Fade or volume wont work.

orion-diaram wrote on 4/21/2018, 5:45 AM

I've been trying to add a few effects within a song I'm writing.
I want one of the instruments to fade out, but it's just not playing ball.
The instrument I'm using is Revolta 2 Technotice.
The software I'm using is Music Maker plus 2017

My computer specs are:-

Processor: AMD(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor 4GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 32 GB
Windows 7 (64 bit)
Sound Card: Onboard Realtek / NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Software: Music Maker Version 25.1.2.78

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orion-diaram wrote on 4/21/2018, 5:50 AM

Ok, I've been trying the fade out on the piano and it works, so I'm guessing it's got something to do with the Revolta instruments. None of them will fade out.
the question then is, is there a way around getting them to fade?
Please.....

My computer specs are:-

Processor: AMD(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor 4GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 32 GB
Windows 7 (64 bit)
Sound Card: Onboard Realtek / NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Software: Music Maker Version 25.1.2.78

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2018, 7:20 AM

Hi

Very odd that the Revolta is the only one which does not respond to the fade out on the timeline - tested in MMM 2018.

As work around you can change the instruments volume to fade out using the MIDI Editor, click the Prg button arrowed in the image below to open the channel options and select the Volume channel

Using the drawing tools just above the Prg button you can set the volume to fade out as shown below

HTH

John EB

Last changed by johnebaker on 4/21/2018, 7:21 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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orion-diaram wrote on 4/21/2018, 7:36 AM

johnebaker, I tried that a hundred times already, lol, but it simply refuses to fade out. I've tried the fade out on the object, the volume in the midi editor, and even the velocity. Still nothing.

My computer specs are:-

Processor: AMD(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor 4GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 32 GB
Windows 7 (64 bit)
Sound Card: Onboard Realtek / NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Software: Music Maker Version 25.1.2.78

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2018, 7:54 AM

Hi

Correction - it did work the first time - now ignores volume curve!

After further experimenting it would appear the Revolta instrument is totally ignoring the Volume MIDI command on channel 7, with other instruments you can see the master volume control responding correctly.

John EB

Last changed by johnebaker on 4/21/2018, 8:11 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

orion-diaram wrote on 4/21/2018, 8:12 AM

By pure coincidence, when I adjusted the velocity again, the sound of the instrument changed, suggesting there's two samples playing for that one instrument.

 

My computer specs are:-

Processor: AMD(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor 4GHz
Installed Memory (RAM): 32 GB
Windows 7 (64 bit)
Sound Card: Onboard Realtek / NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

Software: Music Maker Version 25.1.2.78

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2018, 8:58 AM

Hi

. . . . I adjusted the velocity again, the sound of the instrument changed, suggesting there's two samples playing for that one instrument . . . .

You should find that the Filter velocity control moving when there are changes?

I have been testing assigning the MIDI CC 007 to the volume control in Revolta - see image below - there are CC codes added in the piano roll however there is no response - Revolta just ignores it completely.

The annoying part is I did get it working once and saw the volume control changing !!!!! 😡

Time for a coffee and rethink!

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2018, 10:21 AM

Hi

After a bit of lateral thinking and testing - the instruments I have that do not respond to volume change commands are:

  • Revolta 2
  • DN-e1
  • Tyrell N6
  • TAL Noise maker
  • OB-XD
  • DSK Techsynth Pro
  • DSK SF2
  • DSK Analog Matrix

The common factor appears to be that these have multiple LFO's and/or Oscillators which are using one to drive another or an LFO is driving a filter.

HTH

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

gamehits wrote on 11/25/2018, 3:08 AM

Hi

After a bit of lateral thinking and testing - the instruments I have that do not respond to volume change commands are:

  • Revolta 2
  • DN-e1
  • Tyrell N6
  • TAL Noise maker
  • OB-XD
  • DSK Techsynth Pro
  • DSK SF2
  • DSK Analog Matrix

The common factor appears to be that these have multiple LFO's and/or Oscillators which are using one to drive another or an LFO is driving a filter.

HTH

John EB

 

Ditto. Is there a fix for this yet?