Installing Audio Cleaning Lab 3.0 (2002) on W10

si-m5943 wrote on 7/20/2022, 10:48 AM

Hi,

I've been trying to install ACL3.0 ( 3.0.1.0) for some time on my W10pC. I have installed MAGIX Movies on CD & DVD 4.0 no problem.

The Wise installation runs and seems to complete from dvd but when I run the shortcut to the exe or the exe itself I get a 'user account control window ' popping up with the 'unknown publisher' stuff , I click yes , the screen goes black for a second and then reverts back to the desktop. The PC specs are at the foot of this message. I am fairly sure I had it installed last year but have migrated / updated my hard drive to a ssd.

I have tried all the compatibility versions.

Any ideas please ?

Thanks in advance

Processor   AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphics 3.50 GHz
Installed RAM   8.00 GB (5.92 GB usable)
System type   64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Edition   Windows 10 Home
Version   21H1
Installed on   ‎27/‎08/‎2020
OS build   19043.1826
Experience   Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4180.0

Comments

SP. wrote on 7/20/2022, 11:01 AM

@si-m5943 Ok, of course there is no guarantee, that a software that is twenty years old, will still run on a modern system.

To check for possible causes please install Process Monitor from Microsoft. This tool will record all processes on your computer. After you start it, you first need to stop the recording or you will get a list with hundreds of thousands records in seconds. Firstly, add a filter for the process name, enter the name of the Audio Cleaning Lab 3 exe file. Now Process Monitor will only show records of what happens with ACL 3. Secondly, start recording and run the program. After it crashes stop the recording. Now we can check the entries for ACL 3. The last entries in the list should hopefully give us an idea why the crash is happening.

si-m5943 wrote on 7/20/2022, 12:22 PM

Hi, thanks for your reply.

I have attached the bottom section of the PM report though not sure what they all mean.

There are a few 'file locked', 'name not found' 'FILE LOCKED WITH ONLY READERS' 'buffer overflow' in the list above.

Any ideas ? Thanks

SP. wrote on 7/20/2022, 1:39 PM

@si-m5943 Yes, wing.dll is ancient, back from the Windows 3.1 days. That is why it is missing. Directly after failing to load that a thread exits, then the process exits. Is there some more information if you right click on the Process Exit entry and then on properites?

johnebaker wrote on 7/21/2022, 7:03 AM

@si-m5943

The installer and program is not compatible with Windows 10 due to significant changes in the operating system and its components which both the installer and program use.

If you could get ACL 3 installed it would have display issues - wing.dll is an old graphics api that is no longer distributed with modern versions of Windows, nor can it be installed on Windows 10.

John EB
Forum Moderator.

SP. wrote on 7/21/2022, 7:51 AM

@johnebaker I don't think that ACL3 needs it for its graphics because wing.dll was long abandoned even before ACL3 was released but it just checks if it is there. Maybe ACL3 has a WinG-graphics mode for computers without DirectX compatible graphics hardware.

johnebaker wrote on 7/21/2022, 10:43 AM

@SP.

. . . . I don't think that ACL3 needs it for its graphics because wing.dll was long abandoned even before ACL3 was released . . . .

ACL 3 was only certified for Windows 95 to XP, however I did have it running on Windows 8 back in 2016, however it would not run on Windows 10.

Given that @si-m5943 processor is at most 4 years old, and the integrated GPU supports DirectX 12, wing.dll would be is very unlikely to support this modern GPU.

John EB

SP. wrote on 7/22/2022, 10:48 AM

@si-m5943 What properties do the thread exit and process exit events have?

si-m5943 wrote on 7/24/2022, 11:02 AM

Thanks for clarifying.

attached are the properties of 'thread exit' and ' process exit' which appear from the end of the list in PM . There is another pair earlier on.

SP. wrote on 7/24/2022, 11:49 AM

@si-m5943 Thanks, but sadly it is not useful to just screenshot incomplete information. You could uploaded the PML file to a file sharing service like wetransfer. Otherwise you need to screenshot everything from the properties tabs.

si-m5943 wrote on 7/31/2022, 9:07 AM

Thanks. Sorry for the delay in getting back , I've been away. Hopefully attached are the jpegs for the properties of the 'Thread Exit ' and 'Process Exit'.