I burned the MEP Iso with the mpms and my external dvd burner (for experimentation) with Imgburn and it did it but with the fancy burn pattern. When it played an hour in the dvd player naturally had difficulty.

For a novice at least I tried.

Tried from the video ts (ext dvd) got to big vob 3 and failed. OK I know I using the mpms rather than binng 5 verbatims but this is getting me down.

@mark-perry

The latest release of Win 10 is 22H2 but I see that 21H1 is "pending download" so not actually installed; you are actually two full build-releases behind, at least. I think, as a first step you should fully update your OS.

As to those "Optional Updates", I understand your reservations about hdd space etc. but amongst those you show are several listed as from Samsung. Is your computer a Samsung model? In my experience it is almost always a very good idea to install any updates offered by computer hardware manufacturers.

Jeff

Internal dvd - HL-DT-ST DVDRAMGUD0N

Laptop Toshiba tecra c50-e

@mark-perry

Have you also checked on your DVD-Writers manufacturer's website that their firmware is completely up to date? Don't depend on Windows Update to notify you of anything like this!

Jeff

By the Website picture that's mine

https://hitachi-lg.com/en/support/firmware_download/?v=7

i thought i might try something different,

seens the ISO was unplayable around the 1h mark and the fact IMGBurn aborted at the 3rd VOB which would equate to 3 x 30 min Vobs (4 hrs/8 vobs) i might restart this from scratch. it's 1 only big video & 1 brief plug for the Hi-Fi dropout of 30 secs at the start of the main movie capture, then do an IMAGE, test it, then re-adjust the chapters (because i find in MEP the "adapting to rate to fit the disc" moves the chapters by a few seconds from the desired spots) and see how that goes.

@mark-perry

Hi

The banding of the disc in the image posted above is not something I have seen occur with a DL disc.

How does the disc colour you posted above compare with other DL discs that do work in your player?

John EB

that was the result of an ISO to DL dvd with IMG Burn using the external DVD burner testing purely to see what happened. i made sure nothing else was happening and noted the speed changes presumably when each file or sector was written.

not in front of me but i know even my DVD Recorder and (i mean) handful of MEP created DVDs don't have the patterning. but as explained above of 4 hours it at 1h 10m it struggled to read that area. also my blank MPMs are as new look so no patterning before their used.

i have since got rid of the project and redone it am currently writing an MEP Image so we'll see how that goes.

@mark-perry

Hi

. . . .  using the external DVD burner . . . . noted the speed changes presumably when each file or sector was written . . .

Which one, according to a previous post you have 2:

1. LiteOn eUA108 - I can find no info on this model, is it the LiteOn eBAU 108?
    
2. LiteOn EB11 - the Blu-Ray Writer which supports DVD DL writing.

The banding suggests that the writer being used may be faulty it looks like the laser head has been rubbing on the disc surface and/or the laser is not focusing correctly, this latter would only be apparent when writing a project that requires both layers.

Speed changes are normally barely audible and depending on the write mode should be a slow continuous ramp from fast to slow then either back up to fast again or fast to slow again. If the speed is ramping up/down over a period of seconds then this is abnormal.

John EB

No 1 the dvd writer . Definitely no scratches to the play surface.

@mark-perry

Mark, I'm going to try one of these. I have a few spare DLs to use. How long is your movie? Was it only one movie?

3h 54m. * i have done a 4h 03m a few years ago and that was fine.

today i tried dvd folder withI MGBurn (write tab, internal dvd) burned fine it but didn't finish the disk as it now has 0 free o used so another one but i'm still getting the hang of it.

at the moment i'm halfway thru creating disc files with MEP, failed halfway creating, ended up with 4.97 size/2h 30m/5 x 1G vobs, try again tomorrow getting late here.

@mark-perry

Mark, my DL DVD burn went through overnight with no issues. I did it all in MMS 2024, using my Pioneer DVD/Bluray burner at 2.4x. It seems to play OK (I didn't watch all of it, just played various sections) on my Bluray player and in VLC Player on my computer.

I'm using Verbatim Datalife+ DVD+R DL disks, made in Singapore, probably 5-10 years old.

@mark-perry

Hi

I can also confirm no issues with MMS 2024 burning 7.9GB on disc project to disk* with my LG DVD/Bluray at 8x, plays OK in both VLC and on my Sony Bluray player.

* Traxdata (Ritek) DVD+R DL 8x speed full face printable about 5 yrs old and stored in a dark cool environment..

I suspect that the LiteOn eUA108 is the issue.

John EB

This afternoon I tried the MEP (MEP 2021) to disc method:

Internal - mpm disc, then LiteOn external Blu writer - verbatim. Both times discs detected and ok with adjust to fut disc procedure all good.

But both times the same results MEP failed precisely same as each other: with 4.97 size/2h 30m/5 x 1G vobs.

So unless it's the program as the ISOs all good but won't export to media meanwhile MEP to disc carks it halfway well before the disc write stage. Maybe I should try reinstall?

after a break + doing unrelated Magix stuff i thought i'd come back and do a Single Layer DVD. i previously done and i don't know by luck it burned.

i threw in the Dual layer project yesterday but the same result occurred on both internal & external drives for the discs pictured i even threw in a Verbatim 5 pack but it spat it out without burning it fortunately so i thought come back it in the future. but now it's happening with single layer dvds. before this i upgraded to MEP 2024.

* the DL duration is 3h55m, SL 1h40m. The discs stopped playing around the 1h10m for both types.

So this happened i thought reset Windows 10 selecting "keep personal files" but it still did the same thing.

I suspect MEP is not the issue but do you reckon a "Remove Everything" reset is going to make a difference. it just makes me ultra fustrated when i look at all 4 disks then doing it again to 5th Single Layer disk that something is just not making sense.

i used CDburnerXP and Cyberlinks dvd creator as had previous success with it and haven't used Imgburm as i haven't used it enough confidently answer your questions. the DVD drives read discs perfectly they seen to do the burn procedure but it's like something techy outside of MEP that's peeing me off and can't figure it out.

in the image i've added to each disc what drive was used.

any opinions

@mark-perry

Hi.

It's a long time sice I played around with any type of optical discs but have you tried burning other files to a DVD or CD such as image files, video files and music, just to see if it is the burner or not?

Ray.

I haven't burned discs with the IMAGE files only the dvd files it created i add a video_ts folder put them in that and (in the past) it works. I do it that way as I haven't any experience burning with ISO's. The internal + both external usb connected burners work fine.

That's Cyberlink at the top which failed halfway thru the burn process, CDburnerXP bottom the same thing with its s message and doesn't matter which drive they produce the same burn failure. Both messages in my opinion are baloney as the discs are fine as I burned them SLand DLs perfectly on my Samsung DVD recorder. I did create a new DL project in MEP24 to disc it prepared the files but when came to the burn procedure it failed within the first minute of the procedure.

@mark-perry

Hi

. . . . . . . . But both times the same results MEP failed precisely same as each other: with 4.97 size/2h 30m/5 x 1G vobs. . . . . 

In addition to @AAProds recap and suspicions, which I agree with, can you also confirm the method/workflow you are using with respect to the following:

When you burn the full dual layer project to ISO file, did you get this break point message and set a break point (Split up) or click Ignore?

• If Split up - did you:
  
  Combine both folders of files produced, or combine the 2 ISO files?
  
  
  
  In either case, how did you resolve the identical VOB, IFO etc filenames from the folder files, or ISO files shown below
  
  
   
• If Ignore:
  
  When you used the burning software to burn the files did the program ask to define a layer break point or give a message saying it had calculated and set a layer break point.

Apologies if this seems like an Inquisition, however there are many potential pitfalls when working with Dual layer DVDs and not burning directly from MEP/MMS.

John EB

The first question, I chose the Ignore option, i even adjusted the size so it wasn't tight on the maximum capicity of the DL just in case. As an Image it was fine i did insert a disc first for the adjustment (with single layer discs you dont need to insert a disc but DLs you need to) then switched back to the Image option to create the files and ISO (like it usually does). Choosing MEP to burn it to DL disc however it created the files but when it started the burn it aborted after say 2 min into the process.

The second question I can't answer as I haven't tried that before.

Anyhow I've removed the Dual layer project for the moment as I I'm trying to sort this new Single Layer DVD problem.

Also note I always do an ISO first check for errors & readjusting chapters, fix up, redo an ISO if all good then that will go to a physical disc usung MEP or another program.

so i redone the Dual Layer project i get this message before i proceed to do an image, note compared to Johns message mine doesn't incudes the Adjust and Split tabs only Ok Ignore Cancel and only includes the top paragraph.

i'm currently doing the Image choosing to 'Ignore' which will take a few hours. then check that and realign the chapters because the rate has to be adjusted by MEPs recommendations to fit the disc (and shifts the desired chapter's out of place) then i'll have to repeat that again so i'm satisfied with the result then i can burn to disc.

@mark-perry

Hi

Thanks for the information.

. . . . doesn't incudes the Adjust and Split tabs only Ok Ignore Cancel . . . .

Different program versions - clicking the OK button will split the project however this is not what you want as the remaining steps would give a 'part 1' and 'part 2' as separate discs.

. . . . As an Image it was fine . . . .

AFAICS your procedure is correct.

MEP direct burning and the 2 other burn programs used balking at the same point, would suggest the issue is:

1. The Windows 10 problem.
2. There is a missing layer break point in the ISO file.
3. The burner(s) not switching to the second layer burn mode, or having a calibration error - you should be getting an error message for the latter indicating this, however it is possible the error messages you have seen are triggered by the calibration failure.

For items 1 and 2, I would suggest you raise a Support ticket.

• Select Movie Studio and scroll down to the bottom of the page
• Select Contact Support
• Send E-mail
• Select Movie Studio and fill in the information you have given us above, include the images as an attachment , and a link to this topic.
• Send the request.

For item 3 , can you get hold of, ie borrow, another burner to test with? The single layer and DL issue may be related if it is a burner issue.

John EB

DL ISO done but I've got check it and do the chapter adjustments and redo the ISO tomorrow. I've only got the 3rd drive the external Blu Ray burner (as mentioned in this post) which is very rarely used for so that's my only optional burner left.