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cpc000cpc wrote on 5/22/2013, 8:10 AM

southpolewind,

Erosion has the usual key frame animation control but Palette, aka Substitution, does not. Search the help file for 'effect curve'.

You can however get dynamic variation in the Palette/Substitution effect by varying Brightness/Contrast.

Regards,

Carl

southpolewind wrote on 5/22/2013, 9:25 AM

Thank you for quick answer.

Seems i have different version, cause my Erosion doesnt have control.

It looks like this.

I have movie edit pro 16 plus,

version 9.0.6.6 (C1)

To which version i must update, for to get those control options?

Thank you for help!

 

terrypin wrote on 5/22/2013, 10:55 AM

Hi,

I just checked in MEP 16 Plus 9.0.6.6 (C1) and it does have KFA for Erosion, as you see here:

 

Position the marker, set the erosion level, and then create a KF.

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johnebaker wrote on 5/22/2013, 4:16 PM

Hi

I agree with Terry except in one detail -

. . . . Position the marker, set the erosion level, and then create a KF. . . . 

With the object selected and the Erosion options selected -  position the marker, set the KF then adjust the Erosion setting.

This way the previous KF (if you have one for Erosion) does not get set to the same value as the current KF as sometimes happens.

John

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southpolewind wrote on 5/23/2013, 3:48 AM

Thank you for the answers,

I did make a new project and added Erosion effect to it and still the KFA looks like this.

Can it be because my version has come as bundle with Sequoia daw.

Do i have to select something else? for to get same controls to erosion as You have?

johnebaker wrote on 5/23/2013, 4:21 AM

Hi

Are you adding the keyframes using these controls?

Set the Keyframe with the white diamond as per my previous post.

You need to set thes where you want the effect to start and end and change the values in the Erosion setting eg

If you want to start the erosion to start at 1 sec into the clip and change the level over 3 secs

   - move the timeline cursor to 1 sec in to the clip

   - click the white diamond

   - change the value in the Erosion control

   - move the timeline cursor to 4 secs in to the clip

   - click the white diamond

   - change the value in the Erosion control

HTH

John

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cpc000cpc wrote on 5/23/2013, 5:01 AM

Adding to John's & Terry's directions:

You won't see any key frame markers until you click on the add marker diamond icon (John has highlighted the control panel), or add one.by changing the value of the effect from its default value.

Magix MEP product info says that key frame animation is available on all versions so I don't think your Sequoia source is the problem which might well be the case for multicam editing etc.

southpolewind wrote on 5/23/2013, 6:42 AM

OK! Thank you.

Now it works. I had never before done other effects than move or zoom.

And there it of course makes the keyframes automatically at start.

So this did cause confusion.

Next question is, it possible to have curve over the object, that shows the KF points and level of them.

So that different KF effects would be faster edit. Like level and pan and other effect levels are show in Daw´s.

Thank you a lot.

southpolewind wrote on 5/23/2013, 6:45 AM

 

OK! Thank you.

Now it works. I had never before done other effects than move or zoom.

And there it of course makes the keyframes automatically at start.

So this did cause confusion.

Next question is, it possible to have curve over the object, that shows the KF points and level of them.

So that different KF effects would be faster edit. Like level and pan and other effect levels are show in Daw´s.

Thank you a lot.

OK found it,  its the "eye" mark.  OR is there other way to get automation levels seen?

Scenestealer wrote on 5/23/2013, 5:47 PM

Hi

Some tips from my answer to a French post where the member wanted to change the level of several KF's at once ie. change one parameter at all keyframes, say the "Width" only, of a picture that was moving through the frame without changing the "Position" KF's. 

After making the effect curve visible in the timeline or in the small keyframe animator timeline"-

" you can also "shift" click the first and last keyframe and all in between will be selected.

Also, it is sometimes better to click the triangle dropdown beside the effect name in the keyframe editor and select "edit effect curves" and a window will open where you can change the position of the whole effect along the timeline, the strength of the effect, and even invert or mirror the effect about an axis."

And further - where there are multiple sub parameters under a heading like Size / Position:-

"..... using the "Edit effect curves" window  - click the triangle to the Left of the "Image size / position" name in the keyframe animator and all the individual parameters will appear ie. width, height, posn. etc. Click the triangle to the right of the parameter you want to change and select "Edit effects curve". Enter a pixel or % value in the appropriate Effect box and click the + or - button to change the effect for all keyframes, by the entered increment.

In your case, to change the size, Ctrl click the height and width parameter names after opening the Edit effects curve window - both will change at all keyframe points, by the entered increment when clicking + or-.

Pretty Cool!"

HTH.

Ss

 

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terrypin wrote on 5/24/2013, 1:14 AM

Hi Peter,

Great stuff, thanks for re-posting those neat techniques!

Terry, East Grinstead, UK 

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