Error trying to use audio interface.

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johnebaker wrote on 6/17/2021, 5:16 AM

@Alan-Bvid

Hi Alan

. . . . I need to show some people how to use some software so i'm doing screen capture with a running audio track at the same time. I need to be able to do them at the same time. . . . I am not trying to connect to 2 programs at once. . . .

To clarify - my apologies for labouring on this point - are the people going to watch the demonstration at a later time/date.

Is the recording going to be edited where necessary, and exported as a video file?

Is this correct, if not when are they going to see the demonstration?

What is the software that you demonstrating?

. . . . I do not want to record the video and then record the audio later, it needs to be at the same time. . . . .

Do you have a suitable recording device/portable studio recorder, that you can record the audio narration while you are screen capturing the with MEP, and then marry up the audio to the video in MEP afterwards?

John EB

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CubeAce wrote on 6/17/2021, 6:27 AM

@Alan-Bvid @johnebaker

Hi Alan.

I have now very closely looked at what you wanted to do, step by step.

I realise I had made some wrong assumptions for which I apologise.

So I opened MEP and did as you did, step by step and realised what you had tried to do, so I did the same but using settings that MEP would accept to try to find out what the end result would be or why you would need this.

I think I have now discovered the most useless (to me) thing that MEP can do.

Please watch the video to see what I mean and then read the rest of my comment after.

It will only record a preloaded project that is loaded within MEP automatically from wherever you first place the playback cursor and record its audio. It is not interactive. You cannot use MEP while the recording is taking place. You can only choose to stop the recording at any point you wish once recording has commenced. The only advantage is the amount of audio formats you can choose.

Is that what you are after doing?

Ray.

 

 

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Alan-Bvid wrote on 6/17/2021, 2:45 PM

@johnebaker

> Is the recording going to be edited where necessary, and exported as a video file?

Yes.

> What is the software that you demonstrating?

Going through an interactive web page and setting up stuff that has dropdowns, things to type in, etc.

> Do you have a suitable recording device/portable studio recorder, that you can record the audio narration while you are screen capturing the with MEP, and then marry up the audio to the video in MEP afterwards?

I have a laptop i could use, but then i'm recording audio on a laptop to export to another computer to then import. It's just a time-wasting step that seems unnecessary if MEP would just work as it should.

@CubeAce

> It will only record a preloaded project that is loaded within MEP automatically from wherever you first place the playback cursor and record its audio. It is not interactive. You cannot use MEP while the recording is taking place. You can only choose to stop the recording at any point you wish once recording has commenced. The only advantage is the amount of audio formats you can choose.
Is that what you are after doing?

No, I simply want to be able to record a screen capture in MEP that is getting the audio that i'm speaking while its doing the screen capture. I suppose one option is to try to not record audio in MEP and do that with external software on the same computer, and then bring it in to MEP after. But that's just extra steps due to MEP not working properly. And i'm not sure if the other software will have a problem with doing that although i'm going to give it a shot.

I can't believe you guys are still hanging in here on this. I did email Magix, they requested a file with all my specs which i sent yesterday. Waiting to hear back.

Thanks!

Alan

 

CubeAce wrote on 6/17/2021, 4:32 PM

@Alan-Bvid

Hi Alan.

Then you must use the screen capture option and not the audio one.

As far as capturing the screen though, anything that appears on the screen would be a second program. A web browser would not use an ASIO driver but how web browsers use audio is really complex and I don't fully understand it myself. In fact I'm still struggling to understand exactly what it is you can't do and why it is not achievable or what exactly you are trying to do.

I do understand striving to get the best quality you can. I have worked with Studer A80 and upward tape machines and Neve analogue compressors and Neumann U87 microphones in the early 70s but my hearing is now well past it's prime although till better than a lot of people of a similar age to myself. It is also not lost on me that the majority of people at the other end of the listening chain can neither tell the difference or care or have the capacity to play it back under similar conditions. Great selling songs are often down more to the performance and resonance from the responding audience to the artist than what gear it was rerecorded on. Anything recorded on half decent gear now will probably sound much better than the master tapes of old that were riddled with lower S/N ratios, cross talk problems from tape heads and enforced recording and playback alterations to the frequency response curves due to the limitations of the devices used to record and play back sound in domestic (and professional) environments.

My interest in this so far is because I would love to find a way to lower audio latency of the mixer in MEP (or any other video editing package) which due to to the odd way video editing packages work and the additional processing strains such things take on computer systems in general means live mixing is virtually impossible on complex projects on systems not built for broadcast. It is often more productive to draw volume curves onto an audio track than to try to adjust a slider live during a mix-down.

That, and being over curious 😆.

Ray.

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Alan-Bvid wrote on 6/22/2021, 2:19 PM

@emmrecs @johnebaker @CubeAce

Thanks for your help with all this! Magix responded and sent me a link to the latest version (20.0.1.8). The problem is gone. I'm not sure what version I had now, but it was from 2020 and this is a 2021 release.

Thanks,

Alan

CubeAce wrote on 6/22/2021, 2:35 PM

@Alan-Bvid

Glad to hear it is sorted Alan.

Magix may not be fast but they can be helpful.

Ray.

 

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