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PATIENT-X wrote on 7/3/2022, 8:57 AM

@hello-varekai

Hello, welcome

This article here may help you.

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hello-varekai wrote on 7/3/2022, 9:35 AM

Hello Patient-X
Thanks for suggestion and link, unfortunately that doesn't work.
Alos did this sometime ago but no cigar.
https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-remove-microsoft-edge-from-windows-10
The thing is I don't have Edge installed at all, 'cause I removed it completely.
I have no MicrosoftEdgeUpdate.exe on PC.
I blocked the try to update in firewall.
Question is do Sound Forge need Edge if so why?
 

PATIENT-X wrote on 7/3/2022, 9:52 AM

@hello-varekai

Hi

You could look to see if microsoftedgeupdate.exe is found in folder C:\Program Files\soundforge\**some subfolder**, and run your anti virus program in case it's a virus, or maybe Moderator @rraud will have a suggestion.

When you said you removed edge completely, I would try the free Revo uninstaller to ensure everything was removed including any remnants from the registry.

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hello-varekai wrote on 7/3/2022, 10:11 AM

Hello!
I have no microsoftedgeupdate.exe anywhere. I use AceUtlities and regularly clean registry.
I did edit registry as of this:
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-superfetch-prefetch-ssd
Will do a reboot and get back to you later, not today though it will be tomorrow.
Thanks...
Edit: Just now found this: MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe in the folder you mentioned!!
Good find! Will do some testing.
I'll let you know.

SP. wrote on 7/3/2022, 10:15 AM

I would guess that Magix uses the Edge functionality to show the advertisements in their programs.

PATIENT-X wrote on 7/3/2022, 10:49 AM

@hello-varekai

Hi

MicrosoftEdgeWebview2 is used to embed web page features in your applications, it also uses up unnecessary memory.

It's also part of Microsoft Office365 and Outlook, without it you won’t be able to use Microsoft 365 features (namely Outlook features) which require WebView to run properly.

See this article here on phishing.

You can block it with anti virus software or uninstall it using Revo or third party uninstaller.

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rraud wrote on 7/3/2022, 11:20 AM

I got that Edge update notification a few days ago.. whilst using SF.. I was mystified because I had never seen it before. I closed the window and it did not reoccur.
FWIW, I just looked for "microsoftedgeupdate".. there where many entries, but none were in any Sound Forge or Magix folders. However I also looked for "MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup".. that was present in the SFP-16 Program files folder,. (thanks @hello-varekai).
btw, a duplicate was in 'SF-16 Program files (x86) folder, since I also have the 32 bit version of SFP-16 installed.

@SP. stated "I would guess that Magix uses the Edge functionality to show the advertisements in their programs."

I would assume the same.

"Use Newsfeed to stay informed...." may have something to do with it as well. Disable that in 'Options> Preferences> General'.

hello-varekai wrote on 7/4/2022, 2:21 AM

"Magix uses the Edge functionality to show the advertisements in their programs" 
"MicrosoftEdgeWebview2 is used to embed web page features in your applications, it also uses up unnecessary memory." 
Please explain what features and the "unnecessary memory" thing, you can be real technical with me. 
Can that Edge functionality feature be disabled in Sound Forge? 

Me, like so many others, try to stay away from Edge completely.
I really dislike MS 365, you can buy each app separatelly but it will cost you a fortune. 
Years  ago I bought Office Professional Plus 2016 on DVD for three PCs and will keep it as long as possible. 
I only use Outlook, Word, Excel and Access. 
Many not so useful annoying features can easily be disabled in Office Pro Plus. 
No virus on my PCs! :D

Please, let me know how to uninstall MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe from Sound Forge?
To me this is not the same as phishing, it is more like a malware.
Disable "Use Newsfeed to stay informed about...." in 'Options> Preferences> General' did not help. 
Renaming doesn't help, and moving MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe to another folder doesn't help either. 
Starting Sound Forge it looks for the file (MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe) with a popup window, click on OK button, which then closes the popup window, and Sound Forge starts normal. 
In my humble opinion it is not ok to add MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe in setup.

So I tried the free IObit Uninstaller and it found nothing. 
I consider it after browsing the GUI to be a bloatware.
So I unistalled it, but an uninstall app that cannot uninstall itself? Go figure. 
Tons of leftovers, spread all over the HDD and of course in registry. Not my cup of tea. 

 

SP. wrote on 7/4/2022, 3:46 AM

@hello-varekai

Me, like so many others, try to stay away from Edge completely.

Please, let me know how to uninstall MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe from Sound Forge?

I think this feature NEEDS the Webview. Like @rraud wrote, you can disable it in the options, but still, the feature is likely hardcoded to Sound Forge and you probably cannot get rid of it.

Programmers don't want to program their own web browser from scratch but use what is already included in Windows. So Microsoft offers this features to be added with just very view lines of code. In the past the Internet Explorer was used, but it is now discontinued, so they switched to Edge.

hello-varekai wrote on 7/4/2022, 4:38 AM

OK, I understand, but let the user decide which browser they want to use. 
I'm not a programmer but an educated guess is that it won't require many lines of code. 
Usually online help files is up to the default browser user has chosen. 
If its for advertising, well that's a bummer.

Edit: What exactly was the "web page features"?

SP. wrote on 7/4/2022, 5:23 AM

@hello-varekai It has nothing to do with a browser choice. It is a built in feature in Windows to be used by developers:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/

hello-varekai wrote on 7/4/2022, 5:26 AM

Do not really understand but OK.
Then what exactly was the "web page features" in Sound Forge?

SP. wrote on 7/4/2022, 5:28 AM

@hello-varekai It is really likely that Sound Forge uses this feature to display the upgrade news if a new version comes out.

hello-varekai wrote on 7/4/2022, 5:34 AM

OK, thanks.

hello-varekai wrote on 7/4/2022, 9:54 AM

An update. 
Removed firewall and HIPS rules for Sound Forge.
Added back the MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe to appropriate folder. 
(Doesn't it sound like Microsoft Edge browser installing something?)
Let it do its thing. Start Sound Forge, no window popup looking for MicrosoftEdgeWebview2Setup.exe in Sound Forge.
Sound Forge running and (Updater) tries to connect to (newsfeed3.magix.com, ssl-update.magix.com).
Denied that of course, created new rules in firewall and HIPS for Sound Forge.
After that, Sound Forge starts normal. 
All is fine, no Microsoft Edge was installed on PC, not that I could find. 
Case closed, I hope...
 

PATIENT-X wrote on 7/4/2022, 10:43 AM

@hello-varekai

Hi

Glad you got it sorted out.

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hello-varekai wrote on 7/7/2022, 2:37 AM

Got this yesterday:
Outbound network traffic (Microsoft Edge Update)
remote site (msedge.api.cdp.microsoft.com)

With this last post on the matter, case is closed! :D