number being 31.0.15.2756 and is available here.

John EB
Forum Moderator

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Kam-Srikameswaran wrote on 12/17/2022, 3:58 PM

OK, John. Thanks. I'm downoading it now! Let us see what happens!

Kam-Srikameswaran wrote on 12/17/2022, 4:48 PM

John, Rey and Cube! Thanks for your help. I downloaded the 31.0.15.2756 driver recommended by John and tried MX2023 again. So far, no freezes. Thank you Marc for your advice. Will keep you posted if I have any issues! Kudos to all of you!

CubeAce wrote on 12/17/2022, 5:12 PM

@Kam-Srikameswaran

Hi.

Just glad I was wrong about the processor and kicking myself for not recognising an older nvidia graphics driver.

Moral of the story should be is don't rely on any third party programs to inform you about driver releases but make a habit of going to the appropriate websites once a month and check for yourself. Graphics drivers are updated often.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Reyfox wrote on 12/17/2022, 5:40 PM

@Kam-Srikameswaran glad you are up and running! Now... back to editing for you!