Exporting is no faster on much faster computer?

Kami_1 wrote on 11/1/2015, 9:48 PM

When I exported the mp4 to see if the codec would be activated, the 20 second export was no faster on my new computer with MEP 2016 than with my 6 year old computer with MX(18). Same with exporting the same to mpg. My new computer has an i7-5930K processor hexa-core [3.5GHz, 15MB Shared Cache], 24 GB Ram, and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB GDDR5. I've noticed other things are much faster. The old one was an i7-920 processor, 12 GB Ram, and Nvidia GeForce GTX 260.

Any ideas why I'm not getting more speed?

Would it be any faster if I put the video projects on the SSD drive for exporting?

Thanks. Kami

PS .. What happened to MPG1?

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mojoaudioguru wrote on 11/2/2015, 8:35 PM

I just installed a larger SSD in my computer. (500 gig. The old one was only 64 gig) I then installed MEP 2016+, 2015+, and 2014+ on it, (I only had 2014+ on the old SSD), and everything is much faster. My computer is an older Windows 7 Ultimate, with 10 gig of DDR2 RAM, an NVidia GTX460 with 1 gig of DDR3 RAM, and an old overclocked, (3.4 GHz), Q9550 core 2 quad, and everything is much faster. Give it a try, and see what happens.

browj2 wrote on 11/2/2015, 8:48 PM

Hi Kami,

Read through this thread.

I have an SSD as my C drive and another SSD that I export/encode to. Much faster than a normal drive..

Also, watch out for those effects, especially third party ones, they can slow down rendering enormously. NeatVideo is very slow. It took 60 hours to encode a 1:20 video, and got it wrong. My solution was to export to mxv various parts and then build the final version from those.

Kami_1 wrote on 11/2/2015, 11:47 PM

Thanks to both replies.

I can give that a try, good to know it will make a difference. My SSD is 512 GB. I can do the editing on the regular SATA drive which is 3 TB, then copy them to the SSD drive. Problem is that if I copy the original video files, MEP won't be able to find them. I know I can put all the files for a project in one folder, but that's so unkempt. I've always kept the originals separate, even on a separate hard drive.

Still, considering the higher speed and twice the memory I this computer has (compared with the old one), and that this version of MEP is 64 bit, I don't understand why the exports aren't faster than on the old one. My exports are Standard Def., 4x3; the only non MEP effects are those of the Mercalli. Most of my videos use only 3 tracks, occasionally I'll have something on a 4th track. It just doesn't make sense to me.

browj2 wrote on 11/3/2015, 12:06 AM

Kami,

No! Leave the source files where they are on the SATA drive, but send the export or the encode to the SSD drive. AFAIK the problem is with the rendering or the output, not the source.However, if the SSD is your system drive with Windows, then you may want to look at getting another SSD drive. My external SSD is connected through a SATA to USB 3 connection. My C drive which is an SSD drive, is internal and I only use it for the system and programs.

Kami_1 wrote on 11/3/2015, 12:30 AM

Okay, I just did some experimenting. I made 2 sets of mpg exports, btn. 18 and 22 seconds. One set is edited, incl. Mercalli edits, the video of the other is unedited.

One of each was exported from the MVP file on my E drive (plain SATA) and one after copying the MVP file to the SSD drive. (The source videos are on the SATA (E) drive.)

There was almost NO speed difference between the edited and unedited footage. Nor was there much of a speed difference whether the project files were on the SSD or the SATA drive.

There is somewhat of a speed difference between these four test videos and those I made onto the SATA (E) drive, but not as much as I would have expected.

But the MVP files loaded much faster from the SSD drive!

Kami,

No! Leave the source files where they are on the SATA drive, but send the export or the encode to the SSD drive. AFAIK the problem is with the rendering or the output, not the source.However, if the SSD is your system drive with Windows, then you may want to look at getting another SSD drive. My external SSD is connected through a SATA to USB 3 connection. My C drive which is an SSD drive, is internal and I only use it for the system and programs.

johnebaker wrote on 11/3/2015, 1:48 AM

Hi Kami

. . . . . Any ideas why I'm not getting more speed? . . . .

The problem you are having is probably due to not using Hardware Acceleration - ie CUDA, QuickSync, or OpenCL by the program - check the programs settings and, if you have a NVidia graphics card, check its settings has MEP set to use the GPU see here for how.

This means the encoding has to be done by the CPU instead of the GPU and this is naturally slower.

To give you an example a project with 3 tracks - 2 video / images and one audio withcuts, crossfades and simple transitions eg wipes, on my i5 computer (integrated graphics) will render and export at an average rate of approx 50 fps ie in approx half real time.

Add in the Mercalli stabilsation, the same project render rate drops to approx 15 fps ie about 1.7 x real time.

My computer has 2 SATA 3 hard drives - one for OS and programs, one for data, and 1 SATA 3 SSD drive which I export to.

Exporting to the SSD drive speeds up the process, not because the SSD drive is faster, but the data hard drive is not having to switch between reading data then having data written back to itself so much then if you have a single data drive.

HTH

John EB

Kami_1 wrote on 11/3/2015, 11:57 PM

Hi John, Thanks for the reply.

(I had to call HP today because the Nvidia Control Panel hadn't been activated.)

After looking at the screenshot on the link, I added MEP to the Nvidia Program Settings List. I made sure the CUDA-GPU is set to Use global setting (All). I made no other changes, since I have no idea what they mean.

Also, these options are under 3D settings. I'm not using 3D.

Hardware acceleration wasn't checked. I checked it, will do more testing. (I'm guessing that I don't need hardware acceleration for playback.)

I've also been in touch with Magix tech. He told me about the different codecs and how to activate the Main Concept codec (with the dialog window I'm used to and MPG1). I did some testing with the same clips as the previous tests. Both the edited and unedited videos exported faster with the Main Concept codec.... not a lot faster, but it was noticeable. It's now about the same speed as on my old computer.

Two computers ago, it took 12 hours to render a DVD. On my previous computer, that time was cut in half, sometimes more. So I expected the export speed on the new computer to be at least half again, even more.

I also wanted to check the speed of my previous version, MX18, but it won't install. It goes to a Welcome (I think) dialog window, then a second later it all stops. It's the download version, so I downloaded it again, with the same result.