How to select the correct pre-setting for burning blu ray disc

papadewey wrote on 4/20/2012, 10:22 AM

When I am ready to burn my high definition project to Blu Ray disc, I have the option of selecting different pre-sets.  I live in the US and use NTSC video format.  I selected 1920x 1080i NTSC, but when the burn completed successfully, I was unable to view the video in my Sony stand alone blu ray player.  IThe disc will play back fine on my computer.  Need help from someone to learn how to do this correctly.

 

Thanks

 

Vincent

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johnebaker wrote on 4/20/2012, 4:28 PM

Hi

On the BD burning menu option 2 you have the choice of MPEG-2  or H.264; which ever you used try to burn again using the other option.

What model Sony BD player are you using and does it support the video format, ie MPEG-2 or H.264, you initially used?

John

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papadewey wrote on 4/20/2012, 5:52 PM

John,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to help answer my question. The standalone Sony Blue ray player is a BDP-BX2 it has the latest firmware installed.  I picked H.264 the first time, under disk format.  Since I live in the USA and want the disc to be NTSC  I changed  the default encoder setting,  which was for PAL, to Blu ray 1920X 1080i NTSC.

The disk burned successfully, and I am able to play it on my blu ray computer cd-rom with no problem.  But when I try to play it on the Sony Blu ray, the player attempts to play, but stalls on a blank screen with no error message, and just the blue light burning above the center, I guess indicating that a blu ray disk is in the machine.

I understand that H.264 is a newer high def. format as oppsed to the older Mpeg2 am I correct?  Will the quality of the end product suffer using this setting as opposed to H.264.

When I select Mpeg2 as you suggested and look at the encoder setting it says user defined.  So I do not know what the video quality will be ( screen format 1080 X 720, etc..  There are different setting under encoder setting,  Do I need to set those also, or leave it user defined?

According to the Blu Ray manual the Sony machine should play H.264 but it does not .

I will wait till I hear back from you before attempting your suggestion.  And maybe you can tell me if I leave the Preset as user defined when I use the Mpeg2 setting you suggest.

Thank you agin for trying to help me.  I have burned many standard DVD's but this is my first exploration into burning a Blu ray disk.  Oh one last thing,  the blank discs I am using are Verbatim BD-R LTH type 6X 25 GB.

Vincent

 

 

 

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2012, 5:17 AM

Hi Vincent

Using the MPEG-2 option should not give any distinguishable difference in quality.  The reason you get the User Defined option is possibly because you have used this option before and changed a setting and  MEP has remembered this - select the HD standard you need from the dropdown.

I suspect the problem may be with the discs as the player behaviour suggest it cannot recognise them.

Have you tried a standard BD-R or BD-RE disc instead of the Verbatim LTH?

Also you can do a test by burning BD to a standard DVD-R or DVD-RW disc  providing the video is no longer than 20 - 30 mins.

For test burns I use rewriteable discs - saves money  )

John

 

 

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Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

papadewey wrote on 4/21/2012, 9:57 AM

John,

Thanks again for your knowledge on the subject.  I will try your suggestions and get back with you on it.  I am not sure why I purchased the LTH type, I bought them on Amazon, and I guess my lack of knowledge did not know what type to look for.

 

Vincent

papadewey wrote on 4/25/2012, 2:02 PM

John,

If you checked back here, here is an update of the burning a blue ray disk in MEP17 plus.  I ordered and received a RE blue ray doublelayer disk today.  Ouch, $17.00 for one  Verbatium.  But I am disk burning a test copy with V.264 format, and will test in player  later this evening.  It will be interesting to find out if the problem was with the newer LTH type BR discs.  I understand that is less expensive for the manufacturer to make these LTH and not every blue ray player manufacturer, has issued supporting firmware for the player to recognize and play them.  I will let you know how the BD-RE works.  Again thanks for your support and help.

Vincent

papadewey wrote on 4/25/2012, 11:12 PM

John,

 

Tryed to play the BD-RE DS disk I purchased and burned in MEP17 plus.  I get the same results as the other two BD-R type LTH.  The player accepts the disk, loads the disk, but displays a black screen and pressing the play button has no effect.  I looked at some other forums and it seems there are numerous problems with Sony Blu Ray players playing burned BD disks.  Something about firmware updates, but I have the most current updates for my machine.  Can I ask what type of blue ray player do you have? And what brand of BE media do you use?  I will keep looking for an answer, which will probably be related to the player rather than the burning software.

Vincent

johnebaker wrote on 4/27/2012, 12:01 PM

Hi Vincent

The problem, is as you say, beginning to point to your BD player/ disc combination. 

My BD player is a Sony BDP-S570 and plays every disc I have used - Ritek, Ridisc, Maxell (DVD), Verbatim (DVD) and TDK (DVD) .

For both BD and DVD discs I now use Ritek or Ridisc full face printable BD-R and DVD-R - I find they play in almost any player and have very few failures.

For testing I use Verbatim DVD+RW for both DVD and BD movies - most of my movies in HD are 20 - 35 mins long and I can get them to fit on a 4.7Gb DVD disc - saves money also .

To check your player further - create a short HD movie, ie less than 30 mins long, use the same menu as before and burn as a BD but use a DVD disc instead of a BD disc.

John

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

papadewey wrote on 5/7/2012, 9:38 AM

John

Still have no answers to the question of high definition setting for burning BD disks.  When I took the BD-R and BD-ER disks to my sons to try to play them on his PS3 player they failed the same as on the Sony Blu Ray player, that is it started to load then just stopped a a blank screen, which had no error messages.  I even tryed to play them in my son's computer BD player and they failed.  This does not speak well for burning blu ray on Magix system.  Most people would have given up by now. 

 

But I want to find an answer which might be a help to someelse having the same frustration.  Only thing in common with all the burns to disks, they are all Verbatium, which is supposed to be one of the best manufactures of any disk media.

I am going to try to make a file with the vidoe and see if I can import it into Cyberlink Power director and see if I can burn a good disk.  I also have seen a lot of answers and users of Imgburn for producing disks.

Oh when I tryed to play the regular DVD burned with BDimage is is very choppy and jerky.

Any new ideas are welcome.

Vincent