Export Selected Range not Exporting Selected Range

Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/17/2020, 9:11 AM

Hi. I am new to Movie Edit Pro 2021 but this has really stumped me and would appreciate any help.

I have a movie that includes a Title, 4 video clips and a wave file. The timeline in the preview window shows the total length to be 3:13:19. The timeline above the track lanes show the length to be 3:13:19. I have the timeline locked. Also have all the track lanes locked. When I select the Export Movie option, I have the "Export Selected Range" box checked. Yet when I Export it, the videos aren't aligned as shown when I play it in preview mode and it runs a total of 3:52.

I have shortened and extended so of the video files but again looks perfect when I run the preview.

I have read everything I can find in the manual relating to Exporting but I must be missing something.

Any help greatly appreciated as this is a Christmas project I'd really like to complete.

If there is a number a user can call for a paid support session I'd like to know what that is.

Thank you!

Phil

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johnebaker wrote on 12/17/2020, 9:31 AM

@Phil-Lowder

Hi

The Export range option is only used to export a specific selected range of the timeline, usually a section of it, as indicated by the blue bar at the top of the timeline, if yours is set as shown below, ie goes past the end of the movie, then than blank area at the end will also be included in the export.

If you want to export the whole timeline do not use the Export selected option.

. . . . Yet when I Export it, the videos aren't aligned as shown when I play it in preview mode and it runs a total of 3:52. . . . .

What do you mean by 'aren't aligned' ? The video order will be exactly the same as it is on the timeline.

Which export preset are you using and did you make any changes to it?

Can you post a screenshot of the timeline, expand/zoom in so the whole timeline just fills the full width available.

John EB
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Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/17/2020, 9:50 AM

Hi John. Thank you for your response.

I tried Export Selected Range after the normal Export wasn't working. I was hoping if I selected the entire range and selected Export Selected Range it would work but did not.

I currently select "File", "Export Movie", then "Video as MPEG-4". I am wanting to create a movie I can post on Facebook. Maybe MPEG-4 was not the best option. I have attached the picture you requested.

 

johnebaker wrote on 12/17/2020, 1:18 PM

@Phil-Lowder

Hi

Thanks for the image this is a somewhat unusual layout of objects on the timeline, assuming there are no video clips on tracks 8 or higher:

  • track 3 & 4 video

    As they are in the image, if track 4 was not muted, track 4 video would start playing before track 3 video has ended - objects on lower tracks (higher track numbers) cover objects on tracks above.
     
  • track 4 & 5 video

    The track is muted so once track 3 video clip has finished there is a large gap of about 35 secs - before the clip on 5 starts

    If the track was not muted then there would be a shorter gap (~ 5 secs).
     

Is this what you meant by the objects not appearing at the correct time?

Did you remove the audio from the video clips?

The 2 video objects on track 4 look as though they have been displaced to the left.

If all the video clips are meant to play one after the other and there is nothing on track 1 - move them all on to track 1 (2 if there is something on track 1) and butt them up to each other as shown in the example image below .

John EB

 

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Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/17/2020, 2:58 PM

John - tracks 3 and 4 just happened to be unlocked when I took the pic. They were locked when I did my last test and is still an issue. I moved all the video segments to track 1 as you suggested and left the music in track 2.

Nothing is in the other tracks below nor to the right where it's not visible.

I did stretch some of the videos to keep them playing longer to fit the music better but all is shown in the picture.

I am still getting the 3:13 video to run out to 3:52 when exported.

I would love to discuss this on the phone with you tomorrow if you have time and be willing to, you can email me a number and a good time to call.

Thanks! Phil

terrypin wrote on 12/17/2020, 4:18 PM

Hi Phil,


Are you now exporting the whole timeline as John suggested?

What is the unwanted extra 38 mins in the MP4; just a black screen?

What happens to the export if you unlock everything before the export?

Did you at any time open up a larger number of tracks, so that there might somehow be content in one?

It might offer a clue if you use the free MediaInfo tool on the MP4, export the report in text form, and paste it in your reply.

BTW, in case you were not aware, we are all just users here, not Magix staff.

Terry

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/17/2020, 5:03 PM

Hi Terry,

Thank you for your response.

I am choosing file Export Export Movie not Export Selected Range. But both are giving me the same results.

The last 38 seconds show some of the videos then goes black. I'm new to all this but if I play it in the preview window mode, the videos line up with the music perfectly as I wanted and match the Timeline. Yet when I export it the videos don't start and end in relation to the music like it does in the preview window.

I unlocked all the tracks, ran the export and still got the same results.

I haven't opened up any more tracks but if I did would not something be showing up?

All help greatly appreciated!

Phil

AAProds wrote on 12/17/2020, 11:35 PM

@Phil-Lowder

Phil, at 2:50sec until 3min:3sec, you have a blank section on track 1 (after the Jesus 20195 video). If you export your movie as-is, you'll get a blank video section there with only audio playing. Otherwise, your timeline looks OK for an export.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

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Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/17/2020, 11:40 PM

I’m ok with the blank spot. The issue is the movie is 3:13 in length but is 3:52 after being exported.

terrypin wrote on 12/18/2020, 2:13 AM

@Phil-Lowder, @AAProds, @johnebaker

Phil,

As suggested in my last post I think it might help if you showed us a MediaInfo report on
1. A source file (or multiple if they vary).
2. The over-long exported file.

 

 

Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)

johnebaker wrote on 12/18/2020, 3:39 AM

@Phil-Lowder, @terrypin

Hi

As far as the length goes, the only cause I know of that causes the over run is a stray object object on a lower track - check by positioning the cursor at 3:51 then zoom in on the timeline down to nearly frame level and scroll up/down through all the tracks.

Terry - the video is over running by 39 seconds

For the order of the videos, I have seen this occur and is usually due to the source video issue. Do note that the the longest out of sync time possible is 1 frame - ie at 25 fps 1/25 sec, however if the source video is variable frame rate then this can be out by 1/2 sec or more.

John EB

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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AAProds wrote on 12/18/2020, 3:41 AM

@Phil-Lowder

This is odd. For me, MEP (I don't have 2021) has never not exported the range, if that was selected, nor overshot if the Export Range option was not selected, unless there was an object at the end. If you have set a range that has contains a blank area (for example between two objects or at the beginning or end, it will give you a prompt that that is the case.

Could you perhaps try exporting only 60 seconds (or thereabouts) by setting the blue range bracket; left-drag the left end of the range and set the right edge with the right mouse button, then left-drag it to about 60seconds length.

Just confirming, the export sequence is:

File>Export Movie>Video as MPEG 4

Set up the export as you desire and tick the "Export Selected Range Only" box.

See what you get out of that.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

terrypin wrote on 12/18/2020, 3:48 AM

“Terry - the video is over running by 39 seconds“

Thanks, indeed. I think I had a colon problem ;-)

Terry, East Grinstead, UK. PC: i7 6700K, 4.0 GHz, 32GB with Win 10 pro. Used many earlier versions of MEPP, currently mainly MEPP 2016 & 2017 (Using scores of macro scripts to add functionality, tailored to these versions.)

Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/18/2020, 7:52 AM

Hi Guy,

Thanks for the suggestions.

I downloaded the MediaInfo tool and have attached the file below. I had to provide screen shots because the system won't allow .Txt files to be attached. It shows total run time at 3:52 yet my selected range is 3:13.

I expanded the tracks at 3:51 to the frame by frame zoom, scrolled up and down and see nothing in any of the tracks.

I did set the range to 60 seconds, exported the selected range and it did only export 60 seconds. So then I set the range brackets to 3:13 and it exported 3:52.

browj2 wrote on 12/18/2020, 7:59 AM

@Phil-Lowder

Hi Phil,

Looking at your timeline screen shot. You have a gap - nothing on track 1 - near the end. You should have not gaps in video/images from the beginning to the end.

Please learn how to take screen shots - Alt-PrtScn, paste in an image program or Word, save or export to jpg. No need to use a camera.

Did you watch my tutorials on Basic Editing?

John CB

 

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Phil-Lowder wrote on 12/18/2020, 8:18 AM

Hey Guys - this is interesting!!!

I can select "File", "Export To Device", "Windows Media", "User Defined", "Video", "Windows Media".......... and it exports perfectly as a .wmv file.

The video quality isn't as good but it does export the 3:13 and the videos line up perfect with music.

Yet when I select "File", "Export Movie", "Video as MPEG-4" I get a length of 3:52 with the videos out of alignment with the music?????

 

 

 

 

 

CubeAce wrote on 12/18/2020, 8:50 AM

@Phil-Lowder

Hi Phil.

No-one has yet asked for your system specs.

I think it is time perhaps to include them please.

Ray.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 12/18/2020, 11:09 AM

@Phil-Lowder

Hi

Somewhat remiss that we have not asked what the video was recorded with, and a MediaInfo analysis of one of the source clips - post the results from the Text view.

John EB

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Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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