Licensing

Joseph-Jensen wrote on 7/29/2019, 11:09 AM

I have the Magix Music Maker 2018 pro version.

Is it possible to purchase licenses for specific sound loops rather than the entire soundpool?

Say for example i wanted to put my songs on Spotify. Can i buy a license for just the loops used in that specific song?

When i have a license can i sell the content on Spotify or does it have to be available for free?

Thanks.

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johnebaker wrote on 7/29/2019, 11:57 AM

@Joseph-Jensen

Hi

. . . . . Is it possible to purchase licenses for specific sound loops rather than the entire soundpool? . . . .

No.

. . . . When i have a license can i sell the content on Spotify or does it have to be available for free? . . . . .

Did you read this topic at the top of the forum?

HTH

John EB

 

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Joseph-Jensen wrote on 7/30/2019, 12:14 PM

I'm sorry about that, i am new to posting on this forum. So i was just wondering if i could offer music i composed using Magix soundpools for free on platforms like Soundcloud as the licenses are prohibitively expensive for me. Thank you for your patience.

Joe

johnebaker wrote on 7/30/2019, 1:16 PM

@Joseph-Jensen

Hi

From the article linked to in my comment above:

. . . . Music is qualified as commercial from the very moment it generates revenue . . . .

I can see that the above quote is not clear enough in the definition of who receives and what generates revenue.

The grey area is advertising, that appears alongside your upload, that is inserted by the host and is beyond your control.

In this case without further clarification from Magix, I would err on the side of caution - if there is no advertising and you are not making money from the upload, then you are safe to upload to Soundcloud or any other similar site.

HTH

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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ralftaro wrote on 8/2/2019, 8:14 AM

My off-the-cuff answer would have been: Of course you'd be able to upload the song to a free platform like SoundCloud and showcase your work there, if it doesn't make *you* any money.

Naturally, John is completely right for pointing out what seems like a small legal technicality. We all know that small legal technicalities is how lawyers usually get you! 😆 I've raised the question with our legal department yesterday and am standing by for their official response.

That having been said, this might be a moot point. I just had another look at a typical SoundCloud artist/song page, and it doesn't look like there's a whole lot of advertising going on. I suppose they mostly make their money through the paid-for "pro" accounts? However, in this case, I suppose it's still free users that drive traffic to the website with their uploaded songs, which in turn is what makes the site popular and keeps it running, which in turn is what gets them paying customers. Not sure. Seems like a much more complicated legal situation. Anyway, I can't possibly fathom MAGIX having any problem with you hosting a free song on SoundCloud (without a commercial license). If the concept of "someone is making money somewhere" prevented you from using the non-commercial license, this would also rule out a whole lot of other scenarios that we have always greenlighted in the past.

Cheers!

Joseph-Jensen wrote on 8/2/2019, 9:46 AM

Cool thanks. Just wondering how Magix would go about coming after ME for Soundcloud placing an ad on a page where i put a free song.

How would they try and get money out of me that i never saw a dime of nor even knew was made?

johnebaker wrote on 8/2/2019, 10:48 AM

@Joseph-Jensen

Hi

See this new comment by Ralftaro

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

ralftaro wrote on 8/7/2019, 7:54 AM

Hi all,

Ok, I had a little talk with one of our lawyers now, and they confirmed that, as this stage, the way SoundCloud (and e.g. also Facebook) are operating, they have no problem with people showcasing their work based on the non-commercial license, as long as there's really no commercial interest involved on the end of the MAGIX user. The fact that SoundCloud and Facebook are running a business model that enables them to potentially exploit your content commercially is currently not relevant to this decision, as long as you're not the beneficiary (as would be the case with e.g. YouTube monetisation). Please do keep in mind that commercial use doesn't just mean selling those particular songs, though. If you use the music created this way to e.g. advertise a business that you're running (e.g. as background music for a promotional video), that would also be considered commercial use. However, if you really just want to share the songs you made with the world free of charge, that's fine by us.

Cheers!