CTRL + SHIFT + D not working "like it used to"...

viitaan wrote on 3/16/2021, 6:02 AM

to cut away sections of a waveform my soundforge used to work like this:

1) I click mouse at my designated starting spot in the waweform,

2) press CTRL+SHIFT+D to enter "set selection"

3) I would paste the end spot in time format, e.g. 00.00.44,642 into the field mark "End"

4) press OK. This would result in the to-be-cut-section of the waveform being painted black

5) and finally I'd modify or delete that section.

nowadays doing the above does nothing. pressing the final OK takes me back to waveform and the cursor is blinking at the spot where it was when I started the operation.

Rig: WIN10, Sound forge 9.0.

 

Any ideas?

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rraud wrote on 3/16/2021, 9:21 AM

Hi @viitaan, are you inquiring about SF Pro 9?
In any case, CTRL+SHIFT+D, works for me in SF Pro 10 and 15. I would assume the same for SF-9 and the others
Check the keyboard shortcuts in "Options> Customize Keyboard" Select the 'Global' or 'Data window' tab and enter "CTRL+SHIFT+D" in the 'Shortcut Keys' field. It should be assigned to "Edit: Set Selection" in both 'Global' or 'Data window'. If it is not, add it to "Edit: Set Selection" command. FYI, if you so desire, you can remove, change or add alternate keyboard shortcuts as well.

viitaan wrote on 3/25/2021, 1:20 PM

I appreciate you taking the time to answer! however, your answer was a little bit off.

I tried to be quite detailed in my description of the issue. I don't quite know how to improve it. let me try.

the issue was not about whether CTRL+SHIFT+D combo works, coz it does. the issue is what happens once I have done CTRL+SHIFT+D. then the dialogue opens and I paste the "ahead in time" point in time in the wave and press OK. that should result in a "darkened" (selected) selection between two timestamps. alas, nothing happens.

you can see below the starting point and ending point. pressing OK should result in a selection but it doesn't.

 

any thoughts?

 

 

viitaan wrote on 3/27/2021, 10:05 AM

I installed soundforge 14 (build 86) and the same problem persists. the selection of the waveform between start and end time stamps does not happen.

rraud wrote on 3/27/2021, 10:49 AM

Set Selection works perfectly for me in Sound Forge Pro 10,11 & 14, 15 on two different PCs. Is the selection pre-set on "Custom"? Take a look at the "Snapping" settings in the "Options" menu, though I am not sure that would affect it. It must be a setting issue,.. or Audio Studio may be different, if that is what you have.

viitaan wrote on 3/27/2021, 11:24 AM

you mean those couple of snapping options in the options pulldown menu? the only one I have ticked atm is "Enable snapping".

also, I went through preferences but couldn't find anything applicable. but I agree, it sounds like a (global) settings issue.

what you mean "audio studio", I don't think I have that?

 

rraud wrote on 3/27/2021, 12:46 PM

I have Sound Forge Pro. Sound Forge Audio Studio' is a low-cost lite edition.

Yes, try disabling "Snapping", or disable all except 'Zero crossing' though it does not think change the (normal) selection behavior for me
If I could duplicate the behavior you experience, I could find the setting. I will look further if your have SF Pro. If AS is what you have, maybe someone can check the Ctrl+Shift+D 'selection' behavior in that version, which may be inherent. ???

viitaan wrote on 4/2/2021, 6:20 AM

sure. the thing is I used it for 10 years perfectly. then I cocked up the setup/settings somehow.

 

I don't think Imma upgrade to pro to see if it works. the crazy part is that a new install of SF doesn't work either.

anyhoo, ty for all the tips!

 

rraud wrote on 4/2/2021, 10:50 AM

To confirm @viitaan, you have the full version Sound Forge 9.0 .. not the LE lite version, which Sony included with a USB turntable as I recall. If you have the full version, I will install it to check it the behavior.

You can download the trial version of Pro-15 and see if that works

viitaan wrote on 4/2/2021, 12:08 PM

mine is lite...

trial version: great idea, I'll do that now!

viitaan wrote on 4/2/2021, 2:54 PM

crazy world: new install of sforge 15 pro. DOES NOT WORK. IDK to laugh or cry.

viitaan wrote on 4/2/2021, 2:57 PM

I go to the desired time point in wav. I copy the timestamp. I click the starting location. then press ctrl+shift+d to enter selection, paste the end point to end and press ok. NOTHING.

how's about this: after pasting, ANYTHING I do (any button I press, or even moving to next field (length) with tab) immediately resets the end point to the SAME TIMESTAMP as the starting point.

rraud wrote on 4/3/2021, 10:07 AM

I checked the full version of SF-9 and the "Edit> Selection> Set" (Ctrl+Shift+D) process functions perfectly.. and in subsequent (SF Pro) upgrades (including Pro 15). Confirm the "selection" parameter is set to "Custom".
You may be expecting a different behavior.

viitaan wrote on 4/3/2021, 11:13 AM

before we wrap this up, can we do one more thing: let's take about 20 steps back. I don't care if ctrl´shift+d works or not. if I have alternative methods, right?

 

what I need to do is to be able to input start moment in time stamp and end moment in time stamp to create a selection and then kill that section. how do I do that?

rraud wrote on 4/3/2021, 12:05 PM

Place the cursor and the start point and click the Ctrl+Shift+D shortcut. in the 'selection' parameter, choose "Cursor to end of sample" Clicking 'OK' should highlight the duration from the original cursor point to the end of the timeline. OTOH, the "Custom" mode would highlight the duration from the cursor to a user entered 'End' or 'Length'

what I need to do is to be able to input start moment in time stamp and end moment in time stamp to create a selection and then kill that section.

After the selection is made (one way or another), choose, "Insert> Region", (keyboard R .. or two Markers "M") at the start and end points. Double-clicking in the marker/region space will highlight the duration afterwards for deletion .. or whatever.

> FYI, a "time stamp" is typically a digital SMPTE time code start point in lieu of a longitudinal track (LTC) or video Vertical Interval Timecode (VITC).

viitaan wrote on 4/20/2021, 8:58 AM

got it: time stamp was a wrong term. I meant "a point in time inside a waveform".

re your tips: I am able to choose "Cursor to end of sample" and then the selection works just fine. I end up with a selection to the end of wave. however, that's not what I'd need. I'd need a selection within the waveform. if I choose "custom" and then alter the end point, select OK, nothing happens.

this is still truly a mystery to me.

 

 

rraud wrote on 4/20/2021, 9:59 AM

this is still truly a mystery to me.

Me as well @viitaan, and I cannot duplicate the behavior on multiple versions of SF Pro. An AS-14 bug?
I do not know if Magix tech support can help in this case, but you can submit a request.

A assumed you already tried disabling 'Snapping'
Try resetting SF-14 to the default settings and clear the cache. "Ctrl+ Shift+ Launch SF" or... uninstall > reinstall

If this occurs on two different versions of SF, a setting must be wrong, or something to do with the PC, or an AS-14 bug?, Maybe someone who has AS-14 can try to duplicate the behavior .