Connection of DV Camera through external harddrive

katrinknits wrote on 11/11/2011, 9:53 AM

How can I connect the DV Camera to my external hard drive (La Cie, formatted to PC-use)? The DV Camera has a fire wire cable and usually I would connect it to the external harddrive, which I then connect via USB to the PC.
Somehow, Magix Edit PRO MX Plus can´t detect the device that way. Any thoughts?

Thank you, Katrin

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asoeli wrote on 11/11/2011, 10:52 AM

Your DV-camera must be connected with Firewire-cable to your PC, and the LaCie with USB to the PC. Clic "Y" (Program settings) in MEP, and under Path settings, define a folder on the ext. drive and transfer the video with the PC.

The MX Plus should now detect the camera. In some cases, Win7 gives problems with Firewire.

Regards A.

katrinknits wrote on 11/11/2011, 1:07 PM

Thank you! So I can´t daisy chain the camera - lacie - pc? This is how I captured footage on a Mac before. I might have to get a usb-firewire adapter then to connect the camera via fire wire directly to the pc.

asoeli wrote on 11/11/2011, 3:45 PM

As far as I know, there is no usb-firewire adapter. If there is no FW contact, you need a FW-card installed on your PC. Or a FW card in the slot on a laptop.

Comments to johnebaker:

The last years I always have used external USB HD for editing, and I have never discovered any problems with that (SD and HDV-files)

johnebaker wrote on 11/11/2011, 4:36 PM

Hi

Your PC would not be able to detect the camera, AFAIK none of the Lacie ext HDD have Firewire to USB converters in them.

Firewire - USB converters are available, however I suspect they probably would not let the PC see the daisy chained device.

As Firewire devices can be daisy chained I think you must have the MAC connected by firewire to the HDD and I think you would be better installing a firewire card in the PC, This would also give you a higher data transfer rate if you do your video editing using the ext hard drive.  

I personally would not recommend using an external hard drive for editing.  The data transfer rates are slower with USB then firewire or a second internal PATA/SATA hard drive. 

John

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johnebaker wrote on 11/12/2011, 6:04 AM

Hi

It is not advisable to daisy chain Firewire/USB through the Lacie as you will suffer data transfer rate problems.  

USB is inherently slower than Firewire, each USB hub has a potential of 480Mb/s (you never achieve this in reality)  BUT this is shared between all devices connected to that hub.

Firewire is a constant speed rate per device and is only shared when you daisy chain devices and you read/write data from more than one at the same time.

It is better to connect the camera directly to the computer by Firewire, this way you will have the maximum transfer rate possible for the computer/camera combination and will reduce the potential for dropped frames.

Similarly you may still have data transfer rate problems writing to the Lacie via USB as the video is captured.  Better to capture by Firewire to the internal hard drive (if you have plenty of free space) and then copy to the external hard drive.

John

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.