Magix Musicmaker 2015 Premium - How do I add dynamic changing effects to midi or audio loop to make more interesting

gmannhtown wrote on 9/7/2016, 2:48 PM

How can I add effects that will add changing / dynamic effect to a loop I have created in the midi editor / piano roll so it does not sound so repetitive or boring?

If this is possible to accomplish, Should I export loop as an OGG or other file type first?

For example, In below linked FL studio tutorial, I observed this video where the instructor is providing methodology to add such effects to make a loop far more interestic and not so static. You can observe the creation of the loop and changes that provide dynamic, moving effects to the sound within the first 4-5 minutes of the video.

I would like to be ble to perform similiar tasks in MMM 2015 Premium as I prefer using MMM for all my productions.

I am using Windows 10 with Samson 49 key midi keyboard.

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Munenushi wrote on 9/8/2016, 1:00 AM

If I can pop in on this, one term for this task is "automation", where you assign a value to a setting and configure it to change over time...
I found a video for MMM that shows how to do some of this (not my tutorial):

Hopefully that is what you are looking for!

gmannhtown wrote on 9/8/2016, 3:16 PM

Yes indeed Munenushi, this appears to be exactly what I am seeking. Thanks for providing proper terminology as well.

browj2 wrote on 9/8/2016, 11:22 PM

Hi Gary and M,

Automation it is. There is automation for audio objects and for MIDI objects. They are not done the same way. See page 124 in the 2017 Premium manual for Automation of Vita and Vita Solo Instruments. The controls that you see in the instruments for using with MIDI can be automated. Here is how:

1. After creating a MIDI object, open the MIDI editor. See the following screens for the rest and follow the manual.

Remember that some of the controls on the external keyboard may be linked to the MIDI file and you can modify them, such as, volume - on a touch-sensitive keyboard, and the sustain pedal. Just select the curve from the popdown. See step 3a, Velocity is the first one on the list and usually shows up by default.

I really could not understand the FL video. It was extremely convoluted. I guess if you know how to operate the program it would help. The Music Maker method seem much more straight forward, but then again, I am familiar with the program (but not all of the features).

While on this subject, you may have noticed that some of the instruments have articulations. You can actually draw in the notes for articulation changes in the Piano roll screen (MIDI). It is hard to do them live.

Munenushi wrote on 9/9/2016, 11:56 AM

Hi Gary and M,

Automation it is. There is automation for audio objects and for MIDI objects. They are not done the same way. See page 124 in the 2017 Premium manual for Automation of Vita and Vita Solo Instruments. The controls that you see in the instruments for using with MIDI can be automated. Here is how:

1. After creating a MIDI object, open the MIDI editor. See the following screens for the rest and follow the manual.

Remember that some of the controls on the external keyboard may be linked to the MIDI file and you can modify them, such as, volume - on a touch-sensitive keyboard, and the sustain pedal. Just select the curve from the popdown. See step 3a, Velocity is the first one on the list and usually shows up by default.

I really could not understand the FL video. It was extremely convoluted. I guess if you know how to operate the program it would help. The Music Maker method seem much more straight forward, but then again, I am familiar with the program (but not all of the features).

While on this subject, you may have noticed that some of the instruments have articulations. You can actually draw in the notes for articulation changes in the Piano roll screen (MIDI). It is hard to do them live.

I just wanted to pop back in to say: THANK YOU! I had no idea how to do this with MIDI........ +1

browj2 wrote on 9/10/2016, 10:11 AM

There are 2 other things that I thought I should mention.

1. If you have a MIDI controller like Gary, you should be able to link the controls on the keyboard to various controls on screen, like instruments. I don't have any controls on my keyboard and haven't tried it. When you right-click on a control on an instrument as shown in my third image, select MIDI learn, move the knob on the external controller, and they should now be linked. Please let me know if this works for you.

2. Articulations - below is an example. Open an instrument. If there are some yellow keys at the left of the keyboard, these are articulation keys. The first one is usually the default. Press on a key and now play (on the white keys area). The sound will be different. Select another one. Etc. If you are recording, the yellow key is recorded as a note but changes the articulation of any following white keys. Select another, and the following keys change. The yellow keys show up in the MIDI piano roll and you can fine-tune or add these notes there.

Remember that you cannot record anything by playing the small keyboard at the bottom of the instrument. You have to use the main Keyboard, the computer keys, or an external MIDI keyboard.

gmannhtown wrote on 9/11/2016, 10:32 AM

Hi browj2. This is great info as well. Glad the differemnce between MIDI and audio articulation has been clarified.

How might I locate the MM 2017 Premium user manual? I am searching and may be overlooking. I have MM 2015 Premium. Thanks.

browj2 wrote on 9/12/2016, 8:24 AM

Hi Gary,

I think that you meant "automation" not "articulation." Articulation was my second topic just to show another thing that can be done with the instruments that many users probably don't know about.

The user manual should be available under Help, Documentation, PDF Manual. It should have been installed in the project folder and a link created to it under:

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Music Maker Premium\Documentation

Otherwise, there should be a link in the email that you received from Magix to download the PDF Manual.