MEP System Requirements

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pmikep wrote on 3/23/2020, 2:06 PM

I ran puppies on my 2nd monitor, which is driven by the UHD. I would say that there is no change. A few seconds difference in what are 7 and a half minute encode times. (In my 4K test, the UHD is slightly faster than the Nvidia.)

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Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that, which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like losing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, <s>i3-8100</s> updated to i5-9400 w/ UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue M.2 for OS (PCIe 3), Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors. A WD Blue SSD for outputs. (SATA III.)

johnebaker wrote on 3/24/2020, 5:54 AM

@pmikep

Hi

. . . . I expected that someone would ask me that. 😉 I can try that. (Naturally I like running the Timeline window on the larger monitor.) . . . . .

Of course 😉 - I normally run my screens, they are identical, a different way

MEP main window on the UHD connected screen and Preview monitor on the NVidia connected screen.

For the testing I put every thing on the UHD to see how much, if any, MEP activity was registered on the NVidia.

As I normally work there is some residual activity of the NVidia, ~ 2%, however this is not from MEP.

John EB

 

 

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

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Scenestealer wrote on 3/26/2020, 6:08 AM

@CubeAce @johnebaker @pmikep

Hi

Sorry I have not been able to respond to your observations until now. Thanks to all for sharing the results of your extensive tests.

Ray - Re your comment about the overload setting:-

I think it may be the other way around.The box with the tick in it is not greyed out but may be locked in. Why else would I keep getting readings that it is in use?

If the program had disabled this then the GPU would still be in use for whatever, just as it is without the box checked, but it would be preventing any further work being farmed out from the CPU to further overload the weakish GPU.

After your comments about changing the various Program Settings I did some testing myself and while I did not feel there was much benefit in playback or Timeline handling smoothness from the different settings you tried I did discover something profound. With a 4K 25fps all movie clip project - checking the box in Program Settings>Video Audio>Other> Reduce resolution for improved performance - had the same effect as clicking the Blue Flash button below the preview monitor in that it halved the load on the CPU and GPU's but without reducing the sharpness of the picture in the monitor. Plus preview started without significant delay due to preloading indicated by the blue line below the timeline. I had always thought, mainly due to the description of this selection in the help files, that this only had an effect when there are very high resolution "Image" files i.e. Jpegs in the project, but it appears to work with UHD video and retains the sharpness in the monitor - cool!

I will attempt to comment on some of the other points tomorrow.

Keep safe and well in these crazy times. A good time for me to be pulling out the back catalogue of Scenestealer holiday Vid's!

Peter

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 2004, MEP2016, 2022 (V21.0.1.92) Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX12 (V18.0.1.85). Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 2004, MEP2015 Premium.

CubeAce wrote on 3/26/2020, 7:57 AM

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter.

In a short while I will be uploading some screen shots and explaining why I've just finished doing about 36 hours of testing various combinations of how to set MEP up with some interesting results.

As an aside, I've always had the section you mention ticked (as you will see later) so hadn't noticed.

There may be other settings I've yet to explore that may be variable from one person's set up to anothers' that we fail to mention that could impact on exports. You just mentioning what you have made me look at this as well.

The screenshot shows how I've always had that section configured but after reading the help section I'm wondering if that is right for me.

Just to add to the variations within MEP and confuse me more. 😉

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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CubeAce wrote on 3/26/2020, 8:20 AM

@Scenestealer

Out of curiosity I've just changed the setting in that box to 'HD' and got the question 'Do you want to alter the proxy files? to which I answered yes. Had to activate a new free codec online and then proceeded to change the proxy files.

Don't try it! At least not with my level of NVIDIA card (at present switched in) which seems to be doing all of the encoding and is taking longer than normal exporting times. I will then see if the export of the project is faster than before.

[ Edit] no improvement on export times but took ages to change the proxy files. Not in my opinion worth doing.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

LeCanadien wrote on 3/28/2020, 10:33 PM

Hey guys (and perhaps girls too...),

My simple initial question has sparked all these wonderful information from all of you!

I'm really thankful and grateful for all the wisdom each of you have shared here. I didn't expect to read such amazing information :)
Thank you all and please stay safe in these terrible times.

Thank you all again....

CubeAce wrote on 3/29/2020, 3:09 AM

@LeCanadien

Hi.

Because I seem to have so much spare time on my hands recently I decided to try things I've wanted to find out for myself for the benefit of my own system. I'm still testing but now at 4K. Expect a few more personal observations. 😉

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."