Loss of title when burning

revs wrote on 4/19/2012, 2:34 AM

MEP pro 17.

When I burn a movie the title intro is not burned with the movie. My original title was made using BluffTitler but when this failed to burn I used the MEP titler, still the same, no title after buring is completed.

If I use the encode all button the burning aborts with an error message.

I do not want markers in my movie. I get the message "the first marker is less than 1 second". How do I eliminate the use of markers? In MEP 14 there was a marker list, I can't see one in MEP 17. I have tried deleting the first marker but MEP 17 puts it back in place.

RonM

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emmrecs wrote on 4/19/2012, 2:14 PM

Hi.

I'm not sure what you mean by "markers".  If you mean "Chapter points" then MEP WILL automatically create one at the beginning if you don't put any in yourself; as I understand it the DVD Burning routine MUST have at least a starting point.  Any additional ones are entirely at your choice.

As to the title problem: I think we need to know a little more about exactly how/where you are inserting your title object(s) on the timeline.

Jeff

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revs wrote on 4/20/2012, 9:16 AM

Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your reply.

Yes I do mean chapter markers and understand a marker is put at the beginning.

I insert the objects as a title intro.

I don't quite inderstand when you that the " DVD burning routine Must have a starting point"

I have tried a few ways of inserting the intro title. Importing from BluffTiler, inserting from the titles tab with the movie already in the time line and making a title from the title tab and attaching the movie. But the movie always burns without the title.

Ron

 

johnebaker wrote on 4/20/2012, 4:09 PM

Hi Ron

Like Jeff, I am a little confused as to exactly where you are adding the title/intro - can you post a  screen shot of the timeline or other screen shots showing where you are inserting the title/intro.

Thanks

John

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revs wrote on 4/21/2012, 4:27 AM

John,

Title is at the beginning of movie. My two titles shown. Hope this helps.

Ron

johnebaker wrote on 4/22/2012, 5:17 PM

Hi

I cannot reproduce this problem with the tiles you have used.

Does the title disappear if you export a small section of the timeline to mpg?

John

PS Nice to see another Andre Rieu fan

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revs wrote on 4/23/2012, 2:22 AM

Still trying to get to grips so will let you know if I make any progress later today, if I can get on my PC.

By exporting a small section I assume you mean the title only. Will try that. Excuse my ignorance, what is mpg?

Ron

johnebaker wrote on 4/23/2012, 2:40 AM

Hi Ron

Sorry should have said export the first minute or so of the movie including the title.

Just above the timeline marker is the range bar, right click this about 1 min into the movie - you should get a blue bar set from the beginning of the movie to where you clicked.

Select  File, Export movie, Video as mpeg video, from the top dropdown select Standard DVD PAL or NTSC, check the Export selected range option, note the location the file is going to be saved in.  When the export is finished it should automatically open in Windows Media player, if not then locate the file and double click it to play.

mpg is the file extension type for an almost universal video format. 

DVD's are encoded using this format however if you look at the files on a dvd you will find the video in files which have the file extension vob.

HTH

John

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revs wrote on 4/24/2012, 1:52 AM

John,

Have done as you suggested and got the title showing in Windows Media Player.

I assume I now burn from Media Player. Is that correct?

If so I will have to copy the file to my laptop as my desktop's Media Player has no burn facility. It's a home built PC (not by me).

Ron

johnebaker wrote on 4/24/2012, 3:52 PM

Hi Ron

The export was a test to see if there was any problem encoding the title - obviously there isn't so that rules out an encoding issue with the title.

Try exporting the whole movie as mpeg with the same settings as before.

If it exports OK and the title is there then either

1.  Try burning the DVD again

OR

2. Create a new project, import the mpg created above and go through the DVD burn process setting up which menu you want etc and burn to DVD

( I would sugest you use DVD-RW for this testing as you can wipe them and reuse the for more testing.)

If the export does not go OK and the title ismissing then there is something on the timeline which is causing a glitch - what this is will be difficult to trace quickly.

HTH

John

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revs wrote on 4/26/2012, 1:38 AM

John,

I still have the same problem regarding the title. However I have worked my way around the problem by using MEP 17 to screen capture and edit, also adding the title object.

I then save the new movie and copy to a desktop folder, drag and drop into MEP 14 timeline to successfully burn to DVD-RW, title and all.

I am not technically minded regarding programs and like most people just want a result. But, to me it appears that there is a problem with MEP 17 itself or the burning process. I know this is not an ideal solution to the problem but at least I am seeing an end result.

 Reagarding Andre Rieu are you aware of the web site Harmony Parlor? A mine of information can be found here.

Thanks for your time and patience.

Regards Ron

 

 

johnebaker wrote on 5/12/2012, 4:35 AM

Hi Ron

Having to do that is not an ideal situation as MEP 17 is very capable and works OK for many users.  I would suggest you send support at Magix an email explaining what is happening, they may take a few days to respond.

I would also suggest you do not save anything on your desktop.  Using the desktop to store files etc gives the software a long file path (the location of the file) name and if the file itself has a long title you can run in to problems not being able to access the files - it is rare but it can happen.

Thanks for the Andre Rieu link.

John

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Scenestealer wrote on 5/13/2012, 10:02 PM

Not sure if this would make any difference but isn't Track 3 "reserved" for titles ie the default position. It may become important in the burn phase. Maybe it doesn't detect an alpha background in track 1. Try pulling the title down to track 3 and put a black JPEG sequence in its place in T1.

Does the burned video have exactly the same duration as the time duration displayed at the top of the timeline or is it minus the title duration?

Does the title appear when you simulate the playback in the burnscreen prior to burning? Is the first (one and only) chapter marker showing right at the start of the title sequence and showing the correct thumbnail in the DVD menu?

Ss

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terrypin wrote on 5/15/2012, 10:24 AM

Peter: I don't think it makes any difference into which track you place the title.

Ron: Like John, I can't reproduce it. Try the following ultra simple test.

Place a single JPG in track 1, and make its length say 3 seconds to keep the project as trivial as possible. 

Use Ctrl+T to bring up the Title Editor and add a standard title, nothing fancy, of the same length in track 2 under the JPG. Add fades if you like so that it's not totally static!

Open the Burn tab. Does it look OK in the Preview window?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/Ron-Test-TitleBurn-1.jpg

Open the Burn dialog, and choose DVD to get the DVD Burning dialog.

Check there's nothing odd going on with your Encoder Settings, although I don't see how that could have any effect of the sort you've described! Here's my settings:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/Ron-Test-TitleBurn-2.jpg

With no disc inserted, start the Burn process. It took just a few seconds here. When you get the instruction to insert a disc, click Cancel, then close the burn dialog.

Navigate to your Disc Images folder (shown in Program Settings > Folder) and play the DVD with a player of your choice. I use VLC. That saves messing with DVDs at all.

Does it look OK, as it does for me, title and all?

P.S: If possible, instead of inserting images in your posts, upload them somewhere (even just temporarily) and then use the Link tool as I've done. The resolution of magix.info's images is miserably low, and I can't read potentially useful details in your shots. (I reported this a year ago but it remains unchanged.)

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scouser wrote on 2/22/2013, 1:44 AM

Hi Ron

I now have the same problem. Did you ever manage to solve the issue with the errow message .

 

would appreciate the answer, do not want to start creating  this project again.

 

regards john (uk)

terrypin wrote on 2/22/2013, 5:24 AM

John,

Never heard back from Ron, but have you tried my diagnostic suggestions?

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johnebaker wrote on 2/22/2013, 5:43 PM

Hi Terry

I tried your simple test and get the same results.

John

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terrypin wrote on 2/23/2013, 8:04 AM

 

Hi Terry

I tried your simple test and get the same results.

John

Thanks John, but it was Scouser I was asking

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BTW, once again, Overview was still showing that I had no new posts. Does anyone find this tool reliable?

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