@Arcee

Hi,

So I want to Crop, then Pan

No, you just want to zoom and pan.

Cropping - take your scissors and crop a photo - you cut off parts of it and throw them away. Scan the resulting photo. Now try to find the part that you cropped out on the computer. It's not there. That is what cropping does - it cuts out part of the image and whatever was outside of that is no longer available.

You want the whole image to be available. Simply zoom in and move the image to where you want, like with the football in the centre of the screen, set a keyframe. Move along the timeline, pan by moving the image. A keyframe will be set automatically. Play it back and you'll see that the image moves/pans from one kf to the next. Continue on doing the same thing - moving the image to keep the ball in the centre of the screen. Just make sure that your video does not go out of the window. If you're project is Full HD, you can zoom in to 200% with no loss of resolution. After that, you're losing resolution.

Watch this tutorial. It's not about doing the above, but I do show some basics of the Size/Position effect with keyframing.

John CB

@Arcee

Unfortunately, you've been conned. What you have now is Magix Movie Studio, which is totally different to Vegas Movie Studio. Vegas Movie Studio was stopped a couple of years ago and Magix (probably not intentionally) offered an "upgrade", named Magix Movie Studio, when in fact the offering was merely Magix Movie Edit Pro. Magix has since renamed Movie Edit Pro to Movie Studio, making the whole issue even more confusing for users of Vegas Movie Studio.

In Magix, the Crop and Pan equivalent is called Camera/Zoom Shot, although you can use Size/Position/Rotation to achieve the same thing in a more clumsy way.

I suggest you have a look at John's tutorials (as per the previous post and in the Tutorials section) but ultimately, if Vegas Movie Studio 16 is working for you, stick with that until you get time to retrain yourself.

@Arcee

As a follow up, after watching the video, you'll notice that you can zoom out on the preview monitor - the whole premise of the tutorial. You cannot do this in Vegas anything.

You'll find that using Size/Position/Rotation in Magix MS is much simpler, more logical, and more powerful than in Vegas MS. I have just started working on my next tutorial which explains, in detail, the SPR effects.

Here is a quick and dirty demonstration doing Size/Position Zooming and Panning keyframing. You might want to turn the music down, or off.

@AAProds

Hi Al,

Conned may be a bit strong. I would rather say "saved from oblivion."

John CB

@browj2 @Arcee

John, Camera/Zoomshot is so much easier.

"Oblivion" comment sent to oblivion.

The real Movie Studio was sent to oblivion, for what appears to be a very good reason; to get rid of MEP's competition

That, to my understanding, is incorrect. VMS was discontinued by the Vegas team in the USA so they could concentrate on Vegas Pro. It was not Magix's decision. I gather the Vegas engineering team is nowadays very much smaller than in Sony Creative Software days. Engineering of the Vegas range audio products was transferred to Magix in Germany.

It is unfortunate that Magix decided to cause confusion by changing the name of MEP to MS especially as MEP/MS cannot properly open VMS "vf" project files.

you'll notice that you can zoom out on the preview monitor - the whole premise of the tutorial. You cannot do this in Vegas anything.

This changed with the latest update to Vegas Pro 20 which now has "Zoomable preview". Many years overdue. Not being a VP user I cannot check whether it can zoom out as well as in.

@ericlnz

Eric, fair enough, comment deleted. There could only be one reason why MEP was changed to MMS though.😎

@AAProds

Hi Al,

As Eric says and as was posted in a thread on the Vegas forum by an employee as well as officially, the Vegas team had to work on both products so both suffered. They chose to drop Vegas MS to concentrate on Pro. Magix quickly came up with the idea to allow VMS timelines to be imported into MEP. Obviously, Magix would not want to lose the Vegas MS users and this was about the only way to keep them. You don't kill a product that you own that competes with another product that you own without trying to keep the customers of the killed product.

Note that the name change is only for the English market. Why? Because in the huge US market, Vegas MS had a lot more users than MEP. Outside of North America (and Japan), Vegas MS was not well-known - language limitations. Obviously, Magix wanted to keep those users.

In the consumer market, Vegas MS was seriously lagging behind as the competition had more and better features and a whole lot more content. MEP always had much, much more, as do Pinnacle Studio, VideoStudio, and CyberLink.

As for Camera/Zoom Shot, in the case of the OP, it would be more appropriate than what I showed, but anyone using it should first learn about SPR as that is what Camera/Zoom Shot uses. It's just another and simpler way of doing the same thing, with limitations (boundary limits can be exceeded, no rotation). See below for a quick demo on using Camera/Zoom Shot. We're still waiting for your tutorial on this.

@ericlnz

Hi Eric,

Yes, I see the new "Zoomable preview" in Vegas 20, but I don't see that you can zoom outside of the preview window like I show in the tutorial and the latter part of the video below.

@Arcee

Hi,

Here is the other method to do what you want and is probably more appropriate to your case. I turn on the Size/Position/Rotation effect in the keyframe area near the beginning of the video to give access to manual keyframing. This was to be able to add a keyframe without touching the rectangle in the Preview Window - I wanted to hold the zoom and position for a period and that is how to do it. Otherwise, you have to make a modification to the rectangle, however small, to get a keyframe.

John CB