MMM 2024, is it "locked" to 44.1kHz sample rate?

emmrecs wrote on 7/4/2023, 10:21 AM

Having used MM for several years and in numerous versions, this is the first time I have encountered this issue.

I installed the new Premium Edition only this morning. As a default, because much of my work is for video, my external MOTU audio interface is set to 48kHz sample rate. Once the new version was installed I quickly tested it by having the default Piano VSTi in track 1 and pressing middle C on the on-screen keyboard. Immediately my ears told me this was not sounding the "proper" middle C but was nearly a tone sharp (so sounding a rather flat D). (As a retired music teacher I am "blessed", or perhaps cursed, with Perfect Pitch, hence my reaction to this mis-pitched note.)

This was not an issue with the specific VSTi since all others that I tested gave the same result. I also checked this against my Nord keyboard, where middle C is 256Hz, the standard frequency setting.

So I changed the sample rate of my interface to 44.1kHz and, of course, middle C was now middle C, rather than the rather flat D. Reverting to 48kHz and the mis-pitching returned.

As I said, I have never encountered this before, having used 48kHz SR with earlier versions of MM without the problem being encountered.

Before I raise a Support Ticket on this I'm interested to know whether anyone else has encountered this and knows how to resolve it, other than by changing the sample rate of my audio interface every time before I open MM (I discovered that I cannot change the SR of the interface whilst MM is running because that results in audio silence!)

Any and all ideas very gratefully received!

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

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johnebaker wrote on 7/4/2023, 12:45 PM

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff

Is the default sound card in your PC, and the project settings set to 48 kHz samplerate ?

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

emmrecs wrote on 7/4/2023, 12:57 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John,

The default sound card in my PC, is turned off. Control Panel>Windows Sound settings shows 48kHz as my "standard setting". Default Project setting of audio sampling rate in MM seems to be 44.1kHz, but changing this to 48kHz seems to make no difference!

BUT, "saving" 48kHz as a new "Default Project", closing and then re-opening MM, the pitch is correct! Thank you for pointing me to the solution.

But I wonder why this has never been a problem in previous versions???

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

johnebaker wrote on 7/5/2023, 1:52 AM

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff

Sounds like the behaviour now matches that of MMS/VPX.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

emmrecs wrote on 7/5/2023, 3:08 AM

@johnebaker

Indeed it does!

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam