I have been using Movie Edit pro 12 for years and it has been quite clunky. I switched over to Movie Edit Pro Premium as I saw it was installed on my computer along with a plethora of Magix software. So far it has been better but all of a sudden I am unable to import .MOV files and need a fee-based activation code. Is this normal? Was I using a free trial? Is this a one time payment or for every video? did my product unregistered?
Thanks
Hi
. . . . Is this normal? . . . .
Yes, the fee based activation is mentioned in the specifications here - under the File Formats section.
However before purchasing I would suggest the you download and install MediaInfo and analyse one of the video clips you are trying to import, post the results from the Text view, and is generating the codec request - there may be another problem associated with the video clips which will cause issues.
John EB
Forum Moderator
Hi Andrew.
I'm confused as to why you need a fee based codec to play mov files which are QuickTime based not HEVC. Have you reinstalled the last available Windows version of QuickTime onto your computer that I assume you have now running a machine using Windows 10?
So, have you got a new machine? You mention
I switched over to Movie Edit Pro Premium as I saw it was installed on my computer along with a plethora of Magix software.
Supplied by?
It would help a great deal if you gave us more information on what is going on and on what.
Ray.
Hi Andrew.
I'm confused as to why you need a fee based codec to play mov files which are QuickTime based not HEVC. Have you reinstalled the last available Windows version of QuickTime onto your computer that I assume you have now running a machine using Windows 10?
Supplied by?
It would help a great deal if you gave us more information on what is going on and on what.
Ray.
I am not trying to merely play the movies (that being said I am unable to) I am trying to import .mov files to my MVP projects.
Upon further research, I believe Apple (content recorded from an iPhone) utilize HEIC and HEVC to save room for picture and video files respectively. The flies show as .HEIC for images and .MOV for movies. Although it say .MOV I am almost positive that it is .HEVC. I do have the free Windows HEIC codec installed on my computer but I cannot import those images into my project.
Windows also has a HEVC codec for $.99. Has anyone had success using this? Is there something I am missing?
Hi Andrew.
The reason John asked you to download MediaInfo and post the results of looking at one of your files is he strongly suspects it will not only be a mov wrapper but also using a variable frame rate within the codec.
Apple effectively cut free support for their codecs to other operating systems around 2016 so most new files captured by newer i Phones now have to be converted using programs like Handbrake to a constant frame rate MP4 or similar codec before they can be edited in most Windows based video editors. I only say 'most video editors' because all of those I have looked at can't cope with the files but I don't pretend to have looked at all available Windows based video editors. The MEP HEVC codec in this instance will be of no benefit and is only to allow the program to export a project in the standard HEVC format.
Also HEIC is not supported, only HEIF.
Why I'm not sure but may have something to do with the way our hardware works within Windows.
The nearest I can find on explanations is here.
Ray.
Hi
. . . . Windows also has a HEVC codec for $.99. Has anyone had success using this? . . . . .
The Windows codec is for playback only in Films and TV or Windows Media Player and is not available to toher programs.
As @CubeAce has said the MediaInfo analysis will tell us exactly what the video encoding format and the framerate type.
. . . . I switched over to Movie Edit Pro Premium . . . . content recorded from an iPhone . . . .
That could add further complications if the video format is definitely HEVC.
What is the version number as found under Help, About?
What is your computer specification - see this topic for details of what is required.
John EB
The HEVC codec has to be paid-for. If your files are HEVC, I'd suggest you just pay up. 👍
I can open variable frame rate HEVC files with no issue (can't vouch for the audio sync because the clips are not long enough). I have the HEVC codec, but this is a separate issue to the frame rate. HEVC and the frame rate, at least on Android, are two separately selected features. I also have Quicktime Alternative installed.
I do all this on a machine that is allegedly way below spec.
In my view this is only about codecs, not the computers themselves (apart from unticking Hardware acceleration).
Hi Alwyn.
In the topic I linked to earlier there is this paragraph.
All iOS devices loaded with iOS 11 and later are able to software-decode HEIF content and HEIC images. However, only devices with Apple’s A9 chip and later are able to hardware-decode HEIF content. To hardware-decode HEIC images and 8-bit video content on a Mac, you will need to use Intel’s 6th Generation and newer CPUs, while 10-bit video content will require 7th Generation and newer Intel CPUs.
If you use a PC, you will need to use Windows 10 and update it to April 2018 Update and higher to be able to software-decode HEIF content.
I don't know this from first hand experience but it would appear to depend on the content of the HEIF file.
Ray.
Andrew, did you install that HEVC codec and how did you get on opening your MOVs?
Ray, from that article, it seems that HEIF is not relevant to this discussion. It is an image format/container only, not a video format/codec.
Magix says MEP will open HEVC files if the codec is installed (after paying). If it doesn't do so, then it needs to change the spec sheet.
Also, I'm confused as to why you need a fee based codec to play mov files which are QuickTime based not HEVC.
A MOV file can be HEVC. Here's one from an iphone 11:
General
Complete name : D:\Computer Reference\MOV Files\iphone 11 20201031_141621.MOV
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt )
File size : 87.6 MiB
Duration : 1 min 19 s
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 235 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2020-10-31 06:16:21
Tagged date : UTC 2020-10-31 06:17:41
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model : iPhone 11
com.apple.quicktime.software : 14.0.1
com.apple.quicktime.creationdate : 2020-10-31T14:16:21+0800
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 1 min 19 s
Bit rate : 8 980 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Minimum frame rate : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.144
Stream size : 85.2 MiB (97%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2020-10-31 06:16:21
Tagged date : UTC 2020-10-31 06:17:41
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC
Cheers, Al
@AAProds @Andrew-Guerin @johnebaker
Hi Alwyn.
OK. I have always had both the HEVC codecs and QuickTime installed so have never noticed the deficiency. Point taken. Thank You.
Your example as you show it may not show visible signs of problems due to the minimum and maximum frame rates not being that far apart nor perhaps for long enough periods to cause problems. It's possible that variation only happened for a very short period of time so would not produce significant judder to be visible of to throw the sound out of sync. Nor are you that likely to cut the clip up and put segments in out of order.
As you state, such clips will play but there is another consideration that may throw MEP or VPX out. Your file has an 8bit depth and the codec can cope up to 12 bit. Without seeing a clips info it is difficult to pinpoint potential problems or know what hardware will cope with the processing requirements. Your file is 8 bit, with a normal limited colour range, and the variation of frame speed not that great. Compared with what can be produced with that codec it is not that challenging. What concerns me is when the codec does produce files that have more demanding data to be read and how Windows based machines cope. Video editors in particular that are at present more for producing finished files for internet and DVD \ Blu-Ray use where even YouTube would not be able to either upload or re-encode such files or play them back over the internet.
I would also find it interesting if you put your file through this site to find its GOP structure.
Ray.